>> palin donna saturday. -- or they went on a saturday. >> there were like 30 people there. that is good because there were a lot of questions and to this online thank is great, but i think the guards that were there learned a lot. for me, no problems with that. just to save some money, it is a small venue. unless, of course, something really did happen. for me, i would like to not let anything happen at the beginning. we should always be more proactive. if they went to the training that they were required to, i don't have a problem with making it an option like they would propose. >> just to clarify, we are going to leave it off for now. and you're going to come back here and condition you to have had guns. you understand that? >> there have been incidents -- the only reason you're not aware of them is because it is not a licensed venue. my approach to this was with that in mind. i understand your approach is a little different, but i have an agreement to what you are proposing. >> let's see if anybody from the public would like to comment on this application. can we get a