sarah: palmer luckey for a while was the face of oculus.conic photo of him on the cover of "time" magazine jumping into space, that was widely ridiculed. he has been on the 30 under 30 list. he has become the wunderkind who at 19 years old built this in his garage, or at least that is the story they told in the early days of oculus. since then, the company has been distancing itself from him. he really was not that involved in the day-to-day at oculus. and he had these other interest, as you mentioned, the anti-hillary memes. and he was testifying in january in this lawsuit. and facebook is not saying why he left, but certainly there is a lot of controversy around his tenure. cory: there was this anti-hillary clinton meme. talk to me about that. sarah: he was funding a group that would create these little -- cory: fake news? i'm serious, was it fake news? sarah: yeah. i mean, some might call it that. it was memes that framed hillary as the criminal version of her. sort of the alt-right version of what hillary -- and palmer apologized in a p