our next panelist is chris, venture partner at palton group. >> i spend most of my time teaching at the naval academy. i, like the other panelists, are grateful you established this venue for what i think is important dialogue. i would like to make four quick point, then get to question and answer. first and foremost, i absolutely agree with the premise which that the framers of the constitution did not intend for security and privacy to be in mort al combat and we try to figure out how do we achieve both. it may very well be we cannot trade one for the other. i think that's right. but we have to work harder to achieve both. i think technology and practice from the private sector can be helpful there. two, i agree that government is different. not simply in the powers, toops it might bring to bear on a citizenry or others. and therefore, therefore should be con trained. but the government alone has the requirement to essentially meet standard of the first, fourth and tenth amendments within the constitution and from my nsa experience, the most significant of those which essentially says

our next panelist is chris, venture partner at palton group. former deputy of the nsa. >> thank you. i spend most of my time teaching at the naval academy. in cyber operations department. first, i, like the other panelists, are grateful for you establishing this venue for what i think is important dialogue. i would like to make four quick point, then get to question and answer. first and foremost, i absolutely agree with the premise which that the framers of the constitution did not intend for security and privacy to be in mortal combat and we are, therefore, trying to figure out how to achieve both. it may very well be we cannot trade one for the other. i think that's right. but we have to work harder to achieve both. i think technology and practice from the private sector can be helpful there. two, i agree that government is different. not simply in the powers or tools it might bring to bear on its citizenry and others, and there are, should be constrained. but the government alone has the requirement to essentially meet standard of the first