pam valvano said that she believes that all four coaches followed jim have all coach in his shadow.very year, we see the espy speech that jim gave in every year we see him running around the court in albuquerque and he still young. it's very hard to get out of that shadow because he was such a unique personality. there was never anybody like valvano. dean smith's wife said he became the room because he was so smart and so funny. jim and dean were good friends. when jim was invited in 1993 before he died to throw out a first pitch at yankee stadium, he had always wanted to do that, he was too sick to travel. steinbrenner said if you can't make it since someone in your place. and so, he had called dean smith and asked him to go. dean was a yankee fan. dean hated to be in public. you heard him talk, i love coaching, i love the practice. in their home were all sorts of pictures with dean with kids and coaches. there is only one picture of him alone, throwing out that first pitch. charlie: it is an amazing story. back to where we are this year. we are on the eve of the march madness. wha

but pam valvano said something that was fascinating. that she believed that all four coaches who volumed jim have all coached in his shadow, even mark gottfried today because every year we see the speech that jim gave eight weeks before he died. and every year we see him running around that court in albuquerque and is he still jowng and still jim valvano am it is hard to get out of that shadow because he was such a unique personality the. there was never anybody line him, he said jim didn't take over the room, he became the room because he was so spart and so funny. one interesting thing i learned from his wife is that jim and dean were good friends. when jim was invited in 1993 six weeks before he died to throw out a first pitch at yankee stadium by george stein brenner because stein brenner knew he was a yankee fan and had always wanted to do that, he was too sick to travel at that point. and stein brenner said if you can't make it, send someone in your place and we'll say you are representing jim valvano am so he had called dean smit

did get some things out of those interviews i was able to use in this book and dean's wife and pam valvanojames white, works for nearly helpful because i could not talk to dean or jim. >> what was the impact of these three guys in the 1980's? >> dean smith was an icon by the time just dusky desk by the time -- by the timeno shish sdn valvano came along. mike tells a great story about recording a great story about recording it getting california named mike akers and realizing it was not going well. he finally turned to his mom who had not said anything and said mrs. akers, is there anything at all you want to know about our academics at duke? she said, no, i don't need to ask questions because the only thing is important that mike go to somewhere where he's close to god. he went to oral roberts. that's what they were dealing with when they first got down there. dean won the national title in 1982 and then valvano won the title in 1983. >> they were not supposed to win. >> they barely got in the tournament. if they had not won the acc tournament, they went to the nit and jim might've gotten

but pam valvano said that she believes that all four coaches who followed jim have all coach in his shadowy year, we see the espy speech that jim gave eight weeks before he died. every year we see him running around the court in albuquerque and he is still young. anti-is still jim valvano. and and he was young. it's very hard to get out of that shadow because he was such a unique personality. there was never anybody like him. he was so smart and so funny. one thing i learned was that jim and and dean were good friends. died, he wasore he too sick to travel. the sb award was the last time he traveled. they said send somebody in your place and we will say you are representing jim valvano. he called it dean. but dean hated to talk in public. they'll he said if he could have been deemed to the practice court and never done anything else, he would have done that. me in his home are all sorts of pictures of him with friends and coaches. only one picture of him alone and it is him throwing out that pitch. charlie: it is an amazing story. where on the eve of march madness. can anybody beat kentuck