my name is pamela fisher, i am the member -- also a member of the national alliance of mental illness. the issues cannot be separated. i think if you vote to purchase the taser is, you are undercuttg the message that they need to learn de-escalation techniques. he will not take the time to slow things down and verbally de-fg8hoescalate the situation. i urge you not to decide this issue in a positive way tonight. >> hello, commissioners and chief of police. in the re-enactment that you did, you could have used staff that distracts de person with a knife. it is a lot cheaper. it is an air horn compared to teatasters -- tasers. >> i am speaking on behalf of the national lawyers guild where we would urge you to vote down we would urge you to vote down this resolution to bring in