. >> we are joined on a live line by pamela paul who is a distinguished writer and published a book called "foreign affied." also the author of "start matrimony." >> senator brown held hearings on the effect. pornography on the family and i was there to talk about the impact porn had on relationships, marriages and children. >> the subcommittee held an entire hearing on the subject of pornography and its availability and volume. can you speak to that? >> sure. it used to be even just 10 or 15 years ago in order to have access to porn you have to go down to seedy side of town and go to adult theater or go to a news stand and buy a magazine and risk bumping in to your boss, wife. now that is available on the internet, satellite television, cell phones. ipod. no longer any barriers to entry. >> children seeking it out. >> children are looking at porn as long as toddlers. they tracked usage among young children of pornography. the average age is about 8 or 2 years old. >> was it the position of the subcommittee of the judiciary which includes brownback and specker and lindsay graham and teddy