>> joining us is pamela paul, the editor of the new york times book review. out with her latest book,. >> this is my book of books. you're right to use that pronoun to treat him like a person. i kind of do. he has been a companion i've cap since i was 17 and this one journal i've written down the title of every book i've read. >> and what kind of condition of is bob and? >> is not in good shape. i keep getting us to bring them along but it's a really old-fashioned, not a fancy journal. i bought it a corner stationery store. i spilled coffee on them so i feel like he is rotting from within and the bindings are starting to fray. i believe it was a bit of resentment on his part. >> guest: do you still recorded? >> guest: absolutely.

if you like to see that go to the website, book to be.org and type in pamela paul. you can watch the entire clip. >> every month, book to bnc spent two features an in-depth conversation with a nonfiction author about their writing career. join us on september 3 when our guest is eric the task is. his latest book is, if you can keep it. october 1, author new york times columnist, maureen dowd will discuss her books, bush world, are men necessar necessary, mics will talk about his books including his latest, the undoing project. he is written the big short, and the new, new thing. join us for in-depth, at noon eastern. >> mrs. helen barrett is here tonight in celebration of her book. she is the university distinguished professor of psychology at northeastern university. with appointments at harvard medical student school massachusetts general hospital in psychiatry and radiology. she received a national institute of health director's pioneer work for her research on emotion in the brain. she's elected member of the royal society of canada. here's a sampling of the pra

>> pamela brown with the reporting. paul begala, alice stewart and gloria brown marshall. gloria, just from a legal standpoint, the formation of a grand jury, it allows them to do subpoenas. but it doesn't necessarily mean that they know there is wrongdoing. >> they are trying to find out if there's been wrongdoing. i mean, there are millions of dollars of resources at hand. so it's not as though they don't believe that there is anything going on here but they have to get to the actual evidence. that means they have a chance to call witnesses to subpoena documents and to make sure that people are testifying and when they're testifying, they are not testifying with the lawyers in the room. they can go out in the hallway, talk to a lawyer and come back in but the lawyer is not in the room. it's not the testimony. it's whether or not they lie under oath. this is how people have gotten trapped before. it's perjury. it's obstruction of justice, intimidation of witnesses. all the things that the special counsel has authority to investigate. >> alice, as a supporter of the presid

paul manafort. the fi >>> happening now the next step in the june debacle of the jersey shore. pamela osborne is live to explain what's happening for us, pam. >> reporter: the army corp. of engineers is prepared to discuss the project and its design. what they are discussing is a remain straining order. you may remember the large ponds of standing walter began popping up on the beaches. they say the state mandated construction caused drainage issues. as a result a judge said the project contractor and city leaders to come up with a plan. an agreement was reached. residents and business owners are eager to tell a judge what kind of trouble the projelkt has caused them. whether the judge will take the opinions into account is yet to be known. about 50 people made the trip here this morning to listen and hopefully contribute their thoughts on the problem. we'll be coming back here. reporting live. i'm pamela osborne, nbc 10 news. >>> a man shot three times died at temple university hospital. it happened near garnet and york streets. police say the victim was standing on a curb when someo

. >> so pamela, for another piece now it's not just about the trump organization. it's about associates like paulrt. >> so we've learned, chris, what peeked investigators interest last july when it started. we learned they became more suspicious when they turned up intercepted communications that u.s. intelligence agencies collected among suspected russian operatives that were discussing their efforts. to coordinate information that could damage hillary clinton's election prospects and these u.s. officials say that these operatives you suspected operatives relaid what they claimed were the conversations they were having with manafort encouraging help from the russians. they could have been exaggerating, even lying. and he's denied he colluded with russians. that is where this began a year ago. now investigators, as this investigation enters its second year are focussed on whether he was involved with money laundering, in his business dealings with the pro russia party in ukrain. that gives you a sense of how this investigation has expanded sflp pamela's raising aing good point there. it's not abo

pamela, for another piece now. it is not just about the trump organization, it is about associates like former campaign chairman paulanafort. what do we know on that front? >> that's right. so we have learned, chris, what sort of peaked investigators interest was they became more suspicious when they turned up things that were among them. to coordinate information that could taj hillary clinton's election process. these u.s. officials who our team spoke with say that these operatives, these suspected operatives relayed what they claimed were the conversations they were having with manafort, encouraging help from the russians. of course, it is important to point out here the russians could have been exaggerating, even lying, and manafort's spokesperson has denied his colluded with russians. to take a step back here, chris, that is where it began a year ago. now investigators as this investigation enters its second year are focused on whether he was involved in money launlderrilaunldering or tax violations with his pro parties in ukraine. that gives you a sense of how it has expanded with this one person. >> shimon, p

pamela, thank you very much. you are going to be back with us because she also has a lot of breaking news here on paul manafort, developments on the collusion front and the financial crimes investigation. first, though, i want to talk about this grand jury significant development. michael zeldon, richard painter, gloria borger and chris cillizza. micha michael, let me start with you. you know the legal side of it and of course you know robert mueller himself. he is now using a grand jury in the russia investigation. what does this tell you about mueller's probe? >> that it's serious and focussed on the question of whether or not there is probable cause to believe that any one subject to the grand jury's jurisdiction has committed a federal crime. the grand jury exists for really one purpose, to indict people or to not indict people. and mueller is proceeding both with the receipt of documentary evidence and oral testimony to determine that singular question, did anybody commit a federal crime and if so for what will they be indicted. >> let me do a follow up here because obviously if mueller -- if he didn't think that anyth

pamela harris, of kirsten gillibrand, cory booker, seth moulton. they don't showcase their talent as well as the republicans five or ten years ago with the paul ryans and the marco rubios. so i think optics matter and in the long run hope they can develop a candidate who can connect to people the way the successful ones have done in the past. >> the optics are critical, al is absolutely right, and i think part of the optical problem the democrats have, when you listen to people when you're walking around, is the democratic party, the party they belong to and vote for barack obama maybe twice and their parents' party for years and years a lot of the national democrats, they feel, pay more attention to silicon valley and peel a lot of the republicans, especially donald trump in his fraudulent way that he did, artfully but fraudulently during the campaign, is he managed to, without saying it, identify with a huge, huge percentage of people in this country who suffered grievous losses in 2008 and 2009. they lost jobs, they lost income, they lost retirement savings, they lost their homes, imany of them, and a lot of them also put their sons and daughter

paul manafort. an update on that meeting that manafort, jared kushner and donald trump, jr. had at trump tower after they were promised dirt on hillary clinton. pamelawn joins us now. the latest on donald trump, jr., and the many questions about his meeting. >> reporter: right. we have learned today that donald trump, jr., president trump's oldest son, has agreed to sit down for a transcribed interview with the senate judiciary committee, similar to what trump's son-in-law, jared kushner, did just recently. we don't know the exact date, but said he is expected to meet with people on capitol hill, the staff of the senate judiciary, sometime next month. investigators want to learn more about his attendance at that 2016 meeting at trump tower where he was promised dirt on the clinton campaign. and they want to know why his initial statement saying it was only focused on adoption didn't include the fact that he was promised derogatory information on clinton. as you recall, he tweeted out the e-mail exchange that led to that meeting. but it is noteworthy that the president's son has been caught up on the russia investigation on capitol hill. >> and the s

pamela brown, stick around. we have a lot to talk about. let's bring in your colleagues on the story. also on the phone we have jeffrey toobin. let's talk about paul manafort, why were investigators interested in him initially and how significant might that be for the investigation? >> one of the things that happened, jake, was that the investigators got ahold of intercepts, this is communications between russia and suspected russian operatives talking about what they said were interactions with paul manafort. they said that he was interested and encouraging their cooperation providing some information on hillary clinton, dirt on hillary clinton that could help with the campaign. so, what we don't know is whether or not those russian operatives and suspected russian operatives were telling the truth, exaggerating, making it up, and certainly one of the problems for investigators is trying to piece all of that together without the benefit of knowing whether or not these people, again, these are people overseas, whether they were actually telling the truth. obviously manafort's problems go beyond that however. he has some serious financial issues go

pamela brown is "outfront" with that. you have new reporting about manafort and the state of the investigation. >> reporter: that's right. in fact, we've learned, erin, that paul manafort's son-in-law jeffrey yohai met with material investigators just in recent months. we've learned from one of the sources that he actually turned over documents and provided information to federal investigators in new york. and we're also told that these investigators were seeking cooperation related to the investigation into paul manafort. including with possible tax violations, possible money laundering with his business dealings in the ukraine with pro russia parties. now, it's unclear if any of the information yohai is provided is useful for that case, but all that information has now been passed over to robert mueller. of course, who is overseeing the special counsel probe. it's important to point out here that mueller has not asked for documents or has even interviewed paul manafort. as you know, as we've reported, fbi hagts executed a search warrant on his home in late july looking for tax records, financial documents, but they haven't actually reached out to mueller him