extending us territory and floats the idea of military action for control of greenland and the panama canal authority

well, the ceo of the panama canal authority is denying president-elect donald trump's claim that chinais now controlling the panama canal, a vital trade route, telling the wall street journal the accusations that china is running the canal is unfounded. china has no involvement whatsoever in our operation. trump has been calling for the u.s. to take control of the panama canal and greenland for national security reasons he said. he refused to rule out taking both territories by military force. denmark's foreign minister said greenland could become independent if it's what residents want but it's unlikely to become a u.s. state. u.s. secretary of state antony blinken pushed back on trump's calls to acquire greenland. watch this. >> the idea expressed about greenland is obviously not a good one, but maybe more important it's obviously one that's not going to happen. so we probably shouldn't waste a lot of time talking about it. maria: joining me now is retired two star marine corpses general and punero group ceo. he's the author of if confirmed, arnold punero. great to see you. thank you

the panama canal authority is in charge of setting those rates. ssings, canal revenue hit $3.38 billion and has gone up every year since 2017. brian? >> every year since 2017. where do we go? we've got three choices, kelly. where are you headed? >> let's go back to canada for a second because i don't think anyone is talking about purchasing it outright like greenland, but he think this comes down to natural resources? >> that could be part of it. i think a lot is exorbitant influence, justin trudeau and the outgoing government as well. it is more about tariffs than the land. although we are hearing about it becoming the 51st state. the trump team reportedly told the canadian government according to canadian sources that they are not interested in putting tariffs on canada and not interested in purchasing canada either but they want something from them, so that is where we are seeing a divide. in terms of how you respond to that, justin trudeau has come out of it forcefully and i think his quote was there is not a snowball's chance in hell that they

what you have to keep in mind here is that there is an advisory board that the panama canal authority the case for toll increases. and the chairman of that advisory committee is a retired u.s. admiral. so the advisory board gave the canal the green light to go ahead and do this, so there's really to grounds for trump, you know, making this attack. paul: what about the two ports that have concessions that are run by a hong kong-based trading company? could that be the source of his idea that can china runs it? >> i don't think so. i think this is about money. i mean, the hong kong companies have been running those ports, there are three other ports that are run by u.s. is and singapore and taiwan. but i think what he's -- what's really under his skin are the -- or the skin of some of his donors are the toll increases. i mean, he's said that panama is asking the u.s. for $3 billion to make enhancements to the canal. you can't find anyone in panama who knows what that's about, but the canal does need a new lake in order to deal with the water uncertainty, and it's going to to cost around

. >> now, we've got a do a quick fact check here because the canal is run by the panama canal authority, although a hong based contractor operates two ports connected to it. that was also the case during trump's first term. meanwhile, the danish prime minister yesterday responded to the president-elect's comments telling a danish tv station, quote, there's a lot of support among the people of greenland that greenland is not for sale and will not be in the future either. also during that press conference trump said he would use economic force to make canada join the united states. >> because canada and the united states, that would really be something. you get rid of that artificially drawn line, and you take a look at what that looks leak, and it would also be much better for national security. we basically protect canada. >> and yet another moment from that news conference, trump also discussed a potential hostage release deal in gaza and brought out his middle east envoy, steve whitcoff to speak to reporters before ultimately intervening himself. >> is that something that's -- if ther

>> the panama canal authority says trump's plan to take back the vital waterway is all wet.greenland officials note their territory is not for sale, and they already host a major u.s. military base. mexico says maybe some of the western u.s. should be called america. mexicana. but trump supporters are plowing on. >> president trump is beginning a negotiation. he's also trying to think long term about the threats to this country and keep us safe. >> still, plenty of other republicans are respectfully and quietly saying they think trump's plan is pretty much

>> the panama canal authority says trump's plan to take back the vital waterway is all wet. greenland officials note their territory is not for sale, and they already host a major u.s. military base. mexico says maybe some of the western u.s. should be called america. mexicana. but trump supporters are plowing on. >> president trump is beginning a negotiation. he's also trying to think long term about the threats to this country and keep us safe. >> still, plenty of other republicans are respectfully and quietly saying they think trump's plan is pretty much now. >> i'm anderson cooper, thanks very much for joining us. i've been reporting for the last several hours from this location in altadena, and we're going to be broadcasting here over the next hour. it's the corner of harriet and glenn. this entire neighborhood has just been. devastated. house after house. this is one of the in this two in this one block area. this is one of the few houses which is still kind of actively burning down to the ground. most of them, many of them have already burned down to the ground. the h

panama canalfor when it comes to the panama canal for example, when it comes to the panama canalfor example, we know that he has complained that the panamanian authoritiesrbitant fees for us ships and has claimed that china is the one really in control of the canal. all of which the authorities in panama have denied. but certainly, donald trump using these comments as perhaps leverage to try and get the united states a better deal, some see that as kind of the motivation behind some of his comments, but certainly donald trump again raising these issues of the us taking control of these territories, evenjoking about territories, even joking about canada territories, evenjoking about canada being a new state, as he tries to project us trinkets he is enters into office. it tries to project us trinkets he is enters into office.— is enters into office. it was uuite a is enters into office. it was quite a long _ is enters into office. it was quite a long press - is enters into office. it was - quite a long press conference. it was a long press conference, his second one really formally since he was elected when that victory in november. and he went through so

reagan rose to prominence in national right- wing politics on demagogue and about the panama canal and right-wing authoritiesrian movements and leaders are all, as a rule, obsessed with conquest and territorial expansion everywhere. you could, for instance, read a single book about the long centuries of constant shed and mayhem between european powers over their territories, or about world war i, or read a single book about world war ii. this is what autocratic leaders and demagogues do. they need external enemies. they need conquest. it was out of all that bloodshed, tens of millions of people, that an international norm evolved, a norm still too often violated, yet important nonetheless, that says you don't just take over other people's land. lidia paul green is an opinion columnist in the new york times and a cohost of the matter of opinion podcast. she recently participated in conversation with some of her more conservative colleagues on trump in crisis mode on the world stage and she joins me now. you also served as a journalist and a bunch of places around the world. first of all, what do you make of a

. >> justice johnson who is a congressman has now introduced a bill that would authorize trump to purchase the panama canalthing that you need to debate on in the floor of the house. there is your opportunity for democrats to shine the light. and say there is the absurdity he has focused on as one of the biggest cities in america is burning. >> and this is an america first movement. ostensibly, this election was about grocery prices. obviously, invading green land and panama is not going to do that. mass deportations will be inflationary. huge extending tax cuts for rich people. it will be inflationary. they offered no plans for dealing with costs. dealing with the things that justified his win in the eyes of the voters so i think it is okay for the democrats to say this is what he promised you. and this is what she doing instead. >> tim miller. thank you for joining me. thank in for both ends of this program. you're the best. we'll be right back. program. you're the best. we'll be right back. . ♪♪ it's a small win toward taking charge of your health. ♪♪ so, this year, you can say... ♪you did it!♪ [♪♪] loo

dusty johnson, a congressman, introduced a bill this morning that would authorize trump to purchase the panama canala joke until it is now something you need to debate on the floor of the house and there is your opportunity, is it not, tim, for democrats to shine a light and say this is the absurdity he's focused on as one of the biggest cities of america is burning. >> sure. i thought this was an america first movement. >> exactly. >> i think this is -- think is the narrative that has to come into place, which is, like, ostensibly this election was about grocery prices, people suffering from inflation. let me tell you, none of the plans donald trump has put forth have done anything to deal with that. obviously invading greenland and panama is not going to do that. mass deportations is going to be inflationary. huge extending tax cuts for rich people is going to be inflationary. they offered no plans for dealing with costs and dealing with the things that stensibly justified his win in the eyes of some of the voters. i think that it is okay for the democrats to sometimes say, hey, look, this is what

panama canal ceo has denied trump's claim that china is in control of the panama canal. thematically, some of the things that trump is talking about here would lead that reorientation that we referenced with my co-author. what i think we are looking at right now is a broader reorientation on foreign policy that is more focused on the western hemisphere. talking about greenland or the panama canal as opposed to some sort of far-flung and distant theater that has more or less monopolize our attention over the last 30 years -- host: are you referring to the middle east? guest: afghanistan, syria, etc. the thing that those places have in common is probably less strategic value to the united states than either greenman or the panama canal. greenland, there is kind of a rich history of america flirting with and courting acquisition of greenland. this dates back to frankly seward's folly, settlement on alaska. at that time we had investigated actually acquiring greenland. fdr during the second world war more or less militarily annexed greenland with the permissions of denmark, who were unable to defend it. so they still have a military base. there's kind of a long history of america thinking about the strate

active with reconciliation discussions and just introducedo a bill authorizing negotiationsr with the government of panama to acquire the canal. welcome, mr. congressman.en first let's deal with thdae heah agenda what is better, one bill or two and why? >> listen, the quarterback ofha sthe football team donald trump has made the play call.y he is saying one bill so we will goingo execute. i honestly, trey i barely care. a few weeks ago i was bipartisan on a 2-bill approach because i wanted a quick one on border but it doesn't matter that much deal.ed we can seal the steel and all right, congressman i have keen eyes for hav an oldn and i was watching c-span durint the houseboat and i saw you. so i will play the role of the senate eveu.n though i'm an x house member. is a were with us, he or us would point out iter took you gettinmarsg involved to marshale troops long enough to reelect mike johnson as speaker and 30 some house republicans didn'k follow trump when he asked foru the debt ceiling to be raised.hs how can the house tax bill on immigration bill with so many factions in the house? >> you are right, we are a a fracture

panama canal to panama, we didn't give it to china. rachel: fox news contributor and heritage foundation senior fellow for china strategy and author of "year marathon," michael pillsbury, joins us now. michael, thanks for joining us on this very interesting topic. first of all, for those who don't understand, can you lay out what trump's security concerns are in greenland? the. >> well, i think the main thing is the basing that could be set up there by other countries. the fact that denmark does not spend enough money on the defense of greenland. we have the space force based there now. we don't want foreign countries to come in and establish bases there. the other thing is the critical minerals. there's, apparently, quite a large number of these critical minerals that are available to be mined in greenland that's not been done yet. this would reduce the leverage of china over us. as you know, rachel, china's already warned us that they're going to cut back and even to zero in some critical minerals to get leverage on us. so that's what president trump's thinking about with greenland. rachel: yeah. and so let's talk about panama, becau

active in reconciliation discussion and just introduced a bill authorizing the negotiation of the government of panama all to reacquire the canal welcome mr. congressman let's deal with the house agenda which is better one, two or why? >> the quarterback of the football team, donald trump has made the play call he wants one bill so we're going to go execute. , i barely can come a few weeks ago is probably a partisan on the tubal approach because i wanted a quick one border. it doesn't matter that much provided we can seal the deal. >> i have keen eyes for an old man. i was watching the c-span during the hospital. i saw you. i gotta play the role of the senator even though i madhouse asked member. if this editor were with us, he or she would point out it took you getting involved to marshal the troops long enough mike johnson as speaker in 30 some house republicans did not follow trump when he asked for the debt ceiling to be raised. how can the house agree on a tax bill and immigration bill with so many fractions within the house. >> you are right, we are a fractured group, gets a little rowdy over there in the house, working t

the panama canal is one of the world's great maritime choke, but the panamanian authorities have handled it responsibly, professionally and in no way treated the united states badly, as even the wall street journal's editorial board recently noted. nor is there any evidence of chinese military influence on the canal or in the canal zone, as trump claims, china is growing its ties to central and latin america economically. but the easiest way to help beijing expand those ties even further would be for washington to make a ham fisted effort to colonize the canal that would lead to nationalist attacks on the u.s. in panama and revive fears of american neo imperialism throughout the continent. greenland is turning into a pivotal place largely because of climate change, which, ironically, trump has called a hoax. the melting of polar ice caps will open up new oceanic shipping routes between europe and north america and russia, and china will actively try to gain influence in these new seaways. it is and should be, american policy to thwart both nations efforts to expand their economic and mil

panama, canal, and greenland. well, he can have desires. but in fact, once he becomes president, again, he will lack the, the authority to, to take any military action. he can certainly have conversations, for example, with denmark, which he did in his 1st term. just see greenland his 1st day or they've insisted it's not you know, but um, but the seas territory here is an act of war and you know, for a president to go to war to initiate military action. he needs a gift already from congress, and it's highly unlikely that that he would get it and trying to run on a platform, isolating the us from foreign conflicts like the ukraine goal. but these come to show a more outwardly aggressive approach to, to foreign policy. is that a contradiction which actually fits full of contradictions? no, absolutely. of, you know, true. but, you know, remember that donald trump says outragious things to draw attention to himself. and he believes that by saying the strangers things and threatening to a tre force, he somehow can have some bargaining leverage and whatever follow on conversations take place, you know, with denmark, you know, and, and with panama,

. >>> republican congressman dusty johnson introduce add bill that would authorize the purchase of the panama canal. we've been having lots of conversations about what's going on between panama and greenland and canada, this may be the first one on the list. the lawmaker said china's interest and presence around the canal is a cause for concern and backed president trump's call to consider repurchasing it. the bill would authorize the president and secretary of state to initiate and conduct negotiations with panama. we're going to talk a lot more about president-elect trump's expansion proposals throughout the day on cnbc. hard to know, though. this is just a -- this would just give permission effectively to go to negotiations not necessarily an amount -- it's not a bag of money saying, go. >> make them an offer they can't refuse. i'll make them an offer -- you've seen that. >> the more you hear about these issues the more you kind of understand, particularly with greenland. i was not familiar with -- >> i would love to buy -- i want to buy greenland. i do. >> 53,000 people live there. >> 53,000 ti

panama canal ceo has denied trump's claim that china is in control of the panama canal. thematically, some of the things that trump is talking about here would lead that reorientation that we referenced with my co-authorat i think we are looking at right now is a broader reorientation on foreign policy that is more focused on the western hemisphere. talking about greenland or the panama canal as opposed to some sort of far-flung and distant theater that has more or less monopolize our attention over the last 30 years -- host: are you referring to the middle east? guest: afghanistan, syria, etc. the thing that those places have in common is probably less strategic value to the united states than either greenman or the panama canal. greenland, there is kind of a rich history of america flirting with and courting acquisition of greenland. this dates back to frankly seward's folly, settlement on alaska. at that time we had investigated actually acquiring greenland. fdr during the second world war more or less militarily annexed greenland with the permissions of denmark, who were unable to defend it. so they still have a military base. there's kind of a long history of america thinking about the strategic

panama canal ceo has denied trump's claim that china is in control of the panama canal. thematically, some of the things that trump is talking about here would lead that reorientation that we referenced with my co-author i think we are looking at right now is a broader reorientation on foreign policy that is more focused on the western hemisphere. talking about greenland or the panama canal as opposed to some sort of far-flung and distant theater that has more or less monopolize our attention over the last 30 years -- host: are you referring to the middle east? guest: afghanistan, syria, etc. the thing that those places have in common is probably less strategic value to the united states than either greenman or the panama canal. greenland, there is kind of a rich history of america flirting with and courting acquisition of greenland. this dates back to frankly seward's folly, settlement on alaska. at that time we had investigated actually acquiring greenland. fdr during the second world war more or less militarily annexed greenland with the permissions of denmark, who were unable to defend it. so they still have a military base. there's kind of a long history of america thinking about the strategic di

also author of the book new cold wars china's rise, russia's invasion and america's struggle to defend the west. david, let's dive right in here. how much of these calls for control of the panama canal? greenland. of course we heard canada again. how much of this is all just classic donald trump performing or posturing? and then how much do you think he actually means? >> well, paul, that's exactly what i was trying to elicit with my questions from me. look, in the first term, we heard about his desire to buy greenland, which is not entirely crazy. harry truman had the same idea in the late 1940s, but the seller wasn't interested in selling. and that's what trump confronted as well. but in the past couple of weeks, we've seen this fairly relentless group of tweets about the panama canal, about greenland, and then what started as a joke about canada, but is now turned more serious. and it's become gradually clear to us that it's different in the second term poll, that in the second term, he is willing to go use the instruments of american power to go force this territorial expansion. now, whether he'll be successful, we don't know. it's pretty complicated. denmark is a nato ally. ima

also author of the book new cold wars china's rise, russia's invasion and america's struggle to defend the west. david, let's dive right in here. how much of these calls for control of the panama canal? greenland, of course. we heard canada again. how much of this is all just classic donald trump performing or posturing? and then how much do you think he actually means? >> well, paul, that's exactly what i was trying to elicit with my questions from me. look, in the first term, we heard about his desire to buy greenland, which is not entirely crazy. harry truman had the same idea in the late 1940s, but the seller wasn't interested in selling. and that's what trump confronted as well. but in the past couple of weeks, we've seen this fairly relentless group of tweets about the panama canal, about greenland, and then what started as a joke about canada, but has now turned more serious. and it's become gradually clear to us that it's different in the second term poll, that in the second term, he is willing to go use the instruments of american power to go force this territorial expansion. now, whether he'll be successful, we don't know. it's pretty complicated. denmark is a nato ally. i

panama canal was built for our military. i'm not going to commit to that now. >> joining us in our fifth seat at the table, josh rogin. he's a washington post global opinions columnist and the author of chaos under heaven trump xi and the battle for the 21st century. we are here once again. josh rogin talking about greenland and panama. um, let me let me just read the prime minister of greenland statement. let me repeat, greenland belongs to the people of greenland, our future and fight for independence is our business. donald trump is basically saying, if i want it, i might take it and i might use u.s. troops to do it. >> right. >> well, i placed most of the blame on this latest iteration of the controversy on david sanger, not on donald trump, because he asked a question that donald trump would obviously answer in the way that he did. >> he said, will you rule out military attack on greenland? no, i'm not going to rule it out. okay? i mean, everybody knows that what donald trump's going to say. >> rule out military force. >> but nobody at this panel, nobody watching today, thinks that donald trump is going to use american troops to invade greenland, because it's a crazy thing to

neutrality and operation of the panama canal, we're reminded that some things maybe aren't quite as they should be there right now. given the chinese control major authorities at the capable, it seemed appropriate to say that there's at least an open question, there's some doubt as to whether the canal remains neutral. would you agree with that assessment? sen. rubio: yes. here's the challenge. number one, i want to be clear about something. the panamanian government are very friend to the united states and very cooperative, and we want that to continue. and i want to best furcate that from the broader issue of the canal. president trump is not inventing this. this is something that's existed now for at least a decade in my service here. i took a trip to panama in 2017. owe that trip to panama in 2017, it was the central issue we discussed about the canal, and that is that chinese companies control port facilities at both ends of the canal. the concern, some military and security officials, including in panama at that point, that that could one day be used as a choke point to impede commerce in a moment of conflict. that's going back to then. earlier before

problem is not the panama canal it's making sure the american dream is brought to life for everyone in this nation. >> from border czar is not ruling out what it is you really delegate authority i have no idea the context to something about november election results. this foolishness part of this in washington d.c. and the american families. congestion pricing is an opportunity pretty it's been few days. discuss feelings on. >> president-elect trump helping one of those addressing this. what are your odds? those who represent all parties. >> the thing that's different about this issue is that republicans burn the house down. our you kidding me? it was obliterated as part is the gop tax in 2017. why was it done next the massive tax breaks down for the american people are 80% of the benefits protected to go to 1%. that is the tax scam. that's part of the effort on a strict partisan vote progress and now my colleagues are not. the individuals fully respond in order to help family and those who are hurt and the list of. >> the sanctions and prior to that the efforts to discuss russia's government. >> going against the bill last congress and the bipartisan cooperation. >> we are w

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at a press conference at mar—a—lago, he refused to rule out military intervention over the panama canal authority said he wants the us to control. he also threatened very high tariffs on denmark if it resists his efforts to acquire greenland. it comes as his son is in greenland for what he is calling a personal daytrip. donald trump calling a personal daytrip. donald trumer is not due to meet any officials in greenland but his father claims it is only a matter of time until it joins the us. our north america editor has more. this is a very deliberate signal of intent, of donald trump is genuine desire to take over greenland. it is no coincidence his son landed today. it may look like he has come for a property viewing before trying to buy the island. he says that is not the case. reporter: do you have a message from your father? my father says hello. he says hello to everyone in greenland. are you interested in buying greenland? greenland is controlled by denmark and their prime minister says it is very much not for sale. its location sitting between the us and russia is why donald trump wants to