that could potentially create a pandemic, and that, dr. joe, says could be a real problem.he is. >> there's three things that we need for a pandemic. first, a new flu virus we don't have immunity to. that's the case here. second, we need a virus that infects humans and causes disease. that's the case here. the third component is we need official sustained human to human spread, and we don't have that yet certainly. >> this is why it's a concern. if you look at the benchmark for all flus, the spanish flu, 50 million people died. the case fatality rate was one in 50 people who got sick died. one in 50. the case faye thatty raid with this is one in five. if this gets out and becomes widely contagious, that's real, real trouble. lori: unsettling. how close, john, are doctors to coming up with a vaccine? reports, right, it could be drug resis tent. where are we? >> racing to try to create a vaccine, working up vaccines, making progress, but the problem is they don't know how effective it will be, and vaccines are months away. to the idea of resistance, h7n9 is resistant to the e