. >> host: and joining us this week on "the communicators" is steve bene, general counsel for pandora media. mr. bene, how did pandora get started? >> guest: well, first, thanks for having me. this is a tremendous honor, to be included on the show. how did pandora get started? back in 2000 our founder, tim westergren, had the idea because he had been a composer for film. and when he went and talked to directors that he was supposed to compose film scores for, they would always tell him they wanted something that sounded like this meets that, or, you know, some kind of sound that they had in mind that they would reference off an existing musician or a band, and he would go back and try to create something like that. and when he decided that he didn't want to be a music, film composer anymore, he instead thought, wow, won't it be interesting if you were able to walk into a record store, and when you knew you had an artist or a band that you liked, but you didn't know a lot of new artists that were breaking or anything like that, if you could walk up to a kiosk in that store and punched in the