also, chc leon panetta -- cia chief leon panetta's angry tirade. caution.ou are about to enter the no spin zone. "the factor" begins right now. [captioning made possible by fox news channel] captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- hi, i am bill o'reilly. the subject of senator ted kennedy, that is the subject of tonight's "talking points memo." he left behind a 46-year legacy in the u.s. senate. ted kennedy was a dominant force but also a very controversial 13 and his legacy breaks down along controversial liberal minds, conservatives, generally speaking, thinking he was misguided and sometimes soars. there are some -- he was misguided and sometimes worse. if you know the bible, it says that personal judgments should be made by god and god alone. none of us has a right to demesne eight public servants -- a public servant -- none of us has a right to demean a public servant. he joined with president bush to get the no child left behind legislation passed. kennedy, of course, was a liberal and proud of it. >> if i have often been cal

panetta handed over his sword. has lost, and these aren't just marginal ter tore qual turf disputes. these are cror interests. number one, he released of documents and twice he lost on that. secondly he opposed the appointment of a prosecutor. a prosecutor has just been appointed and lastly, the interrogation of high-level enemy terrorists has been removed from the c.i.a. it's now in the hands of the f.b.i. and white house. now, what's left? signal intelligence is n.s.a. not f.b.i. human intelligence, not c.i.a. anymore. it's in the f.b.i. and the white house, so it is central intelligence, but it doesn't gather intelligence. all that's left is analyzing intelligence. well, you don't need $30 billion a year for analysis. you can hire the rand corporation who will do it at 1/100th of the cost and save billions that you wasted on the cash for clunkers an purchased every secondhanded car in america. this is a real institutional problem. what has happened is that the obama administration has relegated the c.i.a. to the

leon panetta said that is a good question.e said that especially in congress it threatens to distract the cia from its crucial core missions. later in the peace, -- later in the piece writes that early in the states the obama administration made policy changes that ended controversial practices. it no longer operates black site or employes enhanced interrogation techniques. he writes that it is worth remembering that the cia employment presidential decisions and does not make the. -- does not make them. those conflicts fuel a climate of partisanship that intelligence officers and our country would be better off without. michael as directors to do all i can to build the kind of dialogue and trust with congress essential to our intelligence mission. we wil-- he said that that is hs goal. good morning, i'll pass a, texas. what you make of this piece? caller: well, i do not believe that you can just move on from what has been done in terms of the interrogation. and the mishandling of the iraq war. there needs to be some type of ju

director panetta took -- panetta said this war did certain things. you make a different judgment. can you explain when you think the use of contractors warrants this? program that involved assassination, did not? >> i will use my language precisely here, ok? and as jack pointed out we still hyper ventilate in the association when the word assassination is used. no one is talking about assassinations, ok? >> well, if you don't use the word assassination, if you're using contractors in a program for surveillance and training -- >> is exercising the inherent right of self-defense, how about that? >> but my point is, when do you go to congress, when don't you go to congress, where is the line there? >> this is hard for me to answer, one, because we're talking about it seems a covert action, all right? and number two it's hard for me to answer because if you look, again, just kind of internally at the "times" story and the story in"the post," the timeline for this is 2004 and ended many years before mr. panetta became director, so, frankly i've learned more about what this is in the la

and i think that's probably leon panetta's feeling tonight.et's get on with it. >> woodruff: we are going to get on with it now, with the show, thank you both very much for being with us. david ignatius, jane mayer, thank you >> suarez: in other news today, the justice secretary for scotland defended his decision to release the bomber of pan am flight 103 over lockerbie, scotland. 270 people died in the bombing. abdel baset al-megrahi is dying of prostate cancer, and was freed last week on compassionate grounds. today at an emergency meeting of the scottish parliament, kenny macaskill stood by his decision. >> i was conscious that our deeply held feelings and that many would disagree whatever my decision. however, a decision had to be made. it was a decision based on the law of scotland and the values i believe that we seek to uphold. it was not based on political, diplomatic or economic considerations. >> suarez: in a related development, britain canceled prince andrew's scheduled visit to libya next month. he was to travel to the country in

and now panetta is enraged at the white house. what's happening with will he only panetta?ly disliked because of the way he handles this whole mess earlier in the summer when he said the cia had been misleading and then said the cia hadn't been misleading. but, you know, joe, you mentioned earlier -- you made a very good point which is that this whole airing of the grievances, the -- eric holder's attempt to get an -- excuse me, prosecutor involved in figuring out whether we should prosecute cases. this whole thing is damaging to the cia morale. i think even more serious, the cia didn't want to do this in the first place. interrogation stuff. they did not want to get involved. they knew that times were going to change. they knew political -- politics were going to change on this. and that in five years, ten years from now, america is going to say, what were we doing? >> that's exactly what "the washington post" editorialized about this morning. that they were -- they were scared even early on saying -- we know how this is. we are getting set up for a fall. >> right. they go

is lee on panetta, the c.i.a. director, imtent now? has he lost his batle and now it's all up o holder? >> he mae his case that he thoughthis was the wrong thing to do. it would send a wrong message to c.i.a. eople, tht these thingsere investigated before and it wasn' fair. thehite house basical said to eric hoder, this is your call. you need to cide this. you'rehe attorney general. we can't et involve in making this decisi for you. is your decision. having made the decision n, they made it very cle that it was his and s alone. >> what about all hese documents that we w prts of at east this wek? did they ever did they take very far toward anwering the basic queson of the argument thapeople like dick cheney have been makg which is that ese techniqu, torture, are necessary to elicit the ind of informatio we need to prevent another -- gwen: it did wrd off action. >> there's no qestion. at everyone agrees whathese

let's talk about panetta and cheney. i think dick cheney smells some blood in the water on the national security issue. it's almost as if he is wishing that his country would be attacked again. >> i quote the great philosopher david lee roth the bridge on the song panama. >> run a little bit hot tonight. >> i think we are all running a little hot right now. i think we should all kind of maybe take a week off and ignore each other. let's face facts. in a 24-7 news cycle, all of us who are in that cycle are going to -- we are going to say something. i don't think that panetta thinks cheney wants this country blown up. but if you analyze these things, everybody is going to look like they are inferring something. bill: today for lunch i had two hue brew national hot dogs. ok? >> nice. >> and they were delicious. they were the best. but, i go home, and then the cancer project is telling me they are going to file a lawsuit on behalf of some jersey people saying that hot dogs cause cancer and they have to be labeled like cigare

is lee on panetta, the c.i.a. director, impotent now? has he lost his battle and now it's all up to holder? >> he made his case that he thought this was the wrong thing to do. it would send a wrong message to c.i.a. people, that these things were investigated before and it wasn't fair. the white house basically said to eric holder, this is your call. you need to decide this. you're the attorney general. we can't get involved in making this decision for you. it is your decision. having made the decision now, they made it very clear that it was his and his alone. >> what about all these documents that we saw parts of at least this week? did they ever -- did they take us very far toward answering the basic question of the argument that people like dick cheney have been making which is that these techniques, torture, are necessary to elicit the kind of information we need to prevent another -- gwen: it did ward off action. >> there's no question. that everyone agrees what these documents tell us is that the c.i.a.'s interrogation program gav

i don't think i'd want to be leon panetta now.n: many people believe he shouldn't have been named to the job, has no experience. this could really cut his knees out. we'll see. 18 minutes before the top of the hour. here's what's straight ahead. doctors hesitant to give their prescription pad over to the government. can you blame them? why the president is offending some health care professionals. dave: then, are you prepared for a terrifying disaster like if your plane was hijacked? >> move to the back of the plane! move it! move it! dave: frightening. the crucial tips you need to know to survive worst case scenarios from a hijacking to a home invasion or even a biological attack. the former navy seal is here to tell bus this new show coming up. my mother made the best toffee in the world. it's delicious. so now we've turned her toffee into a business. my goal was to take an idea and make it happen. i'm janet long and i formed my toffee company through legalzoom. i never really thought i would make money doing what i love. robert

there is a new report that cia director leon panetta and eric holder,ç the attorney general,ç are atthe fbi is charged with conducting the is sensitive investigations. someç say thisç means the administration has adopted a pre-9/11 standpoint. joining us now is a writer for "the weekly standard." how did we get to this so early on in the obama administration? >> then-candidate obama said he was going to do this. he said he was going to doçç w enforcement first approach to terror. when you look back, there was an article in "the los angeles times," and it unveidee a global çinitiative, in which a they we going to repackage the u.s. national security posture as relates to terrorism. -- in which they were going to repackage the security posture.# çthey said it would not be law enforcement forests. but then, you had a congressman tell our magazine -- it would not be law enforcement first. ççthey had met with interrogas off from the cia in afghanistan when they said they had been told to read the miranda rights to terrorists. the obama administration pushed çon monday, you had th

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there is a new report that cia director leon panetta and eric holder,ç the attorney general,ç are atragency group. the fbi is charged with conducting the is sensitive investigations. someç say thisç means the administration has adopted a pre-9/11 standpoint. joining us now is a writer for "the weekly standard." how did we get to this so early on in the obama administration? >> then-candidate obama said he was going to do this. he said he was going to doçç w enforcement first approach to terror. when you look back, there was an article in "the los angeles times," and it unveidee a global çinitiative, in which a they we going to repackage the u.s. national security posture as relates to terrorism. -- in which they were going to repackage the security posture.# çthey said it would not be law enforcement forests. but then, you had a congressman tell our magazine -- it would not be law enforcement first. ççthey had met with interrogas off from the cia in afghanistan when they said they had been told to read the miranda rights to terrorists. the obama administration pushed çon mon

panetta all said waterboarding is torture.orture is one of the most serious crimes you can commit. and to just sort of brush it aside and say, hey, we don't want to look back, we want to look forward, you know, i think that was not really an option and certainly mr. holder could have been accused of politicizing the justice department. >> well, does your reporting tell you that in fact this was eric holder's decision alone? or was he doing what the president wanted but the president wanted no fingerprints which is why he keeps saying look forward not back? >> well, if there were communications directly between barack obama and eric holder we don't know about them. and i think there was a general sense at the white house that they didn't want to be caught, you know, interfering in a really blatant way. >> unhappy with this decision and process? >> i think you can't help but think that president obama would prefer to get on with health care and so on without becoming entangled in the history of this torture issue, which is not h

what leon panetta is now doing to show america's spies that he has their backs.gation techniques could put us all in danger. martha: and we continue live coverage from the jfk library in dorchester, mass., where mourners from all over the country have been flocking to remember senator edward kennedy. take a look. to silence headaches... doctors recommend tylenol... more than any other brand... of pain reliever. tylenol rapid release gels... release medicine fast. so you can stop headaches... and feel better fast. have discovered how easy it is to use legalzoom for important legal documents. at legalzoom, we'll help you incorporate your business, file a patent, make a will and more. you can complete our online questions in minutes. then we'll prepare your legal documents and deliver them directly to you. so start your business, protect your family, launch your dreams. at legalzoom.com we put the law on your side. during endless shrimp at red lobster, you can have something decadent... with something spicy. then something crunchy, then something new... like wood-gr

the leon panetta said that it was not true.erch leon panetta did not sell them that the agency had misled people and broken the law, and the founder of blackwater, prince, they were referring to them as trigger happy mercenaries. there were 17 iraqis killed, and they had to change their name. the cia also used contractors. >> please, do not take anything i have said to suggest what the agency routinely does when they have a really hard problem. they go to the yellow pages and look under "solutions are us," and they make a phone call. >> blackwater provided surveillance and some other things. they have other contacts with the cia at that time, but this program, jon, never went operational, and blackwater was not involved with it for several çyearsç pm jon: jennifer grif, thank you. the case of the murder of a naked swimsuit model, her body found in a suitcase and tossed into a dumpster. the suspect was a former reality t b person, and they think they know where he went. -- informerre -- a former reality tv person. show and tel

drector lee on panetta ove detainee interrogations. >> threatening a risoner with electric dll isn't torture, i'm not sur what is. gwen: how ar will the invtigation go? and as fedchairman be beanke wins re-appointment, stocks gaibut deficit projections have slowed. is there asilver lining anywhere? covering te wek, davi broder of "the washington post," karen tulty of "time" magazine, pete wlliams of nbc news, and daviwessel of "the wall street journal." >>elebrating 40 years of journalistic excellence. li from our nation's capitl, this is "washington week with gwen ifill" produced in asciation with natial joural. corporate funding for "washiton week" is provided by -- >> it create half the electricity th fuels our dreams. we have more of it than anyplace on earth. and we're working on cleaer ways to usecoal every day. there's mo information at nma.o. >> cporate funding for "washingt week" is provided by boeg, majo funding for "waington week" is alo proved by the annenberg foundation, t compragse for blic broadcasting -- t corporation for public broadcasting and by coributions to your

panetta briefed the hill, the reaction was "why this program?" which makes it sound like there were other programs. [laughter] >> i get word that there is a covert operation under way to brief the hell -- my first reaction was what could he possibly be talking about? we were very aggressive in briefing the hill during my time there. i will take that much credit for. also, 2008 was a leap year. we will have the olympics and the presidential election. even if you put aside noble motives on my part -- i actually think there were and are at the agency consistently -- to hide the ball from congress on anything during this timeframe would have been suicidal. our threshold for going out there to brief was incredibly low. really. we went out there with things that we did not have to pass on. "go tell the hill." >> so there are not other programs you think will be briefed to congress? >> no, no. i went to congress and briefed some stuff, and i was asked if there was anything else. i said that they knew everything i know. >> when you said "why this program

there's a story that has washington fixated, which is eric holder versus leon panetta and the cia and investigations, then there's the larger story are doing across the country which is the fate of these cia agents, these contractors and grunts in the war on terror who are about to get in the neck. the other story is what al qaeda is doing. they're sitting in a cave laughing somewhere saying america is about to destroy itself and we're going to sit and watch. >> judy, you are to the times and you cover national security. is the press coverage focusing on the national security applications of the cia think it's all about politics was to mark. >> i think it's about both in its legitimately about both because the director of the cia is a very important factor should be in washington. the dissing of him says a great deal about this administration and the president's attitude towards that institution which on one hand he says he needs and respects, and gives a guarantee that no one will follow the law will be prosecuted, and the next day does something like this, which is used especially b

there's a story that has washington fixated, which is eric holder versus leon panetta and the cia andations, then there's the larger story are doing across the country which is the fate of these cia agents, these contractors and grunts in the war on terror who are about to get in the neck. the other story is what al qaeda is doing. they're sitting in a cave laughing somewhere saying america is about to destroy itself and we're going to sit and watch. >> judy, you are to the times and you cover national security. is the press coverage focusing on the national security applications of the cia think it's all about politics was to mark. >> i think it's about both in its legitimately about both because the director of the cia is a very important factor should be in washington. the dissing of him says a great deal about this administration and the president's attitude towards that institution which on one hand he says he needs and respects, and gives a guarantee that no one will follow the law will be prosecuted, and the next day does something like this, which is used especially by the rep

panetta briefed the hill, the reaction was "why this program?" which makes it sound like there were other programs. [laughter] >> i get word that there is a covert operation under way to brief the -- my first reaction was what could he possibly be talking about? we were very aggressive in briefing the hill during my time there. i will take that much credit for. also, 2008 was a leap year. we will have the olympics and the presidential election. even if you put aside noble motives on my part -- i actually think there were and are at the agency consistently -- to hide the ball from congress on anything during this timeframe would have been suicidal. our threshold for going out there to brief was incredibly low. really. we went out there with things that we did not have to pass on. "go tell the hill." >> so there are not other programs you think will be briefed to congress? >> no, no. i went to congress and briefed some stuff, and i was asked if there was anything else. i said that they knew everything i know. >> when you said "why this program --"

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director leon panetta. he says now that his agency will cover the legal costs for agents investigated for alleged interrogation abuses. that's according to a senior intelligence official. panetta's decision comes as attorney general eric holder appoints a special prosecutor to conduct a review of whether federal laws were broken during those interrogations. and there it sits, right there. the shuttle discovery. after an overnight lunch scrubbed yet again. the problem, a malfunction with a fuel valve. it appears a sensor is to blame. engineers round-the-clock trying to fix it so discovery can try again tonight one minute before midnight. fierce flames coming dangerously close to donald trump's exclusive golf club in california. the fire forcing about 1,500 people from their million dollar homes. heavy smoke casting a haze over much of the area. firefighters are battling another major fire, this one in the san gabriel mountains where flames could spread even further into angeles national forest. guys, michael

they are saying that leon panetta never said that to congress. let me read a statement from the cia spokesman. i am told that leon panetta decided to brief congress on the agency came to him and said that they would like the commission to take this program operational and cross the border into pakistan. that is when he said, let's kill the program once and for all. gregg: we have been reporting for months now on the dangers of text messaging and driving. there was recently a study that shows text messaging is it least dangerous if not more than driving drunk. a police department in the united kingdom trying to scare its drivers straight using schock and lots of blood in a new public service announcement. it is stirring up a load of controversy. jonathan hunt with the news now live from the new york city news room. i saw this for the very first time a couple of hours ago this video is shocking. >> it is very disturbing, but that's exactly why police in the region of britain where it is shown think that it will be very defect -- a very effective. >

that program was exposed to congress just last june after cia corrector leon panetta learned outside contractors has been tapped. they have been criticized for its very heavy handed tactics in iraq. although the program was cammed, before missions were carried out the contractor was awarded millions of dollars for weapons and training. >>> powerful storms tore through four mid-western states yesterday toppling trees and downing power lines. there were reports of at least half a dozen suspected tornados as the weather system moved through minnesota, wisconsin, iowa and illinois. the storms shattered windows and in some regions even leveled houses. six people were treated at hospitals in illinois but those injuries do not appear to be life threatening. >>> well, the man arguably most responsible for the invention of television news died yesterday. although veteran producer donahue wit of cbs news will no doubt be remembered for 60 minutes, he was legacy as a true pioneer in the business of television will be so for quite some time to come. >> everybody who works with me is smarter than

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panetta thought it didn't work -- it would not have worked out. he canceled it.rsial for two conflicting reasons. one, they wanted to put contractors into the field originally because it would keep a u.s. government face off the program, but if you put contractors into the field to carry out these missions and they get into trouble, you have a diplomatic disaster on your hands. drew? >> barbara, here's what i don't understand. we had soldiers trained to kill people over there all this time, and supposedly chasing al qaeda. >> exactly right. >> why were they outsourcing this? >> yes. why outsource this if you have hundreds, if not thousands, of special operations forces, army, navy, air force, marines, that are very highly trained and very capable of doing exactly the same thing. it goes back to why would you put this program in place. one reason, take an official u.s. face off of it, because you might be going in to areas like that tribal region of pakistan, where you wouldn't want u.s. military forces at the risk of being caught. but on the other hand, it was a

bill: that's a good point but panetta is a democrat. i don't want it mukasey the former head of the cia says if do you this, holder, no foreign country is going to cooperate with the united states and intel gathering because they don't want to be dragged into any scandal. we are going to lose all intel drying up around the world. you have might be killed because of it, jamie. >> this is not about politics. this is not about party. bill: you are totally ignoring my question. >> you didn't ask a question. you made a statement. bill: you may be killed because of this crazy decision by holder. >> we have federal laws on torcher for a reason. we can't just violate the willy-nilly and if they have been violated, we need to prosecute. bill: you could have prosecuted abraham lincoln for suspending habeas corpus. >> look. they are going to investigate. we will see what they find and you will have me back and we will talk about what they found. bill: i will have you back if you are alive. you may be killed because all of that stuff is going to dr

. >>> news came out that cia leon panetta rushed out to kill al qaeda leaders. "the new york times" reports the cia outsourced parts of the job to blackwater. ♪ [ female announcer ] the eyes have it! give them the attention they deserve. [ female announcer ] with covergirl exact eyelights. amazing mascara that brightens the color of your eyes while it defines lashes. the bright idea? light reflecting metallics and a hint of tint that make eyes four times brighter. turn up the light in your eyes. [ female announcer ] with exact eyelights in four eyelighting shades from easy, breezy beautiful... covergirl. [ female announcer ] add exact eyelights new shadows and liners to brighten your look. >>> news came out that cia leon panetta rushed out to kill al qaeda leaders. "the new york times" reports the cia outsourced parts of the job to blackwater. the right wing mercenary group. according to "the times" that's the reason they called an emergency meeting. now telling "the nation" magazine the house intelligence committee will add blackwater to a probe of its plan. wh

panetta raced to the intelligence committees to tell them about the program as soon as he found out about it and the house intelligence committee has been investigating ever since whether not telling congress about this program overtly keeping it from congress was actually a criminal act. well, we've since learned that what that program was -- it was a hit squad. a it was a targeted killing program aimed at al qaeda all around the globe. now, targeted killing, assassinations, war is one thing, but since the ford administration there has been an executive order in place banning assassinations by the u.s. government. so it's a little bit of a murky question as to whether or not this sort of thing would be legal. if these killings happened in the u.s. or in a country that is an ally of our, what happens if local law enforcement arrests the hit squad? are these guys subject to u.s. law or subject to the laws of the country? who gets to hold them accountable? those are the exact same questions that have plagued the u.s. since the bush/rumsfeld era since this that era we started giving multimil

stopped a program to kill or capture top al qaeda leaders, top al qaeda terrorists, and cia director panetta told lawmakers that you told the cia not to inform congress. is that true? >> as i recall -- and i -- frankly, this is many years ago, but my recollection of it is, and the reporting i've seen, is that the direction was for them not to tell congress until certain lines were passed, until the program became operational. and that it was handled appropriately and other directors of the cia, including people like mike haden, who was leon panetta's immediate predecessor, has talked about it and said it's all a very shaky proposition that was well-handled, that he was not directed not to deal with the congress on this issue, that it's just not true. >> the cia released two other documents this week. khalid shaikh mohammed, preeminent source in al qaeda. while they say that the overall program got absolutely crucial information, they do not conclude whether the enhanced interrogation programs worked. they just are kind of agnostic on the program and then there's what president obama calls th

leon panetta has said he is standing up for officers that it did what his country asked of them. some in the intelligence community feel that they are being made scapegoats for what they did in a time of national crisis. >> after 9/11, and erica's spies went to war. in it -- america's spies went to war. the bush and administration always denied use of torture. >> no american will be allowed to torture and other human being anywhere in the world. >> but the bush administration did tell the cia to use "enhance in terror nation -- enhanced interrogation techniques." , a report found that some cia officers had broken even the bush administration's rules on torture. but every detail was blacked out. this report can now be reissued. take the case of the bombing of the uss cole in 2000. al-qaeda opera, rahim al- nashiri, was arrested in 2002 and interrogated. he was reportedly threatened with an electric drill and a mock execution. both techniques may have been illegal, even under the rules of the bush administration. >> officials should have known it these techniques were illegal. it i

so panetta went ahead and canceled it. it never went into full operational play. john?ssinating top terrorist leaders, why not use the military to do it? why hire an outside contractor? >> reporter: yeah, why outsource the job when you have a united states military that is trained and equipped to do just that? well, the source familiar with the program told us the aim here was to put some distance between the official entities of the u.s. government, that means the u.s. military and the cia, make this an unofficial program with no public face on it, no ties to the u.s. government. this would have been as covert and secret as it gets. if these operatives, if these contractors had been on a mission to kill and had been captured or something had gone wrong, it would have been much easier for there to be no u.s. face on it. john? >> barbara starr for us at the pentagon with the latest. thanks so much. >> and again, just into cnn this morning confirming that voting in afghanistan has been extended by an hour. the afghan election commission is doing its best to accommodate vo

and cia director panetta told lawmakers that you told the cia not to inform congress. is that true. >> as i recall -- and i frankly -- this is many years ago. but my recollection of it is, and the reporting i have seen, is that the direction was for them not to tell congress until certain lines were passed. until the program became operational. and that it was hand appropriately and other directors of the cia including people like mike heyden who was leon panetta's immediate predecessor talked about it and said it is all a, you know, shaky proposition, that it was well hand and that he was not directed not to deal with the congress on this issue, and that it is just not true. >> chris: the cia released two other documents this week, khalid sheikh mohammed preeminent source in al qaeda. >> right. >> chris: detainee reporting pivotal for the war against al qaeda. while they say that the overall program got absolutely crucial information they do not conclude whether the enhanced interrogation programs worked. they just are kind of agnostic on the issue. and, then, there i

ever seen into washington to change the way that they do business and yet they have pple like leon panetta,ho parlayed an enre career as a government servant into a mass of private weah. you ha got people who came from the hedge fund industry's who wereunglers. these are all the prototypes that barack obama condemd and michelle obama for that matter and yet they fully embrace them in their administration and those who had knowledge the hypocrisy there. >> host: you hav me fpom the east coast to colorado springs. how does that affect the way you feel this town? >> guest: i have always had sordid the the logical detachment from the beltway. that is obviously just an outgrowth of my own political views as a conservative but i think it is much easier to do it from the outside to have my ear to the ground in the grassroots, in the mountain was. i feel really liberat out there. and, at the air is literally and figuratively fresher. >> host: mali is joining us very clearly from oakland california, republican line for michelle malkin. >> caller: god bless you dear michelle for putting up with the

yesterday director leon panetta sent a mess toage to his staff. on the da on the daily beast it was written -- nbc news justice correspondent pete williams joins us live. i wonder if you can clarify this sort of shouting match that panetta was having. what exactly they were about, if we know, and were they about the possibility simply of this report being released? >> what we're told is that in forming this new organization that will oversee interrogations in the future, that will be run by the fbi, this high value interrogation group that will be run by the fbi with probably somebody in the intelligence community in the number two place, the white house officials told us yesterday that the cia was fully on board with the notion that the restriction on interrogation in the future was completely satisfactory, that the cia saw no reason, for example, to go beyond the army field manual in terms of what was allowed for interrogation methods. so that was what we were told, david, is that they were fully on board with that. on the release of the ig repo

cia director leon panetta said, this agency made no excuses for behavior, however rare, on the guidelines on terrorism. they also took the cia out of the terrorism business, by creating a new unit that report to the fbi. >>> lawmakers want libyan leader that he is not welcome in new york. he will address the u.n. next month. outrage over the visit intensified last week when libya gave a hero's welcome to the only man convicted in the 1988 pan am bombing. he was released by scotland because he is dying of cancer. >>> a symbol of rebirth has come full-circle at ground zero. it was the last beam standing after the twin towers fell, seen as a saeb of defiance in the face of terror. after more than seven years in storage, the 58-ton beam was taken back to the world trade center site. it will now be a permanent fixture at the 9/11 memorial museum. >>> in florida, rescuers had to cut away part of a pool deck to free a 3-year-old girl. her arm was caught in a suction pool pipe. the suction was so strong, they had to remove the pipe with her arm still in it. he was brought to the hospital, shaken

director leon panetta has issued an oupoken defense of his agents, as he says, snding up for those officers what their country asked of them. and rur is rife of more angry exchanges behind the scenes. some in the inlligence community feel th're being made scapegoats for what they did at a timeof national crisis. here is adam brooks. >> after 9/11,a stued united stat sent itspies to war, and the white use rewrote the rules on interrogaon of terrorist spects. tonit we're learning more about what that meant and how some c.i. ofcers may have broken even the bh administration's new ules. it's all in this repo from 2004 written by thec.i.a.'s own investigator now, we' arning what's under all that blacking ou takehe case of the mbing of the u.s.s. cole in 2000. 17 amecan slors dead. an al qaeda operative s arrested in 20. c.i.a. inteogators, the report wi revealhrtened him with an electri drill. they fireda handgun and threatened execuon. another al qda figure was reportedly told hishildren would be killed if he didn't cooperate. other, that his mother would be sexually assaulted. all this may ha