not the level of panetta. >> here is the deal.hink you are wrong about that panetta is is the icing on the cake that is he yes, i told the president terrorism. mike morrell is going to be the guy weakening it because the political people in the white house tell him to. remember, there is a 9:54 p.m. email. >> you need to go back and read all the president's men because this story -- >> -- hell, i lived through it it. >> no, you need to read the book. because you are not going to imindicate the president of the united states unless you have someone telling him eye to eye, face-to-face it was a terrorist attack. >> that's going to happen. >> panetta is the man -- >> -- the question is though who inside the white house told morrell and that's important question. >> who inside the white house american people. saturday afternoon that her staff is in communication national security people. >> mr. rove, all of that is important but it doesn't rise to the presidency if president obama was told by leon panetta it was a terrorist attack and

panetta is it. and nobody has asked him under oath if he told his boss, the president, the commander and chief, that it was a terror attack. if panetta says that, all hell breaks loose. and you guys haven't done it. so, it's a cheap shot obama to complain about him when you guys haven't brought in the guy that the story wide open. and i tried to get it from president obama but he wouldn't answer it. so now i'm asking you, congressman, to get your butt in gear and get your committee to get panetta in there. is that unreasonable? >> no, it's not unreasonable at all. what we did in the armed services group brought in general ham. that's where these quotes came out. >> that's right. >> just two weeks ago. >> but you didn't follow up to the big guy. >> e, i know. that was a couple weeks ago. this investigation is not done. to me it feels like halftime because this administration has been stone walling us for a long time we have got to hear from for instance i want the public. this is amazing to me. the p

however, panetta has dodged us and refuses to set the record straight. shame on leon panetta.e irs deal. >> douglass shulman, former irs chief, he was cleared into the white house 157 times, more than any of your cabinet members, more than any other irs guy in the history by far. why was douglass showman here 157 tidges, why? >> mr. shulman as the head of the irs is constantly coming because at the time we were trying to set up the healthcare.gov and -- >> -- what does he have to do with that the irs works as part of the overall healthcare team. i do not recall meeting with him in any meetings that are pretty routine meetings. >> you don't recall seeing shulman what some people are saying is that the irs was used at a local level in cincinnati, maybe other places to go out. >> absolutely wrong. >> how do you know that? because we still don't know what happened there. >> folks have again had multiple hearings on this. these kinds of things keep on surfacing in part because you and your tv station will promote them. >> the fbi continues to investigate the irs situation. so it's

panetta is it. nobody asked him under oath if he told his boss, the president, commander in chief it was a terrorist attack. if panetta says that, all hell breaks loose. and you guys haven't done it. so it's cheap shot in obama, all right? to complain about him, when you guys haven't brought in the guy that could break the story wide open. i tried to get it from president obama. he won't answer it. so now, i'm asking you, congressman to get your butt in gear, get your committee to get panetta in there. is that unreasonable? >> no. what we did in armed services group is where these quotes came out. >> right. >> just two weeks ago. >> right. but take it up to the big guy. >> that is a couple weeks ago. this investigation is not done tochlt me, it feels half moovenlt because the investigation had been stone walling it. we've got to hear from, for instance, i want the public. the public never heard from anyone on the ground that night in benghazi. >> it doesn't matter. >> no. no. >> it doesn't matter be

leon panetta has testified at least twice before house committees.ny committees that can claim jurisdiction over this issue. chaffetz' committee that he sits on along with others to the intelligence committee to the foreign affairs committee, everybody wants a piece of the pie and that's part of the problem. >> here's my beef. so we established with president obama that on the libya issue, and i asked him point blank, did secretary of defense leon panetta tell you it was a terrorist attack on the day it happened. simple question because i'm a simple man, as you know. he wouldn't answer the question. the president wouldn't answer it. he was all over the place. all right. now, i'm tired of republicans whining about president obama when they have subpoena power to bring in the man who talked to him on that day, low aun eon pa and ask him did you tell the president of the united states it was a terror attack and panetta under oath would have to answer yes or no. >> i think they need a select committee that not only has subpoena power but prosecute e r pr

[laughter] what did the director of panetta say to you? >> this is a pretty good story. this was the night the chairman rogers formerly assumed the chairmanship of the house intelligence community in january 2011 and i had just been selected as the staff director. leon panetta invited chairman rogers out to dinner in his quiet dining room on -- at langley. i was like enough to get to go along as staffer and i assumed that dinner was a very shrewd way of cia director beginning to build a relationship with someone who had oversight responsibility over the agency. and so as we walked to dinner i expected to go back and have a nice dinner but we were led into leon panetta's office and he had a citizens conference table which was strewn with pictures of the abbottabad compound in pakistan and he had at the table also two of the top spies and analysts on the bin laden case and was able to lay out for chairman rogers. he pulled it piece of paper out of the breast pocket of his jacket and he looked like he had just briefed the white house and scribbled notes. a very detailed upd

shortly after ham said that, secretary panetta came in to you. did he tell you, secretary panetta, it was a terrorist attack? >> you know what he told me was there was an attack on our compound. >> he didn't use the word terror? >> you know, in the heat of the moment, bill, what folks are focused on is what's happening on the ground. do we have eyes on it? how can we make sure our folks are secure. >> i want to get it on the record. did he dell you it was a terror attack? >> i'm answering your question. what he said to me is we had an attack on our compound. >> no terror attack? >> we don't know yet who's doing it. understand by definition, bill, if somebody is attacking our compound, that's an act of terror, which is how i characterized it the day after it happened. the question ends up being, who in fact was attacking us? >> but it's more than that because of susan rice. it's more than that because of susan rice goes out and tells the world that it was a spontaneous demonstration off a videotape, but your commanders and secretary of defense kno

panetta testified he anyhow it was a terrorist attack and yet the word "al-qaeda" was dropped. why do you think so? >> remember they didn't acknowledge that it was a terrorist attack, not only it was al-qaeda. and still today they don't acknowledge it was al-qaeda. there is a narrative that al-qaeda is on the run and the administration wants the american people to believe that. that is simply not the case. al-qaeda is growing and for sure in north africa where you have a young population. it appears that someone is trying to shield the administration from taking responsibility. >> you think that morell will be subpoena to get him back. >> i would think that mr. morell given his career and service, i am sure he will voluntarily come back to the committees. >> we'll see if that plays out. congressman, thank you for joining us today. jamie? >> thank you, congressman, as well. there are new details of the warnings of possible attempts to attack passenger jets with shoe bombs. al-qaeda link to the latest threat. this man. ibra him a l sir i who is called the best bomb attacker maker

panetta, according to him, they go -- both dempsey and panetta go to the white house where mr. quote, no question in my mind it was a terrorist attack. so has this kind of been glossed over, what carter hamm has said? he said it's a terrorist attack. the top officials of this country go to the white house, one of them at least saying and believing it was a terrorist attack, and then for 13 days what we get is, it's a dopey movie, a dopey movie, a dopey movie, a dopey movie. >> which was ludicrous from the beginning. i mean, so we're supposed to believe that a group of angry men having watched this youtube video somehow assembled a collection of rpgs and mounted a coordinated attack over a series of hours on a u.s. position? come on. i mean, it just never made any sense. but, again, i'm unsatisfied -- and i think anybody watching this should be -- as to why? why would they go out of their way to tell such an obvious, such a transparent lie? what was the point? eric: that's the allegation, and he may be called back to capitol hill. so we'll see. tucker, we'll see you this weekend

but as you recall, the president named his cia director, a guy named leon panetta. a man i did not know, even though he had a lengthy washington resumÉ. and he asked me to my utter amazement, to stay on until the white house could find a new candidate. so i wound up staying for close to a year. in that short year, leon panetta, my last cia director and, you know, the briefest-tenured cia director i served under, i came to conclude he was the most effective. reason for that is i've always thought there were three essential elements to being a successful cia director. one, you have to have clout with the white house, with the president. because without that, cia is irrelevant. two, you have to, you have to form a bond of sorts with the cia work force which can be, you know, it's not easy. i mean it's a particular culture. they've been around for, you know generations. and it's sort of a bond that can't be taught, can't be learned, but you have to have that because they have to trust the guy on the seventh floor. the third is to have effective relations or at least dec

[laughter] what did the director of panetta say to you? >> this is a pretty good story. this was the night the chairman rogers formerly assumed the chairmanship of the house intelligence community in january 2011 and i had just been selected as the staff director. leon panetta invited chairman rogers out to dinner in his quiet dining room on -- at langley. i was like enough to get to go along as staffer and i assumed that dinner was a very shrewd way of cia director beginning to build a relationship with someone who had oversight responsibility over the agency. and so as we walked to dinner i expected to go back and have a nice dinner but we were led into leon panetta's office and he had a citizens conference table which was strewn with pictures of the abbottabad compound in pakistan and he had at the table also two of the top spies and analysts on the bin laden case and was able to lay out for chairman rogers. he pulled it piece of paper out of the breast pocket of his jacket and he looked like he had just briefed the white house and scribbled notes. a very detailed upd

leon panetta met with president obama and they knew. and then the stuff still continued to happen.l o'reilly asked president obama the right question in his interview around the super bowl. he said -- >> let's get leon panetta back on the stand and ask him now, i know he testified before, but ask him now after general ham testified, hey, is ham right? did you guys know this was an attack immediately? if you did, why did they push the video? >> exactly. last word, dana. paramount is going to make a film on benghazi. >> i'm sure. >> do you think it will be more truthful? >> if paramount can answer the question, the paramount question, who pushed the video. the excuse can only mean there's a cover-up for politics and the administration will continue to face scrutiny. and if they don't want to answer it, that's fine, but i do think that, bob, i think that republicans, when they wake up in the country, they think, why can't that simple question be answered? and that will matter in 2014. >> and shouldn't bill o'reilly have asked him what he was doing the night of the attack? i'm curious

do you know why the house oversight committee is reluctant to do so to call leon panetta?, but the challenge has been made. and wisconsin, bill, you are dead on about the president's mindset from his point of view. many things don't really matter because the end justifies the means. albuquerque, new mexico, bill, it was disconcerting to hear you and megyn joking about the ongoing problems in russia. what were you thinking? well, linda, perhaps two things, reporting what was happening in the olympic games and why did they pick sochi over salzburg, austria, that makes no sense, you can't even take a shower in russia, that is why putin has his shirt off just in case rain comes in so he can take a shower real fast. and bill, who appointed you drug czar? you're obsessed. feeling a bit insecure. i feel like legalizing marijuana is harming the nation, if you see it differently. and bill, my husband and i would like to have talking points over dinner. depends on who you're serving, talking points can be fussy, and bill, can you let my husband know that urchin number four is due in

do you know why the house oversight committee is reluctant to do so to call leon panetta?enge has been made. and wisconsin, bill, you are dead on about the president's mindset from his point of view. many things don't really matter because the end justifies the means. albuquerque, new mexico, bill, it was disconcerting to hear you and megyn joking about the ongoing problems in russia. what were you thinking? well, linda, perhaps two things, reporting what was happening in the olympic games and why did they pick sochi over salzburg,. you can't even take a shower in russia, that is why putin has his shirt off just in case rain comes in so he can take a shower real fast. and bill, who appointed you drug czar? you're obsessed. feeling a bit insecure. i feel like legalizing marijuana is harming the nation, if you see it differently. and bill, my husband and i would like to have talking points over dinner. depends on who you're serving, talking points can be fussy, and bill, can you let my husband know that urchin number four is due in october? wow. so you have been doing a litt

he wanted to know if defense secretary leon panetta told the president on the day of the attack if it was an act of terror. >> did he tell you it was a terror attack? >> bill, i'm answering your question. what he said to me was we've got to an attack on our compound yet. >> we don't know yet. >> we don't know yet who's doing it. understand, bill, when somebody's attacking our compound, it's an act of terror, which it what it was characterized the day after the attack. the question ends up being who, in fact, was attacking us. >> now, the administration did initially describe the attack as a spontaneous protest. last night the president denied there was any politically motivated coverup and the president also denied that the u irs was used to harass conservatives. anne-marie? >> susan mcginnis in washington. thank you, susan. >>> oscar winner philip seymour hoffman is remembered as one of the great actors. he was found dead in his apartment yesterday. often spoke of his troubles with drug addiction and last year he admitted to falling off the wagon after being sober for 20 years. it wa

that is why leon panetta wanted her buy in on bin laden. what do you think? guest: we will see what happens with ukraine. for the u.s., we simply do not have that kind of power we would like to have internationally. there was a time when the u.s. would speak and other nations would respond. i think the american public expects there is something the u.s. can do to affect a situation. really, in terms of affecting foreign politics, often it is a long-term thing we can do through sanctions. it is very hard to do immediately. if you are in the ukraine and fighting for your life are fighting to put on a revolution, what the u.s. says or sanctions might not have any immediate bearing. host: talking about hillary clinton's career and her future with the authors of a new book, "hrc." ,"ie parnes of "the hill jonathan allen from bloomberg. this line from your book on libya. war." was hillary's hert: this could have been crown jewel, republicans think that was the attack they were taking, then benghazi happened. guest: in terms of it being her the presidents., and many

. >> did he tell panetta, it was a terrorist attack?nswered the question. straight ahead, bret baier is going to react live from washington. >> right. and genius on the big screen. but behind the scenes seems to be a tortured soul. philip seymour hoffman found dead with a needle in his arm. new developments as we go live to his hollywood apartment and get more on that tragedy. but "fox & friends" is upbeat about bringing you the final hour unless you want us to do another. >> i'm joe gibbs, you're watching "fox & friends." these guys have a tough job. >>> new york and new jersey got really lucky yesterday because they hosted the super bowl before it started snowing like this winter advisory all throughout the northeast. today kids not going to school. can you imagine if that would have been during game time? >> i know. i will say this, the new jersey transit could not handle everybody because they took away all the parking spaces for security reasons and because of all the trucks and all the other things they had with the super bowl. so

that is why leon panetta wanted her buy in on bin laden. what do you think? guest: we will see what happens with ukraine. the problem for the u.s., we simply do not have that kind of power we would like to have internationally. there was a time when the u.s. would speak and other nations would respond. i think the american public expects there is something the u.s. can do to affect a situation. really, in terms of affecting foreign politics, often it is a long-term thing we can do through sanctions. it is very hard to do immediately. if you are in the ukraine and fighting for your life are fighting to put on a revolution, what the u.s. says or sanctions might not have any immediate bearing. host: talking about hillary clinton's career and her future with the authors of a new book, "hrc." amie parnes of "the hill," jonathan allen from bloomberg. this line from your book on libya. "libya was hillary's war." guest: this could have been her crown jewel, republicans think that was the attack they were taking, then benghazi happened. guest: in terms of it being her

. >> guest: we had a situation where leon panetta told him on election day that he wasn't going to stick around and the successor susan rice the one that obama wanted to put into the job was getting absolutely destroyed on capitol hill over benghazi in the talking points on the morning talk shows in addition to that her charms to maneuver some of the senators to her side. chanted that getting -- so he's looking at a situation where he will have to have a new defense secretary and that new secretary of state. he has someone who has become most loyal and strong advisor to him. if we keep hillary clinton in here for a while we can resurrect susan rice a little susan rice a little bit. an interesting moment there where she just says i am done. >> host: what you think the impact could be on secretary of state john kerry's tenure and what he might accomplish? we don't know yet that could he overshadow in 2016, could he overshadow what she did. >> guest: he has a few years left to accomplish what he is going to accomplish and he is certainly reaching for the stars. there is an effort to claim u

clinton never called leon panetta, secretary of defense. that is stunning. >> it was not stunning enough for david petraeus to talk about. of all of the things they intrude david petraeus about in regarding benghazi. this is what he wanted on the record with and what does that tell you? >> everybody makes mistakes. >> you think that david petraeus made a mistake. he also said in a different part of the book, she would make a tremendous president. for political purposes it sounds like he is endorsing her are as though he believes in her. >> you could be right. that would be mistake number two. >> it sounds like, how do you interpret this he is giving the glowing reviews. >> he's possibly sucking up to her. i don't know what is on his mind. i think his assessment of benghazi is flawed if that is what he believes. the secretary of state and entire administration mishandled it before and after and during the attack. >> you are written in the book and takes issue with where you made a comment when she was supposed to go to congress and she had f

did he tell, secretary panetta, it was a terrorist attack?> you know what he told me was there was an attack on our compound -- >> reporter: he didn't use the word terror? >> you know, in the heat of the moment, bill what folks are focused on is what's happening on the ground, do we have eyes on it how can we make sure our -- >> i want to get this on the record. did he tell you it was a terror -- >> and i'm answering your question. what he said to me was we've got an attack on our compound. >> no terror attack? >> we don't know yet who's doing it. understand by definition bill when somebody is attacking our compound -- >> yeah. >>> -- that's an act of terror. >> reporter: the president also denied there were any political motives behind the irs treatment of conservative groups. he told o'reilly these are all settled issues. he accused fox news of keeping them alive. but even so the president said with a big broad smile, he had enjoyed the exchange. charlie, norah? >> bill thank you. >>> of course after that interview, the big game seattle's r

the carter in the pentagon got a phone call and new it was a terrorist attack and he told panetta and >> they told washington and libyan authorities that immediately that it was a well coordinated terrorist attack. and that is false. that was the best information we had. it may have been best information she had. i think she was deceived herself. and a year or so later after rewarded with the job of national security advisor for going on the sunday shoes and hillary clinton knew it was a deception and turn out to be a lie, susan rice is doing what the administration does best. deny accountable and contrition. >> and what would you have want wanted to hear. >> it would be nice to hear what secretary clinton said. benghazi is the most regrettable incident that she participated with. it was regrettable and a tragedy and the administration deserves accountability for it. >> richard, why wouldn't they express level of contrition. >> i mean with susan rice yesterday. >> i don't know susan rice personally and she said it was not the right information. but to be honest the blame should be poi

this is a group founded by leon panetta's former chief of staff and phillip raines, a man who is described as hillary clinton's, quote, most visible spokesman and guardian much her public persona. when asked for comment on these allegations, mr. morell referred fox news to the cia public affairs office. well, the public is still looking for answers as well, a new fox poll shows 66% want congress to continue the investigation of the benghazi scandal. the turning now to other foreign policy crises where the obama administration has been ineffective, the ukraine, signs of progress tonight after government opposition leaders signed an agreement to form a new government and hold an early election. it is unclear how well the deal will hold, of course. antigovernment demonstrators still demanding president viktor yanukovych's immediate resignation but the developments mark a stunning turn around from just yesterday when clashes left nearly 80 people dead. president obama called his russian counterpart, vladmir putin, shortly after that agreement was signed. the white house says they talked about

. >> did he tell you secretary panetta it was a terrorist attack?n our compound? >> he didn't use the word terror? >> in the heat of the moment bill what folks are focused on is what's happening on the ground do we have eyes on it how can we make sure the folks are there. >> did he tell you it was a terror attack. >> what he said to me we an attack on our compound. we don't know yet who is doing it. understand by definition, bill, when someone is attacking our compound that's an act of terror which is how i characterized it the day after it happened. so the question ends up being who in fact was attacking us. >> it is more than that. it's more than that because susan rice goes out and tells the world it was a span tan why yous demonstration off of a videotape. your commanders and secretary of defense know it was a terror attack. >> i am trying to explain it if you want to listen. the fact of the matter is people understood at the time something very dangerous was happening that we were focused on making sure we did everything we can to protect them.

this is a group founded by leon panetta's former chief of staff and phillip raines, a man who is described as hillary clinton's, quote, most visible spokesman and guardian much her public persona. when asked for comment on these allegations, mr. morell referred fox news to the cia public affairs office. ll, the plic is still looking for answers as well, a new fox poll sho 66% want congress to continue the investigation of the benghazi scandal. the turning now t oth foreign policy crises where the obama administration has be ineffective, the ukraine, signs of progress tonight after government oosition leaders signed an agreeme to fm a new government and hold anarly election. it is unclear how well the deal will hold, of cours antigovernment demonstrators still demanding preside viktor nukovych's immiate resignation but the development mark a stunning tn around from just yesterday when clashes left nearly 80 people dead. president obama called his russian counterpart, vlmir putin, shortly after that agreement was signed. the white house says they talked about the importance of stablizing ukr

secretary panetta said it was terrorism. you don't send f-16s. you don't send troops or any of the military companies prepared to deal with emergencies. and here's the kicker. the fight went on for hours and hours and you still didn't send help. so don't lie to me and tell me you did everything you could. so how about you just tell me what you did. then again, how much can you say if you did nothing? and you still can't come clean on whether or not it was terrorism. >> you have the folks who are trouble makers and tomorrow affiliated with terrorist organizations, some who are not. >> i bet if you look at our military you'd find a true troublemakers and a few with an ideological agenda, too. it doesn't mean they are not part of a unified military organization. why can't you just answer the question? was it terrorism and when did you know it? for you one day it is, one day it isn't. in the words of jay-z, one day you're here, one day you're there. you send susan rice out five days later to talk about a video two weeks later you're apologizing for t

some people call it the panetta review. were you aware of this internal review when you provided the official response to this committee in june of last year? i do not have much time, i would appreciate a yes or no answer. >> it was not a review. it was a summary. at the time, i had not gone through it. >> it strikes me as a bit improbable given that you knew about the internal review and you spoke to us and stated that your obligation as a c.i.a. director was to make sure that the cia's response was as thorough and accurate as possible. in that context, let me move to the next question. does the information in the internal review contradict any of the positions included in your june 2013 response to the committee? >> i respectfully would like to say i do not think this is the proper format for that. discussion -- for that discussion. i look forward to addressing these questions with committee at the appropriate time. >> let me make sure you understand. are you seeing -- saying that the officers that were asked to produce t

we have a section in the book where director panetta has to talk to her and get her buy-in on the bin raid because he knew that she would back the president. these are things that she should point out should she run for the presidency. >> one of your early leaks about the book, not leaks but excerpts is it begins in the wake of the 2008 campaign for hillary. it's called "hillary's hit list" so that friends could be rewarded and enemies punished. john kerry, jay rockefeller, claire mccaskill, ted kennedy, patrick leahy. you know that all politicians do this to a certain extent but do the clinton aides do this more than your average politician's aide? john? >> well, you know, they are much more clinical about it. they are keeping microsoft excel spreadsheets because they have come into contact with so many people over so many years that you couldn't keep it all in your head. one of the things we do in the book is go through -- that excerpt doesn't talk about it but we go through the people that bill clinton went after on the campaign trail in 2010, 2012. my favorite part of the book is

. >> did he tell you, secretary panetta, that there was a terrorist attack? >> he told me there was an attack on the compound. what folks are focusing on -- >> did he tell you it was a terror attack? >> bill, i'm answering your question. what he said was we have an attack on the compound. we don't know yet who's doing it. understand when somebody's attacking our compound, that's an act of terror. >> and our good friend from the five, bob beckel am i thought this was a really good interview. it's very difficult to interview a president. you've got to respect the office. you can't let the president run out the clock. and i thought bill was really able to strike that balance. so stylistically i liked how he did the interview. >> it was a good interview on his part. the thing that amazes me, is that one, obama agreed to do it. like agrooeing it do it with you, that's the last thing. the other thing is, i'm not so sure people want to hear about politics and all that stuff just before they watch the biggest game of the year. >> what do you think he's supposed to sa

leon panetta invited chairman rodgers out to dinner in his private dining room on the seventh floor of the private intelligence agency at langley. i was like enough to get to go along as a staffer and i assumed the dinner was a very shrewd way of cia director beginning to build a relationship with someone who had oversight responsibility of the agency. so as we walked into dinner i expected to go back and have a nice dinner but we were immediately beckoned into leon panetta's office and he had had as good as his conference table which was strewn with pictures that we are all now familiar of of the abbottabad compound in pakistan and he had at the table also top spies and analysts on the bin laden case and was able to layout for chairman rodgers a full day and pulled a piece of paper out of the breast pocket of his jacket and he looked like he had just briefed the white house and had a scribbled notes. chairman rodgers had a very detailed update that we think we might have found bin laden in tora bora and here are the reasons we think that in here are the things we are going to try to d

and in fact secretary panetta testified before the armed services committee, as did the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, chairman dempsey, that they knew at the time that it was a terrorist attack. but, apparently, when ambassador rice went on to tell the story about this being the result of a hateful and heinous video and protests that started in cairo, she missed that testimony from -- this is incredibly important information held by key security leaders in our government. we also know that on september 12 -- this is four days before she appeared on the sunday shows -- the day after the attacks, according to testimony given before the house oversight and government reform committee last may, that beth jones, who was then acting-assistant secretary of state for near east affairs, sent an e-mail -- she sent an e-mail on behalf of our government to the libyan ambassador in washington, d.c., that read the folting: "the group that conducted the attacks, ansar al-sharia is affiliated with islamic terrorists. "quags this is four days before ambassador rice got all the sunday shows

dod, i the at privilege of working with two terrific secretaries of defense, bob gates and leon panetta. i was part of their management team. i saw them a decisions. when you are the general counsel you have purview over the entire department of defense unlike almost everybody else. i was part of the management team. health solved a lot of problems. i was involved in a number of difficult issues. involveded, it national security. i came back to government in february 2009. i have been the eyewitness to many historic events that occurred and were involved in some of the decision-making here in washington. i would say that the thing that comes to mind first when you ask a question like that is i have a passion for the mission. i left government a year ago and was i was done settling back into private life. the president asked me if i would do this job. it ever occur to me that i would be sitting here, that i would be asked to do this job. i have a passion for the mission. i believe deeply in the mission. i want to serve the country. that is why i am here. >> good answer. own shot outget m

. >> did he tell you, secretary panetta that it was a terrorist attack? >> he didn't use the word terror? >> in the heat of the moment, what folks are focused on, who -- >> did he tell you it was a terror attack. >> bill, i'm answering your question. what he said we have got an attack on our compound, we don't know yet who's doing it. by definition, when somebody is attacking our compound, that's an act of terror. >> let me start, i thought this was a really good interview. it's very difficult as you know to interview a president. you got to respect the office, you can't let the president run out the clock. and i thought bill was really able to strike that balance, so stylistically, i really like how he did it. >> the thing that amazes me, is that one, obama agreed to do it. that he agreed to do it with you. that's about the last thing obama would do unless we wants to decide to get out of his office. oh, come on and still don't wait for that christmas invitation. i'm not so sure people want to hear about politics just before they go to see the biggest ga

bill o'reilly asked him, did secretary of defense leon panetta tell him that night that the attacks were the works of terrorists? mr. president, o'reilly asked that question, and yet the president over and over again refused to answer a simple yes or no, did leon panetta tell him it was the act of terrorists. he did not want to answer that question and indeed, he did not. for those of us that have spent some of our career in a court of law, the technical term for his answer was nonresponsive and were a judge there, he would have directed the president to answer the question that was put to him. nor did the president say one word about why the talking points were scrubbed to eradicate any mention of terrorism and the al qaeda affiliates involved. mr. president, we need accountable. we need accountable for those four brave americans who lost their lives to terrorism. and we need to know why no one has been held accountable in the state department, nor that any of the terrorists who committed that attack have been brought to justice. and, mr. president, said be a adeany, the american pastor

these two issues i think leon panetta appealed to the white house and the dni lost so it was a pretty spectacular loss. he wanted basically the power to appoint station chiefs effectively and the most important person in the country. he wanted that to be news remit. >> he did indeed on this is where the book tries to get into some of the vagaries of the statute in that we didn't really consider or debate very much in 2004 the relationship between the cia and the director of national intelligence however this came to be one of the chief lines in the side of the dni going forward. the blair episode merits aside the issue everyone knew he had fought leon panetta on these two issues and came out on the losing side. people in washington noticed. people notice the new director of national intelligence had lost an important issue and something they had appealed to the white house on and it hurt the dni's authority. >> going forward is this going to be personality dependent depending on who the dni is because he or she will have to and a sense operate by consensus or basically is this it bure

>> in 2009, director panetta had a single star carved for each of the families. to each family who loses a family member, father, son, mother, daughter. >> and there are women on this wall? >> there are ten women on the wall. the youngest is a woman, barbara robins. was just 21 years old when she was killed in 1965 in vietnam. >> other interesting stories from this list, it goes back to 1950? >> it does. normal schwartz and civil roddy were air pilots, and they had a mission to fly into communist china to retrieve an agent and his document package. what we didn't know was the agent had been compromised, and the communist forces were alert to the mission. they shot the plane down, and the pilots died in the crash. there were two young cia paramilitary officers onboard the plane that day who survived and were held in prison in china for two decades. when president nixon went to china, we were able to bring them home. >> any new cia officer knows this play well, too. >> that's right. because on your first day, you join the agency, that monday you take your oath of o

. >> we have to speak to panetta. >> yes. >> yeah. >> we'll wait to see whether that happens. >> thankll the best. >>> christians targeted across the globe for their faith. you will want to hear what the state department told us it's doing about this. good job! still runnng in the morning? yeah. getting your vegebles every day? when i can. [ bop ] [ male announcer ] could've had a v8. two full servings of vegetables for only 50 delicious calories. with an ultra-thin coating and fast absorbing advil ion core™ technology, it stops pain before it gets worse. nothingorks faster. new fast acting advil. look for it in the white box. of fast is good and faster is better. good thing walgreens gets you in and out in no time. so you get the relief you need with new fast acting advil. at the corner of happy and healthy. gs up! legs up! legs up! verizon has free tablets and ee phones. get here anyway you can. good job! free tablets. free phones. on the best network. only at verizon. get tablets like the verizon ellipsis 7 free. and when you trade in your old smartphone, you can get the samsung gal

we did see secretary gates and secretary panetta push these specific proposals with tri-care fees with some of the benefit rollbacks. they were met with mixed success. it is very easy for congress to give out extra money when it looks like they are being magnanimous when it comes time to pay for it and it becomes tougher for everyone. >> what happens with the budget proposal from here, the proposal from secretary hagel, where it is a go now? rex next monday we will see the rollout of the federal budget proposals. said -- gaveel some of the themes and you will see people attacking the nitty-gritty specifics. it will head up to the hill and there are some authorization bills. mckeon said that he has committed this year to making sure that his committee's work on the defense authorization bill get done by october 1. it would be the second time in the last decade they have been able to get the budget bill done on time. we will see. there is usually plenty of fights not just tween dod and congress but the house in the senate. >> you can read his work it armytimes.com. thanks for the insight

i don't think panetta would even do it. he goes and gets hagel out there to make the most contradictory speech i can remember. we have more threats and we have different threats than ever before, so we'll go to acceleawdown. fantastic. let's make sure we're definitely not ready for the new challenges. >> i'm sorry, you said our enemies, our big enemies are growing and growing. our big enemies are russia and china and north korea. >> iran. >> and iran. combined, they don't add to up to half of what we spend in defense. >> you said what we do now -- >> that's the problem, i don't. >> in the next five years or ten years. setting the table for now using our technological advantage to get the best weapon system out there to keep our people safe for the maximum amount of money. if he can explain how rnd is going to save us boots on the ground, do it. >> bob, haven't you railed against the chinese before, how they're growing in size and strength. >> absolutely. >> the world is not becoming more safe. it's more dangerous. why would

there are also questions that bill o'reilly tried to get answers to, for example, about what leon panetta told him on the day of the event itself. there's plenty out there for news people to remain curious about, it's not fox news's fault that not all news media have been as curious about them as ours has. >> on the irs targeting -- the left likes to say, progressive groups were targeted as well, and there's some evidence of that, but the facts show that seven progressive groups are targeted, an average of five additional questions were asked of liberal groups, the liberals were approved at a rate of 100%. conservatives at a rate of 40%. there's a disparity there that bears investigating. my question for you is, we've seen the irs scandal, the benghazi scandal, obama care and all of its problems, and we're seeing a constant deterioration in the trust the american people have for this president. the latest poll puts it at 50/50, it's almost dead even the number of people who trust him. 49%. he used to be almost 60% trustworthy. and the fall keeps on coming. >> people are reluctant to reach

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