are you done with politics in government, secretary panetta?ere any job that might bring you back to washington? maybe hillary clinton's running mate in 2016? >> you know, i've -- i've mentioned this before. i've got -- i'm back on a walnut ranch that my father helped plant and, you know, i am glad to be back home working with a different set of nuts. it's much more fun to be working back on the farm in caramel valley. that's where i'm going to stay for a while. >> a slightly different nut farm out in california. secretary leon panetta, we really appreciate your time this morning. thanks for joining us. good talking to you, sir. >> thanks very much, jim. >>> and can the war against isis be won without american combat boots on the ground? a retired navy s.e.a.l. now serving in congress and the former house intelligence committee chairman are here next. but first, we have a very special guest. come on out, flo! [house band playing] you have anything to say to flo? nah, i'll just let the results do the talking. [crowd booing] well, he can do that.

we'll panetta said of president -- liam panetta said that of president clinton, he was willing to do it everything involved that led to unparalleled economic growth. another insight is what this meant for party politics. democrats before bill clinton's prosody had -- bill clinton residency had not been number fiscal responsibility. it was a shift in party roles and identities and a number of oral histories. roger altman says it may turn out that bill clinton may have transformed the democratic party. the leadership in that area is substantial. >> these two guys are going to have to -- jean -- gene sperling , what is your proudest moment? >> proudest is getting the earned income tax increase in the 19 and three debt reduction. i was his campaign conscience and it was hard to fight for that and see him go long and picked that up and see the impact that made and how much it fit the values that bruce talked about. i would say, being there when he stood up. i was just really proud to be part of a white house -- i am blessed to have this person is my chief of staff his management. there is

i guess what message -- this is what leon panetta's point is.ssage does it send to isis and the rest of the world if this country can't get its act together and pass this authorization? >> i think the biggest issue right now the fact that republicans are saying mr. president, are you really serious about taking on isis? this anything different than exactly what we're doing right now except now it sounds bigger because you're going to congress. i would hope that the president would say, hey, we need to all get in a room and show unity here. i don't think you're going to have a problem with republicans activating or being in support of an actual war on isis. i think most republicans believe we've not done enough. and the president has not taken them serious. so if he wants to actually take on isis it will be very hard to find republicans who don't say yes to it. >> mark lamond hill are democrats going to back up this president? they were complaining almost as soon as this authorization was made public are. they going to back him up on this? >> i t

leon panetta said that he was willing to do it, knowing all the risks involved, that panetta says led to economic growth. we talked a lot about economic policy, but another insight in the all history is party politics. the democrats, before brooklyn's policy, had not been known for fiscal discipline. it was known as a revolutionary shift in party roles and identities, and a number of oral histories -- roger altman says it may turn out that bill clinton may have transformed the democratic party. the leadership in that area is substantial. i do not know if that satisfactorily answers your question. >> gene sperling , what is your proudest moment? >> proudest is getting the earned income tax increase in the 1993 deficit reduction. i was his campaign conscience and it was hard to fight for that and see him go long and take that up and see the impact that made and how much it fit the values that bruce talked about. i would say, being there when he stood up. i was just really proud to be part of a white house -- i am blessed to have this person is my chief of staff his values, his managemen

i wasn't expecting this response from leon panetta. how he described the greatest national security threat to the united states. >> the president could get this done. but it's going to take a continuing commitment. you know look. you want to know what the biggest national security threat is to this country right now? it's the total dysfunction in washington. the fact that so little can be done by the congress. they can't even resolve the issue of homeland security. they can't deal with budgets. they can't deal with immigration reform. they can't deal with infrastructure. they can't deal with other issues. if they wind up not being able to deal with this war authorization, that sends a terrible message to the world. >> and you will see the entire interview tomorrow morning at 9:00 eastern when i host cnn's state-of-the-union. our guest the former defense secretary and cia director leon panetta. he talks about not only the war on isis but the situation in ukraine and much much more. so we'll see you back there tomorrow morning for state-

>> boehner was right and panetta was right. house did their job.t is up to senate democrats and senate as a whole to get together. they don't like each other. they don't talk. there are a lot of hard feelings because of massive shift in the senate. mitch mcconnell is trying to get back to regular order get them back on track get them working away from harry reid's do-nothing senate. it will take some time. they need to act as americans first. they need to find a way to come together on things we're talking about, isis immigration. president through executive order made all these things come into effect. only way that we can actually be the check and balance of president to do what they're doing. >> somebody like good friend john mccain, talking about how he is not sure the right to pick. i'm not sure republicans could get 51 votes. >> they will get it. >> i love how republicans are against the filibuster all of sudden. very refreshing, thank you, republican. >> if democrats don't like republican bills, pass their own bill. >> not allowing it to com

bill: leon panetta blasting the white house. greatest threat to our national security is the inability of washington to get anything done. >> the greatest threat to this country's national security is the total dysfunction. the fact so little can be done with it congress. they can't deal with homeland security budgets infrastructure, immigration. if they can't deal with this war authorization that sends a terrible message to the world. bill: dr. ben carson wrote the book, "you have a brain. he's the professor emeritus of pediatric surgery at johns hopkins. what do you think of what secretary panetta laid out? >> i think he has a lot of validity in what he is saying. we have all become democrats or republicans instead of americans. everything is aimed at enhancing one political position. unless we are able to get beyond the politicalization. -- a house divided against itself cannot stand. the president is the purpose who is -- is the person who is supposed to bed the leader. the definition of a good leader is someone who can take

leon panetta has complained about that and so has robert gates?he ceo can't name the opposition, in this case radical islam, that's where the breakdown comes. it's not a matter of corporate success or failure, it's whether the investors get a return on investment for us. success is a matter of life or death. that micromanagement that they're getting out of the white house from the ceo's chairman's office is devastating to the shareholders. i think it's time for a shareholder revolt. tell that board of directors we'll fire them if they don't make this thing right. tom: colonel it's a big budget a lot of money, very complex. the defense secretary has to be pretty smart at running. that this guy apparently knows his stuff on where the money needs to go. but the president is coming out with new budget and saying if you don't give me more money we're going to have a national security issue. in other words, we're going to be cutting the pentagon even more. is this guy being brought in because of the fact that he knows how to cut without cutting muscle?

leon panetta - who also served as secretary of defense -- talked about the terror group earlier today. >> isis represents all whole new phase on the war on terrorism. we are dealing with an enemy that is well funded and a strong command and control. we have an enemy that is well armed >> vicki: panetta said he's confident the president can get the authorization needed to fight the terror group. but he slammed congress, saying that the greatest security threat the u-s faces is - quote - "total dysfunction in washington." a day celebrating love and romance.was nearly marred this year by violence and hate. now, more details are emerging about an alleged plot to kill dozens of people in halifax on saturday; including the identities of the suspects.and where the attack was supposed to take place. angela macivor reports. >> reporter: it's one the busiest places in the city: the halifax shopping centre. police say it was the intended target of a mass shooting on this valentines day. >> "i did second guess coming here but i don't know. i decided to come anyway. but it's scary. you hear about

. >> according to leon panetta's account it was leah -- leon panetta it was. that was the driver. >> she is a supremely cautious person. no question about that. the military really like her. she is there -- their girl. i have had the opportunity to observe this and she gets along extremely well with the brass. whether she is also a person who is constantly learning from her mistakes and in constant development. she is not going to replay, i do not think, the iraq war decision if god forbid, we have another such vote. >> remember you and a lot of people who supported her were doing it -- supported it were doing it based on false information. >> there were a lot of people who got the call right. the same thing applies to her choosing people which is one of the most important jobs of president has. it is an open question. i am not saying she would do a bad job but in the past, she sometimes has chosen people for their loyalty rather than for their talent. not always but sometimes. >> this has been a real problem with the obama administration is that there has not

. >> according to leon panetta's account it was leah -- leon panetta it was. that was the driver. >> she is a supremely cautious person. no question about that. the military really like her. she is there -- their girl. i have had the opportunity to observe this and she gets along extremely well with the brass. whether she is also a person who is constantly learning from her mistakes and in constant development. she is not going to replay, i do not think, the iraq war decision if god forbid, we have another such vote. >> remember you and a lot of people who supported her were doing it -- supported it were doing it based on false information. >> there were a lot of people who got the call right. the same thing applies to

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panetta's statement is backed up by the president's own words yesterday.first job is to protect the american people but we have to attend to a lot of other issues and make sure we are right sizing our approach so that what we do isn't counter productive. i would argue that our invasion of iraq was counter productive to the goal of keeping our country safe. >> with all due respect to the president, this country is capable of attending to many issues at the same time. and the war in iraq should not impede effective strategy against muslim killers today. to allow the jihad to continue its reign of terror without a solid plan strikes me as irresponsible and dangerous. louisiana night i folk with david axelrod. he like secretary kerry believes that air power and paper coalition will eventually degrade the isis fanatics. i think kayla mueller might disagree. and tease that's the memo. joining us from new york city monica crowley and from washington kirsten powers. what i'm not understanding is that you have two former defense secretaries. you have the director o

starting with secretary gates through secretary panetta. we have had four rounds in the last war years. we are undertaking a new one that we are going to build into the fy 17 budget. this is about following through on all of the things we have underway. >> tell us about the secretary works initiative in the 17 budget. >> we have a business for the has been looking at our operations from a big picture and defense business perspective as well as ininternal groups looking at each organization viewing its own operatioions. everyone is going to report to the deputy, including myself for my organization. we are goingo look at ways we can reduce spending on common auctions like i.t.. we will have a proposal for next year's budget for that. >> i want to talk about the recommendations, which were intriguing. dr. carter said without more ney the national security strategy becomes becomes an executable. when it comes to executing the nation security strategy, is it a binary thing where you cannot execute it? how does that translate from budgetary to e

. >> leon panetta wasn't a gi. he was pretty good. bob gates? >> bob gates was. >> might have served time in the army. i will say this about president obama's policy with the military. >> i think panetta was a veteran. >> wasn't known as -- >> combat fighter. >> right. i will say this president obama is very uncomfortable with the military. and that's why you see this going on. he doesn't believe the military should play a central role in any part of our, of the american, of this country right now. >> what do you do, cycle through defense secretaries to find one guy that agrees with you? that's crazy. >> let's be clear he reflects not that support this i'm giving you facts, he reflects views of a lot of americans. melissa: totally disagree. >> this is most americans. melissa: i don't think most americans feel that way. >> many come on. melissa: all happening against a backdrop of oil taking investors for a wild ride, plummeting back below $49 a barrel an wiping out gains from a four-day rally. two reports of oversupply pushing oil off a cliff an

did he tell you secretary panetta, it was a terrorist attack? i got to get to the irs.saying no corruption? >> not even a smidgen was the answer. howard kurts is host of media buzz. savannah guthrie went on this morning to air her pre-taped interview with barack obama and was a fair interview. she pressed him on some significant issues like isis and then he gave her an answer she pressed him again and she didn't let his answer stand. but talk about a missed opportunity with the viewership of the super bowl watching the one we just showed the clip of. >> you took the words right out of my mouth because this was a massive audience biggest tv show in history. it it was kind of like infotainment. wings or chips? particular when she asked the president was his state of the union speech like an end zone dance? he denied it. there weren't very many questions where she tried to pin him down on much of anything. it was more of a casual chat. >> is that a decision? in my experience of people that work worked at nbc news and work there now, managed by the highest level. this isn't

panetta's statement is backed up by the president's own words yesterday.first job is to protect the american people but we have to attend to a lot of other issues and make sure we are right sizing our approach so that what we do isn't counter productive. i would argue that our invasion of iraq was counter productive to the goal of keeping our country safe. >> with all due respect to the president, this country is capable of attending to many issues at the same time. and the war in iraq should not impede effective strategy against muslim killers today. to allow the jihad to continue its reign of terror without a solid plan strikes me as irresponsible and dangerous. louisiana night i folk with david axelrod. he like secretary kerry believes that air power and paper coalition will eventually degrade the isis fanatics. i think kayla mueller might disagree. and tease that's the memo. joining us from new york city monica crowley and from washington kirsten powers. what i'm not understanding is that you have two former defense secretaries. you have the director o

leon panetta who was secretary of defense from 2011 until 2013. he replaced robert gates who was a holdover from the previous bush administration. >>> a train derailment ignites a fireball of crude oil. why this is raising so many concern here in the bay area. >>> a foggy start to the day. steve paulson is tracking the lingering fog and the forecast. >>> and giving back hon a global scale. the bay area school that's helping feed families half a world away and the unique reward they will receive for their commitment to change. >>> a state of emergency orders an effect in west virginia where a train derailment, not far from charleston, ignited a massive fire of crude oil and is polluting local waterways. the train tee railment happened -- derailment happened yesterday afternoon. kellry wright explains why 24 hours later residents are still evacuated. >> reporter: the governor of west virginia declaring a state of emergency after a train hauling more than 100 cars of crude oil derailed during a snowstorm. the incident happening monday afternoon near

panetta talked about mistakes. is it too late for them to be corrected? >> it's not too late. every time we fail to en gauge against isis and isis continues to grow then the amount of effort and time the united states has to put into this effort continues to grow over time. they are adding about a thousand young men to their rolls every week. the afghanistan army is just not doing well in coalescing themselves and building morale they need and quality of training they need to take on isis. >> you mean the iraqi army. >> of course oh. >> they threw down arms, fled. isis captured the former equipment we gave to the iraqi army. how do we get their morale back to confront isis? >> i have talked to several people who were engaged in the training mission with the iraqi army. they tell memo ral is-- me that morale is low. corruption is rampant. secularism is a problem. the american advisers aren't fully engaged because of the laus and rules of engagement that keep them from completely partnering and getting involved in this war. there is a malaise, let ji, this sense of moral hopeles

the three top guys panetta, gates, and flynn say there is no strategy.should be concerning. >> do you think that i have a bunch of other stuff. >> you have posited your theory about how we should send ground forces to in to secretary gates? do you think he agrees with that? >> yes, do i believe that they all agree there should be international ground force. >> i think there is a great deal of debate as to. >> not among those those gentlemen. >> american troops and with the american people there is. i mean, solve the same voices calling for this were the same voices who were calling for us to invade iraq in the first place. >> not an occupation situation. it's a confrontation situation. it's not an occupation. >> what happens then, bill? >> are we going to stay in perpetuity? >> no. we kill them and then we leave. if we have to go back we kill them and then we leave. >> your assumption is -- that's it, there is no more anywhere else? this doesn't inflame the situation if they don't have recruits coming in, this doesn't inflame -- does it add to our securi

to john mccai and others the morore he distances himself the m more 's going to get i t that leon panetta chuck hagel colum where they will just freez hanna. >> the president already dismissed two off them. it's unlikely he will go through another one this point. >>let we go to the qution of the budget. it w was aimed amodernizing. it lacked big sweeping premes. mike mccord the pentagon compt ollerr said, wdon't want that again. it lacks disconnectsf in the lastst budgets. what are the prospects congress will even vaguely embrace this as a budget? the president has the right priorities of r returning funding rerefunding longer-term prrams at really need to get underway. unfortrtunately,e have seethe riright prioritiess and a good sense of w what will notot get funded when get to apprpropriations. >> it's a realllly sound request. restorining the long-term health thehe air force, , inveing in its fu not justture, -- its fufuture, not just thehe predent. it is a grt proposal, but it will not survive e a minute on the hihill when the h house resolution drdraft is shownwn publicly. e pentagon

how do you -- the -- how do you feel you can break through the barriers that gates and panetta panetta -- we spoke about the book secretary gates wrote. they both seem to have a great deal of frustration in their time in position you'll be confirmed with the white house national security team and the pentagon. and they left -- they seemed to have left in part in frustration with that i think senator gates and his book maybe even called it amateur hour at the national security council. how are you going to be different in relating to the pentagon and the president's national security team? >> well i intend to be what i've always been in all the decades i've worked in the department of defense which is i'll be entirely straight and up front. with the president. and make my advice as cogent and as useful to him in making his decisions as i possibly can. that's what i can do. that's what i've pledged to do. that's what i will do. >> thank you. thank you, mr. chair. >> thank you. senator brown. >> dr. carter i appreciated the opportunity to visit with you last week. one of the items we disc

how do you -- the -- how do you feel you can break through the barriers that gates and panetta panetta -- we spoke about the book secretary gates wrote. they both seem to have a great deal of frustration in their time in position you'll be confirmed with the white house national security team and the pentagon. and they left -- they seemed to have left in part in frustration with that i think senator gates and his book maybe even called it amateur hour at the national security council. how are you going to be different in relating to the pentagon and the president's national security team? >> well i intend to be what i've always been in all the decades i've worked in the department of defense which is i'll be entirely straight and up front. with the president. and make my advice as cogent and as useful to him in making his decisions as i possibly can. that's what i can do. that's what i've pledged to do. that's what i will do. >> thank you. thank you, mr. chair. >> thank you. senator brown. >> dr. carter i appreciated the opportunity to visit with you last week. one of the items we disc

about people say he presents problems in the abstract like a law professor i think that's what leon panetta. more sometimes with logic rather than sometimes -- >> logic is underrated i think. i heard leon say that, i was really surprised because i was there, i saw this president make series of decisions about the economy, each of which were as unpopular as they were necessary. i write about that in my book. and was willing to do it because thought it was the right thing for the country. some folks in this town have hard time processing that he took on health care. i and others told him that this is going to be a political quagmire for him but he felt it had to be done. i know chuck schumer and others say it was bad political decision. but that -- wasn't bad decision for the ten, 13 million people who have insurance today and others who will benefit in the future that's what he was thinking about. >> schieffer: do you think in retrospect that he went about it in the wrong way in the sense of lyndon johnson wrote the civil rights bill in to two bills the '64 and '65 civil rights. he just didn

but i hope leon panetta is right. maybe we got something wrong ban we need to change course and change strategy in ukraine and the middle east. and i hope that's right. but i haven't seen that yet. bill: you were in northern prawk a few months ago. will you vote for that authority for the president? what does that look like? >> i introduced my own use of force authorization that takes away the 3-years time limit. we don't play the commander-in-chief as congress so i'll vote to give him authority but i won't vote for any restrictions because that will terry over to the next president who is hopefully a republican. martha: a deadly road range incident has now taken a major turn. why police say this mother of four actually went looking for the man who eventually killed her. bill: a train derailment and explosion that to have bench worse. >> six cars piled up shaking the trees. surround the home they run into with flames from the cars. the liquids from the cars. about 3 seconds later the guy ran out of his home. martha: i

you write a book bob gates are leon panetta or hillary clinton there is a cottage industry of formerhave publishers on speed dial because dirt sells. david axelrod is the latest in for his new book titled i know you don't give a crap i tried to make money. he said the president was peeved after getting off that concession called because mitt romney was getting racial when he congratulated the obama in the urban stronghold in cleveland and obama inferred he only one because of planned communities when really it was hurricane see ante that pushed him over the top. and ron and nicole did not like valery garett. i'm sure he had other pieces to. like the sun is hot. to wait to meet at kennedy nation with cash to a "topical storm". maybe tonight i will surprise you. talking about vaccines and politicians. stay with us. every truck can tow a boat. every truck can climb a hill. every truck can haul a trailer. but not everyone can say they're the fastest-growing truck brand... in america. guts. glory. ram. kennedy: i am kennedy. the nation is still talking about vaccines as rand paul and chri

that was the same with syria that was clinton and panetta and all represented help.ut the president and the small advisors don't. >> it is an idea logical belief that the united states tends to meddle over broad. it has been going on for a year now and diplomacy failed from the beginning. >> what about angela merkel. talk to us. >> it is a pasifist country and a ro manticism of relations of russia and war guilt from world war ii and doesn't want to see german weapons used against russia soldiers and a lot of anti- americanism in germany that is bred by edward snowden. and you can see they ably and smartly used by the russian and snowden is in moscow and that is used to stir up anti- american attitudes and any sort of talk of germans uniting with the west and opposing russia they see that as cold war talk and black and white. and germans want to be in the middle between russia and america and not pick sides. >> what you are touching on is ideology held by the president here in the united states. and what about the facts on the ground and what needs to be done to preve

director what it is that they're getting to see, they prepare this summary for the director leon panetta and buy a mistake apparently the summary winds up being loaded onto the senate computers and then they say, this is amazing because basically here are the notes and summaries done and they are trying exactly the same conclusions that we are talking about the documents which is not surprising because we were just describing these documents. that is bottom line no actionable intelligence was ever collected from the use of these aggressive techniques and so that is an accurate summary of the internal codes. then we get a real catfight between cia and the senate staff over this report. with members saying that they must have stolen it there's no other way they could possibly have gotten this document and that's quite obvious how they got theirs. but the golden rule of the cia is that they never made mistakes or errors and that is excluded immediately from consideration. they break into the senate computers to try to retrieve it at this point but the staff says that they are trying to caus

congressman trey gowdy, revealing a who's who list that includes susan rice david petraeus, leon panetta, jay carney, general mike martin and general martin dempsey. my next guest says you don't get on benghazi if you don't invade libya. there is evidence that secretary clinton was pushing hard for that invasion. joining us now, former congressman fox news contributor, dennis kucinich. good to see you. >> thanks, lou. >> the news that trey gowdy called this list of insiders that's got to be encouraging to everyone who wants to know what actually happened. your thoughts. >> you know it would be an opportunity for the american people to gain insight into the decision-making process and the people who were right in the middle of that discussion whether or not to go war against libya. so i think it's very important that chairman gowdy proceeds with this. lou: and proceeding as he does with some of the people in the administration former officials as well. do you think that they will, for the most part be forthcoming or reticent? >> i think that everyone will want to tell their story as best

. >> leon panetta disagrees with that assessment, listen up. >> i think the president has the right pieces in place to confront isis, and obviously made important gains in trying to stop their effort to gain additional territory in iraq. >> reporter: boehner said he will let all relevant committees on the house debate the authorization of force and we'll not see congress sign this thing for a couple of weeks or months. it is now a sign of urgency. jenna, back to you. >> doug, thank you. new information today out of the american sniper murder trial. defendant eddy ray routh charged with the shooting death of chris kyle and his friend chad littlefield. major developments are expected today on a ruling whether the defendant's confession will be played on video in court. casy has more outside of stephenville texas. >> reporter: we are still waiting for that. the court went in recess. the videotape shoes eddy ray routh confessing to the murders when he was questioned by the authorities specifically the texas rangers. the tape has been shown in a pretrial hearing, but there is a question of whet

. >> according to leon panetta's account it was leon panetta it -- who was the driver of that decision>> she is a supremely cautious person. no question about that. the military really like her. they have -- she is their girl. i have had the opportunity to observe this and she gets along extremely well with the brass. now, whether she is also a person who is constantly learning from her mistakes and in constant development. so, she is not going to replay i do not think, the iraq war decision if, god forbid, we have another such vote. >> remember you and a lot of people who supported it were doing it based on false information. strong, pulse information. >> i wish there was a more comforting excuse. because there were a lot of people who got the call right. the same thing applies to her choosing people which is one of the most important jobs of president has. again, it is an open question. i am not saying she would do a bad job but in the past, she sometimes has chosen people for their loyalty rather than for their talent. not always but sometimes. >> this has been a real problem with t

. >> according to leon panetta's account it was leah -- leon panetta it was, that was the driver. >> she is a supremely cautious person. no question about that. the military really like her. she is there -- their girl. i have had the opportunity to observe this and she gets along extremely well with the brass. whether she is also a person who is constantly learning from her mistakes and in constant development. she is not going to replay, i do not think, the iraq war decision if, god forbid, we have another such vote. >> remember you and a lot of people who supported her were doing it -- supported it were doing it based on false information. >> there were a lot of people who got the call right. the same thing applies to her choosing people which is one of the most important jobs of president has. it is an open question. i am not saying she would do a bad job but in the past, she sometimes has chosen people for their loyalty rather than for their talent. not always but sometimes. >> this has been a real problem with the obama administration is that there has not been a real reaching o

you think about all the defense secretaries who left and the criticisms in the books, whether it's panetta or gates, is he even listening? does he have his own agenda? >> no, i think he's listening more to joe biden and john kerry which have -- please allow me to classify them as like heckle and jekyll. neither one of them i think has a clue what's going on here, and it's very clear that -- i know many of these military leaders, and i just -- i find it)l incomprehensible that theyu woud be givingfcmzi'c the presiden to do what he's doing today. they want a strategy. they want to see a strategy that leads them to victory. the big "v." victory. i know they're frustrated because there isn't one. >> wow. all right. general boykin, thanks so much for being with us this evening. >> thank you, judge. >>> all right. joining me now, retiredm u.s. marine, familiar with the:e al assad air base, nick powers. all right. good evening, nick. you were actually stationed at this very base where we've got, i think it's 320 marines. what is it like? is there azç2pÑi fortress there? how vulnerable are our t

so i would flip through travel guides in the library's school in bookstores or the secretary panetta kind of travel guide of america and very but i would come across the great state of colorado. and without fail, always one of the first things that would be listed at a call is that it is the highest state in the union. little did i don't by the time i would make it to colorado, that would come to have taken on shall we say enhanced meaning. [laughter] i still remember vividly my very first encounter, real encounter with colorado. it was on my first trip to the united states, and i was in the san francisco behind enemy lines in the people republic of austin. now, for those of you who have been to austin, let me tell you that there is so much to choose from. you've got the soft left, the sentiment and the crazy out of their lives. there's a list i like to call diversity. anyway, here i was the middle of summer meandering down sixth street, perspiring producers browse president obama might on the golf course. my throat is parched and am looking for a drink. what happens? i stumbled acro

. >> former defense secretary and cia director leon panetta says the white house made mistakes in thes fight. >> presidents make mistakes but they also learn from the mistakes. i think the president has learned from those mistakes. it will take time. i am more hopeful about the effort in iraq. i think ultimately we will have a pretty good chance of being able to push isis back out of iraq. the big question mark in my mind is syria. >> he says isis is the biggest threat in security is on capitol hill. >> you want to know what the biggest national security threat is to this country right now? it's the total dysfunction in washington. they can't resolve the issue of homeland security, they can't deal with budgets and immigration reform, infrastructure and other issues. if they wind up not being able to deal with the war authorization that sends a terrible message to the world. >> the northeast in a deep freeze millions facing windchills well below zero. >> boston still digging out after being buried under another foot of snow there. our friends in the south bracing for a dangerous mix of

interview a host of high ranking obama administration officials including defense secretary leon panettational security adviser susan rice and secretary of state hillary clinton. a government watchdog has found more problems at the irs. the agency hired more than 300 employees it already had records and bad behavior. some of these former irs workers falsified forms and gained unauthorized access to taxpayer information. and requiring staff members working with children under 15 months to be vaccinated against measles. a kindergarten learning center in chicago had a diagnosis. and so can you forget the super bowl halftime show the one where katy perry was performing with the offbeat not so coordinated dancing sharks? the left shark has gone from being a viral sensation to being at the center of a legal battle with katy perry's team. a man began to sell his models for $24.99 online with a 3-d printer. katy perry's people were not happy with this and they demanded that the site be taken down. twenty now is a windy patrick and mark konkle. >> can you copyright a sharks? >> apparently you can

two of your predecessors, secretary gates and secretary panetta have securely criticized the micromanagementf the defense department and overcentralization of the foreign defense policy. >> well, mr. carter agreed to work with members on national security and would be a stickler for the chain of command. we'll be right back. >>> welcome back to "hardball." >>> welcome back to "hardball." well, the country of jordan vowed to wage a relentless war against isis after the horrific video showed a captured jordanian pilot being burned to death while trapped in a cage. the latest atrocity by the islamic state was met with revulsion and outrage across the arab world. jordan immediately promised a response. they executed a woman, an attempted suicide bomber. influential religious leaders have spoken out. the top muslim authority in egypt and revered for sunnis for punishing fighters. thank you both for joining me. david, you're here. angry over atrocities, whether it's beheading, we all feel it, we feel it for three or four days and then we go back to the policy that made sense over time. will the jo

. >> reporter: panetta said he backs powers to fight islamic militants. president obama is seeking a three-year authorization for use of force. it includes the flexibility to conduct ground combat operations in limited circumstances such as rescue operations or the use of special operations forces to take military action against extremist leadership >> an alleged plot to kill dozens of people in canada. the target was the halifax shopping center. one of the busiest places in the city. a 23-year-old american woman and 23-year-old canadian face charges of conspiracy to commit murder. both were arrested early friday morning at the hal fox international airport. police say crimestoppers tipped them off and the tip led them to a home where they found another person that committed suicide as police moved in. they also found three rifles. >> what i can tell you, this appeared to be a group of murderous misfits that were living here, preparing to wreak havoc and mayhem on our community. >> the planned attack does not appear to be motivated by terrorism. >> >> wal

he has served no fewer than 11 secretaries of defense from leon panetta to chuck hagel included.he has four times and awarded the department's distinguished service medal as well as the defense intelligence metal and is assistant secretary looked into mr. hughes had sentimental and removing stockpiles from former soviet states of ukraine kazakhstan and belarus. as undersecretary of defense acquisition technology and logistics you was renowned for breaking log jams. we talked about this at some length when we met in my office a few weeks ago and how can we continue i asked him to reform dod so we will be able to rise to the occasion of today's challenges. as part of the discussion i was pleased to hear his appreciation for the department of defense's organic industrial base especially one near and dear to my heart the arsenal in illinois. he recalled the experience in afghanistan. as ash carter try to bring our troops body armor and armored humvees they needed to hit and he recalled working along with great employees dedicated employees as they deliver the necessary lifesaving equ

finally this, two things, one about your firm, and my last question about the overall picture -- we on panetta, bob gates, lots of other people of respected intelligence with high positions in government in the national security field have said time after time, the thing that worries me more than any other threat is dysfunction in washington. is that alarming to you? larry: i'm almost numb by how dysfunctional washington is. i'm not alarmed anymore because i am numb. i think this country would be so much better if we had a productive washington. i think our economy would be growing at 4% if we had a more productive washington if we had proper immigration policy. we are educating 800,000 students, and most of whom we kick out. they are going to get educated here, and they have a good history of being a good citizen. why don't we let them stay here? we don't have an infrastructure policy. we have the worst infrastructure policy in the world. i'm focused on infrastructure investing in india. i'm focused on infrastructure investing in mexico and other countries. i just can't focus in the united st

i actually prefer the honesty that we've seen from people like leon panetta others that haven't been come out and tell the truth. axelrod knows better. he's a bright guy. i'm surprised that he can actually say with a straight face that there have been no major scandals. i mean this is an administration that has been replete with scandals, and that is going to be a problem for hillary clinton because if obama's wearing the pants, she's the belt. >> nice. >> yeah. i like that? >> very nice. >> i liked the applause at the end. wasn't that great applause? >> he's selling a book. that's what he's doing. he sat down with o'reilly, made a couple of comments about obama's pushing back on evolving on gay marriage and those types of things. he's u.s. being outrageous to sell a book. this is what they seem to like to do. look, the left really doesn't think these are scandals, though. i was reading a piece this morning from msnbc, and they're literally quoting some of the things that we said at this table and saying -- >> again? >> yeah. we're ginning up and manufacturing the story when there is

if you look at the secretaries of defense, bob gates, leon panetta and now chuck hagel, all of them haveresident for his weak and ineffective foreign policy. my concern is not that we need to authorize military force. my concern is that the president doesn't have the fortitude to actually do what needs to be done. >> and you know what is interesting, you know, when you think about benghazi and the four americans, you know, the issue cross authority order, stand down and all of that still spinning around in a lot of people. but you were in washington the day that king abdullah heard or saw the video of this jordanian pilot being burned alive. what was his reaction? >> well, there were two takeaways i had that from meeting and it was a very good and informative meeting. number one is that king abdullah intended to respond decisively, that it was going to be very aggressive and very harsh. and what he asked from us is that we give him the leeway, the flexibility, to do what needs to be done to protect his own country. number two, he talked a lot about sustainability. he has the infrastructu