[laughter] secretary panetta: look, there was no pause button. there were no discussions with the press. that event took place. the press was made aware. they knew that the attack was taking place, and they published whatever they wanted to publish on the effort. -- on the issue. there was no effort to try to impact in any way the press and how they reported on that incident. please believe that. i mean, there's enough screwy stories going around already. don't believe that. yes, sir. >> the prosecution question. secretary panetta mentioned if somebody has disclosed classified information, there probably should be repercussions. but is there any grave -- edward snowden, david trias, edward stirling -- are these all the same? and if they're different who makes the decision for what is allowable and what is not? is that the president? is that the attorney general? does nobody make that decision? secretary panetta: well, you know the justice department is the one that looks at these cases and then makes a decision as to whether or not they're going

cia directorsrmer michael panetta and -- leon panetta and michael hayden take part in a discussion on freedom of the press and national security. 's issuext, c-span spotlight on police in race relations. >> some headlines from recent weeks. in "the new york times" obama faces growing expectations on race and policing. talks --ill," obama obama calls for continued talks on race. headline of your stor

leon e panetta is the cofounder of the panetta institute for public policy and former secretary of defense. his long and distinguished public service career has spanned united states army, united states house of representatives, the office of management, president clinton chief of staff, director of central intelligence and the 23rd secretary of defense. our moderator is a staff writer at the new yorker. the author of seven books of nonfiction and a two-time winner of the pulitzer prize for he has been a reporter, foreign correspondent, senior editor managing editor and the dean of columbia orissa graduate school of journalism. please join me in welcoming our panelists and a moderator. [applause] >> thank you all for being here. looking for to this discussion. no one appears congenitally shy so i'm hoping all of you can ignore me and ask each other questions. have a lot of ground to cover and a lot of lively subjects. let's start with the basics and then towards the end of the conversation i want to move into the world we are in now, the digital age, age of social media which creates a who

panetta is the cofounder of the panetta institute for public policy and former secretary of defense. his long and distinguished public service career has spanned united states army, united states house of representatives, the office of management, president clinton chief of staff, director of central intelligence and the 23rd secretary of defense. our moderator is a staff writer at the new yorker. the author of seven books of nonfiction and a two-time winner of the pulitzer prize for he has been a reporter, foreign correspondent, senior editor managing editor and the dean of columbia orissa graduate school of journalism. please join me in welcoming our panelists and a moderator. [applause] >> thank you all for being here. looking for to this discussion. no one appears congenitally shy so i'm hoping all of you can ignore me and ask each other questions. have a lot of ground to cover and a lot of lively subjects. let's start with the basics and then towards the end of the conversation i want to move into the world we are in now, the digital age, age of social media which creates a whol

she didn't get -- you heard panetta when you pressed him. she didn't get indicted. okay. is that the bar? the fbi director said she was extremely careless. more e-mails are coming out. interest issues. but the question is whether or not trump can effectively keep the message on hillary. >> can he do it? >> that's the big question. so far, he's shown no ability to do it. i thought the e-mails are so telling. what we heard from the clinton foundation is all these big d donors chip in because it's like giving to the red cross or amnesty international. no, there's you would have someone asking for meetings and other favorers. that's wildly inappropriate by any measure. >> we're going to end. we're starting with you, rich. we asked you all to do a little home work. we have done this before, if the election were held today, what would the map look like? let's go around and see. >> right this minute, and it can change, right this minute, it would be a complete debacle for donald trump. winning is iowa. the cleanest path is holding the romney states, winning florida, ohio, and pe

panetta getting wrong. >> he acts as if this is a. matter of some e-mails that got lost. there are two big things here, number one, did she break the law? the answer is, yes, she broke in the law. you just don't move on from somebody who is going going to be president thereof united states who knowingly, willingly broke the law in the map sher handled classified materials. the second issue is this. can you trust a person who not only broke the law but then lied to congress about it as well as lied to the american people about it. when i hear secretary panetta say, let's just move on, that's like saying -- >> no big issue. >> -- a guy got murdered, but he is already dead so let's just move on. what's the difference? this is insane to say that. >> but they point out, she didn't get indicted. she has gone the clean bill of health from the fbi. critics said, of course didn't get indicted. that would after all be the president effectively indicting hit own administration, governor? >> there was no clean bill of health. if you heard the exchange between trey gowdy and fbi direc

you will hear from former cia directors leon panetta and retired general michael hayden the newformer editor of york times and washington post. this event was held at the george w. bush presidential center in dallas. >> our next panel is the right to know versus the responsibility to protect. difference.the leonard downie junior is the professor of journalism at arizona state university. he was executive editor of the washington post of 1991 to 2008. during his 17 years as executive editor of the washington post, won 25 pulitzer prizes. michael hayden is part of the premier global advisory firm. he served as the director of central intelligence from 2007-2000 nine. he was responsible for overseeing all information concerning the plants, contingents and capabilities of america's adversaries reducing timely analysis for decision makers and conducting covert operations to thwart terrorists and other enemies of the states. an author,on is lecturer, and teacher. she spent 17 years in the senior the turtle positions with the new york times. managing editor and executive editor. before joini

panetta had a meeting saying it was a terrorist attack and then came out with video, video, video, videoly to try to spin that away from the truth. do you think this shares that situation? >> it certainly seems like it. you know, i do remember that testimony from general handler. i asked him did the military ever cause this a demonstration that was caused by a video, and he said no, general dempsey and least on panetta were on the way to the white house to inform that it was a terrorist taeg. i always considered the military to be a sanctuary of integrity. as an iraq war veteran, i looked at our military to be the place for integrity and now we're seeing mr. isthere is a complet breakdown in this process about that. >> i hope you get the answers those questions with this troubling situation. we're up against the clock and i thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> well, that does it for us. we're back in three hours at 34:00 with the latest. >> and we'll be here at 6:00 p.m. eastern, too. a big long day. stay with us. in a world that'o turn you into someone new... ...one hair color wan

i mean, leon panetta was this way and bob gates. charlie: they were different. mike: yes. yes.ncredibly impressed me they would go to what they thought was the best thing even though it was at odds with the bureaucratic views of their own department. charlie: bob gates said one of the best qualities was a temperment and b, they listened. he said every good president he knew was a good listener. mike: the questions she asked and how carefully she answered them and how the answers were reflected in her views as the conversation moved forward. and she was calm and she was collected and she was tough. i thought she was the toughest person in the room in terms of -- charlie: in terms of what she advocated? mike: toughest in terms of -- toughest in terms of understanding that for diplomacy to be effective that there had to be a belief on the part of the adversary that you were willing and able to use force if necessary. she understands that. she understands that diplomacy, without that, cannot be effective. charlie: he uses force with charlie: he uses force with drones and against os

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. >> that was former defense secretary leon panetta with george stephanopoulos. tum cain will today and fayetteville tomorrow. he'll go to the botanical guard and talk an the vision for the economy. today to prepare for his visit, they'll hold a sign-making party at 5:30. >>> when he's here in central north carolina he will not need that jacket. take it off. >> it's going to be very hot. that's exactly right. we're actually looking at another heat advisory. but right now we are seeing the there. it is going to be a pretty nice sunrise. pretty clear conditions as we do start off our monday morning. no rain to worry about. look at. this our satellite radar composite showing those dry conditions not only for the triangle and the fayetteville area but all across central north carolina. let's get straight to those temperatures. 77 here in raleigh. 74 in durham. roxboro, south hill. 73 in henderson. we have 76 in fayetteville and 76 in rocky mount. so let me walk through your day hour by hour. 83 by 10 a.m. still looking at pretty sunny conditions. 90 at noon and we re

i mean, leon panetta was this way, bob gates was this way, right. >> rose: they were different than the bureaucratic bureau, state or defense. >> it impressed me, right they would go to what they thought was the best thing for their countryn't if it was at odds with the bureaucratic view of their own, their own department. >> rose: bob gates said the other day that one of the central qualities of president he respected was a temperament and b they listened. every good president he knew was a good listener. >> i saw that over and over again and i saw it in just the questions that she asked and how carefully she answered them and how those answers reflected in her views as the conversation moved forward, right. and she was calm and she was collected. and she was tough. i thought she was the toughest person in the room. in terms of -- >> rose: in terms of what she advocated. >> yes, yes. toughest in terms of, toughest in terms of -- >> rose: her analysis. >> no, no. toughest in terms of understanding that, and i put this in the up said. toughest in terms of understanding that for diplomacy

you know, i was-- worked with her for four years, leone panetta, david petraeus worked with her for four years, we trusted her word. we trusted her judgement. you know, director panetta, director pat rayus, i, provided her with some of the most sensitive information at the cia collects. she never gave us one reason to doubt how she was handling that. you know, she spoke to us, communicated with us forth rightly, you know. when she agreed with us she told us. when she disagreed, she told us. she didn't play bureaucratic games. when she promised to do something on our behalf, she delivered. you know, i saw her make judgements in the sit room about tough national security issues. i saw her think them through carefully, decisively. you know, for one person here, right, i trust her word and i trust her judgement. >> rose: thank you for coming. michael morell. the book is called the great war of our times. cia's fight against terrorism from al-qaeda to isis. i also want to say from this broadcast and this table, we have invited donald trump to come here, many, many, many times. we hope he will

. >> rose: leon panetta as well. panetta had that as well. >> rose: i think kazir khan, a muslim-american whose son was killed, that was an emotional moment. >> and when he was talking about his son, donald trump was at a rally and he was talking about bringing back water boarding and saying it should happen because i.s.i.s. cuts off heads. sand he said he would renegotiae the geneva convention. it was a marked contrast between what was going on the stage between donald trump bringing out the u.s. constitution and then talking about waterboarding. even though he's been criticize bid nearly even on that. >> rose: if donald trump is elected president you get the impression the first hundred days are going to be spent renegotiating all of america's agreements. >> and you have the reality that both these nominees are about to start receiving their classified intelligence briefings next week and people in the intelligence community are concerned about doing the briefings for trump because they're afraid he'll go out -- >>

. >> and leon panetta got shouted down. >> i caused trouble in this. >> you are worried about this president. >> evil. >> we haven't had a ego mania like this. >> president obama? >> i am jonna andin am here to win because we don't win anymore. >> you guys have a problem with trump in >> not that we have a problem with trump. look at who they gave us to pick from. >> that is evil. >> more evil than hillary. snshg hillary evil two. >> she is a pand perring person is her favorite things are yours. >> and something to carry with us. >> you ought to see. >> hillary has a problem with the the truth, you think that is an be issue for you guys? >> you you are yelling at a female officer trying to make sure everyone is simmering down. >> i don't know what you are talking about. >> no, i am not. >> that was not nice. >> i don't know what you are talking about. >> what are you guys doing out here today. >> representing black lives matter. >> does my life matter? >> all lives matter. >> all lives matter. >> all lives matter. even the police lives matter. >> you have the best hair in the entire protest.

prior to the reception today, the former president will attend a event in pebble beach hosted by leon panetta alert has gone out to merchants of a man who has gone to at least 14 businesses in the inner richmond to complain about food he says he bought. he then demands a refund or something necessary return. on tuesday, the suspect went to nourish cafe at 6th avenue and california street. >> the story was changing, the reason was changing. he said it was too dry, then there was a hair, and he was just making it up. >> at a local bake shop he complained about cup cakes that were not on the menu. he did get a few pieces of pizza after complaining about burnt pies. >>> the pay area is known for traffic jams, but it is rare to see one like this. >> right here you're looking at a tribe of goats blocking traffic on concord avenue. there was about 200 animals in all. the honging didn't make them move any fast ere. it took them about 15 minutes to get them back into their pen. the goats owner has since fixed that hole. >> happening today, it is time to limber up if you want to audition for a spot on

bill: leon panetta dismissing the thought that the people scandal is part of a bigger deal., move on, it's just politics. this is how washington work. >> i actually take a lot of issue with the former cia director acting like the extreme care le handling of classified information is something we should just move along from without any accountability. i wonder what he message he's sending to the military and the rest of the intelligence community. i'm not sure he's the best person to send out on this issue. of course, leon panetta wants the american people and the trump campaign to move forward from this, because this highlights hillary clinton's most vulnerable issue which is trustworthiness and reminding people she destroyed property that belongs to the american people. >> there is a bigger problem here. this is an election where everyone seems to have their own facts. the allegations are disproven. in this case the f.b.i. said bring no charge. the department of justice said we accept that finding. and they are upset we can't figure problems and your interview with john sun

title says manager and mission control director of buzz aldrin but he calls me mission director panetta's are accurate because i at no control and he will see that shortly laugh laugh but i guess we have to figure out where we want to star she told your whole life story should read novak to the beginning greg. >> before. >> how far? to the philippines? >> igo earlier strike that is maybe four what rethinking question met with father graduated from high-school at age 15 does that tell you anything? >> he went to clark university. there is a professor there who was robert goddard so he got a master's at m.i.t. working on his doctor's degree but that was interrupted by the last parts of world war i they wanted him to go into the coast artillery he was writing his thesis on airplanes so he got into the signal corps and got his way into flying and his first assignment which was to the philippines so that was worth that to know that. [laughter] so the first assignment was as an aide to billy mitchell civic there are a few old people here. >> ask your neighbor but that is where the army chaplain

. >> what did leon panetta, chief of staff say? >> don't even bother to come home. >> were there any repercussions when he got home? >> you know, i got close to being fire several times. that was one of them. i made it through until 97. >> was going to need a nanny for the 50th anniversary of d-day because i think i thought your thing then deservedly blamed for something that wasn't your fault. it had to do it president clinton using tombstones on the beach of normandy to make across. they were were suggesting that he whispered in his ear to do that. but that is not the case. >> i was telling my friend is getting ready for the 50th anniversary of normandy was the most meaningful thing i've done and and i look back at it as a wonderful, wonderful experience, mostly because i started out by looking at a vested veteran who are going to go back to normandy and call them on the phone and heard their story to write me. i also studied a lot of archival footage of writing when he went back to the 40th. i was trying to think of something th

for those speeches when general john allen was speaking in leon panetta was speaking they were holding up their can science and they were being chanted down. >> you are right that was happening and two a lot of things change when they sat are their hands are good. he wrote the civil rights movement, i was ticked off by that. kennedy: i was upset that they were chanting black lives matter's during a moment of silence for fallen police officers. >> what you think the media's reaction would have been every time donald trump's name was mentioned he was booed. the media would be having a field day with this. you don't see it on the tv but that's their choice. kennedy: they would have shown a protest going on outside as they were in philadelphia. when there weren't a lot of drud it's going to be boring in philly. you are processing every day. fox business was the only channel that showed those protesting give an honest view of what was happening inside and outside. we have so much more with the panel coming up including donald trump finding out why he thinks hillary clinton is using football

director panetta and director petraeus and i provided her with some of the most sensitive informationa. she never gave us one reason to doubt how she was handling that. , communicateds with us forthrightly. when she agreed with us, she told us. which he disagreed, she told us. she did not play bureaucratic games. when she said to do something on our behalf, she delivered. i saw her make judgments about tough issues, i saw her think them through decisively. here, i trust her word in a trust her judgment. charlie: thank you for coming. michael morel. say from this broadcast and this table, we have invited donald trump to come here many, many, many times. we hope he will come. he has an open invitation to sit at this table. to people who advise him and would like to write an editorial saying that the worst thing that could happen would be for hillary clinton to be president and that they would like to see donald trump resident. this is an important election. -- it is important for us to understand what the stakes are. we all need to address it. there are also questions of national securi

this is something that has been reiterated by someone like leon panetta who has said on record president obama leaving iraq left a vacuum for isis. >> that's a fair -- >> that's reiterated by his own defense secretary. >> that's a fair charge. hui hi hui witt gave him the opportunity. >> he said it at least seven times so why did he not just say that at some point, what lisa just said. why didn't he in those other times just explain that. that's not what he did. then he said it was sarcasm. so i feel like the people who want to clean up his mess are saying that's what he meant, but he's not saying that. >> let me read you a tweet that i showed you before we came on the air. the real donald trump account on twitter. it's a disgusting and corrupt media covered me honestly and didn't put false meaning into the words i say, i would be beating hillary by 20%. >> yeah. well, so i sat on this set and said that i thought the media was hard on trump many months ago. i cannot sit there today and say that anyone's being hard on him in this situation. he has -- >> not being hard on him or you're say

so let's move on. >> i mean, i have the utmost respect for leon panetta, i covered him when he was onf the new york stock exchange, but unfortunately for him, this issue's going to keep dogging hillary clinton. listen, they may not, as ebony said, people may not understand every nuance, but there's a reason why donald trump still could win this thing. as horrible of a campaign that he's running, just the most pathetic, you know, all over the place campaign, you know? he shoots himself in the foot once a day, yet hillary clinton e. particularly in battleground states. why is that? because people don't trust her. i've done a lot of reporting on this, i've gotten pretty good leaks coming from people that know what the fbi believes. fbi agents on the ground have said that there's credible evidence to indict her both on the e-mail stuff, the national security, how she handled that with the private server and in terms of connections with the clinton foundation. now, the chief of the fbi said, no, because of technical reasons. the doj shut it down. but that doesn't mean those e-mails and tho

there's people there that i can talk about leon panetta in my book. that was a guy that i wish would have run for president. there were other people there. i don't despise george stephanopoulos be the. i thought he was a decent guy. i thought he was a very intelligent guy. i just didn't agree with his political leanings. but when you work for the secret service, i'm talking politics not because i'm out and about this book, but back then the american public elected to protect the and we protected him. i didn't really get wrapped up in politics except for, and i tell you one quick story. when president clinton was going to sign the assault weapons ban and i was working that night, and into doubt the oval office and abroad all the cameras in, equipment like this, and the staff was in the end they're all excited, and the chief of staff walked up to me and said come on in, you can watch and sign. unlike know, good. thank you. you said, it's all right. >> it's not really appropriate for me to go into. i had to stand out here. >> it will be all right spent i

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. >> leon panetta. >> not monday, tuesday and wednesday. >> and shouted down. >> i caused trouble atention. roll the tape. ♪ >> are you worried about trump as president? >> straight evil. >> evil? >> evil. >> we haven't had an egomaniac like this in my lifetime. ascend so high so fast. >> since obama? >> my name is donald j. trump and i'm here to win. we don't win anymore. >> you have a problem with trump? >> not that we have a problem with trump. it is just that lock at who they gave us to pick from. >> they have that much hate is evil. >> more hate than hillary? >> hillary evil, too. >> she is not just pandering person when's favorite things are your favorite things. >> what is something you carry with you? >> hot sauce. >> really? >> yeah. >> how are you? >> i'm good. how are you? >> hillary has a problem with the truth. do you think that's an issue for you guys? ♪ >> you're yelling at a female officer? she was just trying to make sure everyone was simmering down? >> i don't know what you're talking about? >> you know what i'm talking about. >> no. >> that wasn't very nice. >> i d

you will hear from leon panetta and retired general michael hayden, and the former editors of the newk times and washington post. this event was held at the george w. bush presidential center in dallas. the right to know versus the responsibility to protect. difference.the leonard downie junior is the professor of journalism at arizona state university. he was executive editor of the washington post of 1991 to 2008. during his 17 years as executive editor of the washington post, the paper

leon panetta, the former secretary of defense. ambassador mark langdale. thank you for your service. [applause] it is important to recognize great contributions that help tell the past and shape the future. here's the bush center, we think about that every day. the mission of the bush center is to motivate and develop leaders. we try to foster policy and take action. we do that around key areas like economic growth and human freedom and democracy. we understand that our job here is to use the power of this platform to convene and amplify and make an impact on very important issues of the day. you serve that purpose in my role is to help build connections between those communities. dallas, smu, the united states and the world. it is a fantastic task. when we study the past, the presidents have a lot to do with it. we are honored to have some of the most esteemed voices join in telling and describing the history of what the presidency and the press are all about. as president bush said, a strong press is not something that we talk about only in emerging econ

is that president obama last a vacuum for isis something that has been reiterateed by someone like panetta who said on record that president obama leaving iraq left the vacuum for isis. >> that is a fair --. >> by his own defense second. that is a fair charge, it gave him the opportunity to say, no, no, i am saying the founder of isis. >> i can see that. >> but he said it seven times so why did he not just say that, why not in other times just explain that? it is not what he did. and he said it was sarcasm? the people who want him to clean up the mess are say that is what he meant but he is not saying that. all the real donald trump account, on twitter, a disgusting and corrupt media covered me honestly and no false meaning in the words i say i would be beating hillary clinton by 20%. >> yes. i sat on this set and said i thought the media was hard on donald trump. many months ago. i cannot say there is a day and say anyone is being hard on him in this situation. >> hard or saying it is unjustified? >> unfairly hard. maybe they were going overboard but when he said what he is trying to say

first leon panetta and then at the democratic convention.ever you thought about the strategic value of disrupting the convention during those speeches, that chant "no more war" isn't usually a controversial chant at a democratic event. so there's a little discomfort around there. and there's robust discussion about whether or not the republican nominee, donald trump is the kind of person who should be trusted with the nuclear codes, or with the ability to send america troops into war. on the democratic side, the issue of the wars is raised in an interesting way by hillary clinton's choice of tim kaine. he's not a particularly controversial figure. he's a person over the course of his political career has made way more friends than enemies. he doesn't pick fights. but the one big fight he picked is over wars and that we don't have political debates about the use of military force. >> today marks the completion of nine months of america's war against isis. tomorrow, may 8th, starts the tenth month of this war. here's what hasn't happened, mr.

. >> even leon panetta at least echoed in the sense, failure to solidify status of forces agreement hass. to most of the points, the indictment against the barack obama administration and hillary clinton, whether the economy, seeing 1.2% economic growth or terrorism, you fact that you look at libya, the failed russia reset and iran deal. look what is going on with is sis in syria and iraq, the indictment is so strong. strum trump has to stay on message but he hasn't. hillary clinton is the status quo but you can trust me to make the right decisions. you can trust me to be commander-in-chief. there is question for voters, particularly on the temperment issue. harris: that specifically reaches out to independents, from what i'm hearing you say. sandra: from what you see congressman, is he refining his strategy? is he, a lot of questions about his tone and way he is addressing people and using teleprompter? have you seen a different donald trump in recent weeks? >> oh, in recent days anyway, yes, again, what he has to realize, i've been with him several times and he is totally calm, collec

and his security team came to him in 2012 -- i'm talk about sects clinton, secretary panetta, cia directorayus, and recommended to him strongly we robustly arm the syrian mad rots. -- moderates. he refused. he established the redline and the red line was use of chemical weapons. assad used them and it was verified. any one of those two executions, would have put that regime in jeopardy and hopefully brought this killing to an end. here we stand, 400,000 dead, 11 million people displaced from their homes, four million of them have become refugees and so may have contributed to the huge migration taking place in europe, the greatest since world war ii. yes, u.s. policy in syria is an abject failure and is contributed to the human catastrophe that is unfolding in front of our eyes. >> jeff, is it the russians and assad who are directly responsible for that young man that we just saw on our screens? >> of course. the 400,000 dead the wounded, if the russians -- it is the iranians, and certainly assad, and it's u.s. policy that has indirectly contributed to what we're seeing here. i'm not sugge

optimistic picture of isis than the second one is when and how will people be held -- >> hasn't leon panettathat question? the former cia chief? he says president obama is surrounded -- paraphrasing what he said -- by a lot of these political types that put pressure on the bureaucrats that are trying to do their job. the only caveat here is this: george w. bush wanted to invade iraq. we know that for a lot of reasons. be -- was a that prism of his wanting to do that and some of his advisers also believing in that, looking at all the information of weapons of mass destruction through that prism, did that force him to go too aggressively into that country? this is bipartisan. happens in every administration. kennedy: there's no doubt about it but, again, it doesn't justify what's going on. and you saw pete hegseth and general keane on this channel say that it can compromise not only intelligence, but american lives. melissa: meanwhile, donald trump blasting president obama and hillary clinton for their handling of radical islamic terror threats, saying this: >> in many respects, you know, they

also leon panetta, former secretary of defense and head of the cia.oth spoke at the democratic convention, both of them endorsing hillary clinton. and today, clinton got another interact security endorsement. this one with a different tenor, though. this is mike morel, served as the acting director of the cia under president obama. served as a senior officer for the cia under george w. bush. in fact, he's the guy who briefed george w. bush during the 9/11 attacks. and today he wrote this op-ed in the "new york times." he said, i ran the cia and now i'm endorsing hillary clinton. but just look at what he said. he spent his whole life working in the cia and he said, in this article, quote, i'm neither a registered democrat nor a registered republican. in my 40 years of voting i've pulled the lever for candidates of both parties. as a government official i've always been silent about my preference for president. the dangers that flow from their trump's character are not just risks that would emerge if he became president. it is already damaging our natio