i'll get reaction from leon panetta. rex tillerson is in moscow for talks about the krem llin suppo for syria. how tough will tillerson get? >>> spoiling for a fight. north korea threatens the launch of nuclear attack if provoked as u.s. warships move closer and president trump warns kim jong-un to stop making trouble. are other leaders on a collision course? high priced travel. we have a cost of the president's frequent trips to palm beach. will he spend more on travel in one year than president obama spent in eight years. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in t"te situation room". >> this is cnn breaking news. >> breaking news tonight, president trump addressing fears that u.s. strike in syria might lead to a full scale war declaring the new interview that we are not going into syria. this as defense secretary james mattis says there is no doubt the assad regime planned, orchestrated and executed the gruesome chemical take that prompted president trump to order the missile strike. right now, secretary of state rex tillerson is i

joining me now is leon panetta. the former director o of the cia, and chief of staff for president bill clinton. now the chairman of the panetta institute for public policy in monterey. thank you so much. leon. let's talk about north korea first of all. what do you expect we all are sort of on high alert because of the way that north korea marks anniversaries that are important in their culture like the founder's birthday. >> no question this is a tinderbox. has been for a long time, but we're at a time when there is a potential for provocation. with the testing of this nuclear weapon. and, you know, the words from the administration are creating even higher volume in terms of the provocations that are going on. i think we have to be careful here. this is, you know, we should not engage in any precipitous action. there is a reason no other president has pulled the trigger on north korea. you have 20 million people in seoul, that would be a target. we have a potential for a nuclear war that would take millions of liv

panetta runs the panetta institute for public policy, a non-partisan center of cal state monterey bay. you can tune in to tonight's 7 on ktvu plus and our 10:00 news for more on this interview. panetta and ken way will discuss a number of critical issues ranging from russia's involvement in the u.s. presidential election to president trump's upcoming meeting with the leader of china and how president trump could be lured into an act of war on the korean peninsula and eastern europe as well. >>> and we look forward to that story. 95 a fighter jet pilot -- a fighter jet pilot was able to eject himself today of about the jet crashed. it happened this morning. officials say the d.c. air national guard s-16 was flying with other aircraft when it crashed into a wooded area in clinton, maryland, a washington suburb about six miles southwest of joint base andrews. the pilot was the only one on board and sustained injuries, but they're not life- threatening. >> incredible. >>> and still ahead here at noon, an update to a story we first told you about yesterday. the latest on the investigation

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new runs the panetta institute for public policy, a non-partisan center at monterey bay. tune in tonight at 7 on ktv plus and the 10:00 on ktvu. they discuss a host of critical issues range to president trump's incoming leading -- meeting with the leader of china and how president trump can be lured into an act of war in the korean peninsula on eastern europe. a lot of things to talk about. >> great interviews. that would be a great interview to watch. >>> 4:17 is the time. so, how's traffic? >> we have allie here this morning which, is fabulous and you're going to do traffic tomorrow. >> i am learning the ropes and after i wrap up here, i will bug him and watch. >> that's right. >> and she is doing well. it's going to be great. meanwhile, i get to take a day off. >> not for us but for you. >> yes. >> and good morning, everybody. traffic is moving well on northbound 101. it has been a nice drive. you can see here, the road centers, when you see green, you know they're doing well. once you see red or yellow, you see more traffic. and right now, it's still looking good in t

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now is he chairman and co-founder of the panetta institute for public policy.oins us from mashville, tennessee. secretary, always good to see you. thank you so much for joining us. >> nice to be with you. >> what do you think the secretary of state needs to achieve in his visit to moscow today? >> well, i think it's very important for him to send the kind of message that he spoke about in italy, which is that the russians have a fundamental choice here, to accept some responsibility here for what happened in syria, to try to influence assad never to do it again, to basically join the nations of the world in making sure that we don't experience another chemical attack in syria. for that to happen russia has to make a choice whether to stick with assad, iran and hezbollah or whether it's going to join with the united states in trying to promote a more peaceful world. >> mr. secretary the russians already said if force is used again they'll meet force with force and so have the iranians. have they already made that choice? >> charlie in the world of foreign policy

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sticking with politics, back with former defense secretary and cia director leon panetta.ake news peddlers are currently targeting french presidential candidate emmanuel macron. do you suspect russia might be behind it? >> i'd be very surprise federal they weren't behind it. the problem, jake, is that cyber is the battlefield of the future and we're seeing it now with what russia tried to do in using cyber attacks to influence our election. they have learned how effective that can be, and now they are using the same tactics in france, and they will ruse it in germany. they will use it in other elections. they have found a weapon that they thing can be very effective at trying to influence what voters do. >> and what can be done to combat it? i mean, in a lot of these countries it's free speech. they are using our own freedoms against us. >> no, absolutely. by using fake news, by using these kinds of cyber attacks, hacking, what they are trying to do is with false news try to influence how people react to certain candidates and how they cast their vote. it's very disruptive

i think leon panetta's judgment of him or grading of him is pretty fair.hink he's being assessed pretty fairley. it's hard to run the country. you've got to be careful about what you say and how you say it. i'm not sure that the tweet sg helping him. even trump supporters are saying they wish he would tweet a lot less and govern a lot more. so i'm agreesing with the assessment right now. i think this has been a tough first 100 days. he has some distance to travel. i think he can succeed in some of his things, but there are some measures like the border wall that is are going to be really, really hard if he ties it to his budget. >> let's talk about that being really difficult. you mentioned the 60 items that he hasn't done yet in a hundred days. do you think make it was too much? is it difficult to do 60 items in a hundred days? are you holding him to a higher standard? >> no, i don't think so. i think we're going on what president trump said during the campaign which is we're going to win so much when i'm president that you're going to get sick of winning

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. >> in an interview last night with former secretary of defense leon panetta, here's what he told us about our options with dealing with north korea. let's watch. >> there are no good options here. you know, presidents in the past would have pulled the trigger a long time ago if there were easy options. the fact is we're dealing with a nuclear-powered nation. if we were to try to attack them, they would virtually wipe out seoul and 20 million people who live in seoul. and if it became a nuclear war, which is likely, millions of lives would be lost, and that's the reason we haven't pulled the trigger. >> you know, he's a great man, leon panetta. i've known him forever. he used the word pull the trigger, an unfortunate metaphor. the question a lot of us worry about and we talked about earlier, what happens if this guy over here gets nervous and he hears talks coming out of this country about preemptive strikes and says, well, there's my excuse. i'm going to release my artillery on seoul. this is my pretext for doing so. to me, that's scary. >> yes. so i think a lot of people right now

joining me know is leon panetta.chief of staff for president bill clinton, now chairing the panetta institute for public policy in monterey, california. thank you for being with us. there is so many crisis on the president's plate. let's start with north korea. john mccain just said it is time to really get china to deliver and he was very cautious about all of this talk about pre-emptive action. we didn't address it, but it is difficult with mobile missile launchers, the new nuclear facilities are under ground. what about pre-emptive military action or any military action giving the proximity of seoul, plus 25 million people and our own forces below the dmz. >> there is a reason why our most recent presidents have not pulled a trigger when it comes to north korea. it is because of the obvious consequences with regards to what they could do to seoul. a city of 20 to 25 million. and the fact that it could escalate into a nuclear war. that would take millions of lives as a result of that. so, it is clear that we have t

usa. >> you will hear from former defense secretary leon panetta on this matter later this morning. >tonight, representatives will hold a town hall meeting giving locals a chance to ask about policy issues under the trump administration. the meeting is scheduled for 6:30 until 8:00. >>> california's campaign watchdog is proposing hefty fines. it is a voter approved measure that legalizes recreational marijuana in the state. the commission announced fines against two campaign committees. one was the public and mental health advocates against 64, and was fined $3400 for being too slow to change advertising procedures. and, a committee against proposition 64 was fined $6000 for violations, including being late in listing the top 10 contributors. both committees agreed to the fines. >>> victims of the coyote creek flooding in san jose have to find new housing after their shelter closes. >>> concerns of a new report with vulnerability in marin to rising sea levels. >>> the stock market opened 10 minutes ago. it was down about 52 points. we are checking on that and will be right back. ,, >>

we again with what leon panetta just called a tinder box. my colleague kelly o'donnell has the latest from west palm beach, florida. and p.j. crowley, and state department spokesma and also brian bender, the national security writer and editor for politico and finally last but not least, a former ambassador to a number of countries including syria, iraq and afghanistan. and i'm sorry, finally, john finer, form he chief of staff for secretary of state john kerry. we have a lot of great minds with us today and i appreciate you all being with us. let me start with kelly. how is the u.s. preparing to respond to north korea? i mention that had we got this reporting about a possible preemptive move. what are you hearing? >> with, the latest as the day progress it'ses here from white house sources is that there is a calm at this point. they are clearly aware of the importance of the anniversary to the north korean government and saying to us that it is unsurprising that they would pews anniversary for a show of military might. they've done it so ma

for analysis and perspective, ken wayne interviewed longtime washington insider leon panetta.ed in congress, served as cia director and defense sect under president obama. he said -- secretary under president obama. this is the most divisive he has seen between republicans and democrats. >> i think that kind of partisanship is poisoning our democracy and the inability of both the president and the congress to work together to resolve the many issues facing this country. i think that is of great concern to the future of our democracy. >> panetta runs the institute for public policy. a non-partisan center at cal state monterey bay. tune in tonight at 7:00 on ktvu plus and the 10:00 news for the interview. panetta and ken will discuss a host of the critical issues, rain falling from russia's involvement in the election and president trump's upcoming meeting with the leader of china and how president trump could be lured into an act of bar war on the korean peninsula and eastern europe. >>> we're getting an inside look into one of san francisco's biggest corruption projects. -- co

this is leon panetta earlier tonight. >> the fact is we're dealing with a nuclear-powered nation. if we were to try to attack them, they would virtually wipe out seoul and 20 million people who live in seoul. and if it became a nuclear war, which is likely, millions of lives would be lost. and that's the reason we haven't pulled the trigger. the fact is we've used both containment and deterrence as a principal policy here. i think frankly in the end, that's what we're left with whether we like it or not. and frankly it was containment and deterrence that ultimately resulted in the soviet union self-destructing. >> larry, you worked in the reagan administration. that was reagan's doctrine, containment. can donald trump successfully maintain this hyperaggressive posture against north korea and this red line against isis at the same time? >> you hope so because they are totally different. north korea as secretary panetta said, they have artillery 20 to 30 miles from seoul, and they could literally, you know, with these thousands of artillery strikes wipe out 20 million people. that's

for analysis and perspective, ktvu interviewed leon panetta. he nerved -- served in congress and white house chief in the clinton administration. in his 50 years in pull politics, this is the most divisive he's seen between republicans and democrats. >> i think that is really poisoning our democracy. the inability of both the president and the congress to work together is to relovely the many issues facing this country, i think, is of great concern is to the future of our democracy. >> panetta runs the institute, the panetta institute for public policy. and tune in to tonight's 7:00 news on ktvu plus and the 10: 00 news on ktvu. he will talk with win -- with ken wane on a -- ken wayne to president trump's upcoming meeting with the leader of china and how president trump could be luredspo an act of war on the coean peninsula. >> and there is -- korean peninsula. >> a man with many roles and experience. >>> and let's check in with sal on our wednesday morning commute. >> and good morning, mike and pam. highway 24, they briefly closed it for maybe

you're hearing the secretary panetta saying it will be very unwise. i've spoken to u.s. officials today also who are sharing that point of view. they are not anxious to get into some sort of shooting war provocation or launch some preemptive strike against north korea even if there was to be some nuclear test. so, some of this might be posturing, might be a way to try and pressure china to do more, but we will see if north korea uses this day to do some sort of military action and then we'll see if this trump administration, which is also unpredictable, we always say kim jong-un is unpredictable, but this administration has proven to be not as unpredictable, but full of surprises . we'll see how it plays out. from the officials i've been talking to in the administration, i don't see the is this grt appetite for launching some sort of preemptive strike towards pyonyang. >> kelly, what are you hearing from officials there, what is the house saying about all of this? >> well, at the risk of sounding like an echo to our other guests, i am also hearing from white house offici

so welcome, secretary panetta.o the president, his team is proposing a sharp reduction of taxes both at the individual and corporate level. how much of what we heard today is realistic? >> well, you know, it has obviously been rush to judgment here as part of the 100-day in office kind of scenario. you know, i wish for a major tax reform and tax cut bill, that a little more thought went into it in terms of its various elements because this is going to take a lot of work. you have to work not only with the republicans but with the democrats on capitol hill, and work through a number of very sensitive issues. tax reform is never easy in the congress, but obviously if they take the time to negotiate this, to work with the key members on capitol hill, then there's a good chance that some kind of tax cut could be passed. >> what do you think of how they've done the first 100 days, which will be up at the end of the week, both domestically and foreign policy? he has bombed syria, he has imposed these tariffs on canada, t

bill clinton went a year and a half before he brought in leon panetta to turn his white house around.ter went 2 1/2 years before he realized he needed a white house chief of staff. if trump wants to be jimmy carter, he should continue doing exactly what he's doing, because this is a formula for failure, not empowering a white house chief of staff. >> chris whipple, great to have you on. >> thank you. >> the grim and haunting reminders, the first western reporter to reach the scene of this week's chemical attack in syria provides a chilling account of what he saw. i'll speak with limb about that tough assignment, probably the toughest he's ever had coming up. ♪ ♪ use the chase mobile app to send money in just a tap, to friends at more banks then ever before. you got next? chase. helping you master what's now and what's next. there's nothing more than my vacation.me so when i need to book a hotel room, i want someone that makes it easy to find what i want. booking.com gets it. they offer free cancellation, in case i decide to go from kid-friendly to kid-free. now i can start relaxing ev

secretary panetta, when tillerson meets with russians tomorrow, what message does he need to delivero them and with what level of forcefulness in your opinion? >> i think it needs to be a very tough message. we are the ones who have shown that we're willing to back up our word with actions. so with that targeted attack. secondly, we have the high moral ground in terms of what assad did with these chemical weapons. thirdly, we have the evidence that he was directly involved in the attack with these chemical weapons. and we know that russia had responsibility here. they're the ones to put together the agreement. they were the ones who should have confirmed that syria no longer had chemical weapons. so i think we've got the leverage. my recommendation to the secretary would be to be very tough with the russians in demanding that they do everything possible to make sure that this does not happen again in syria. >> it's interesting. you said that the strike gives the u.s. leverage in their discussions with russia now in a way they didn't have. president trump said in an interview today th

. >> former defense secretary leon panetta says north korea usually uses april 15th as a chance to takevocative actions. and this year may be no different. >>> air fares are taking a nose dive after a video of a passenger being dragged by security off an over booked flight. you probably have seen this incident left the man bloodied and bruised. united says it was trying to make room for four passengers of a partner airline. the ceo has apologized but at last check united stock was down about 3%. >>> and now here's a look at the over all picture on wall street today. the dow is down right now about 42 points. >>> still ahead claims that dogs are getting sick after visiting a san francisco park. >> these dog owners are frustrated with the rec and parks department. they want some answer from the city and they want more transparency. >> plus a bright light in the sky. hundreds of people report seeing a fire ball and one woman says she captured it on camera. we'll be right back. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, shot across the skies over parts of the southwest last night. this woman was live >>> new video of

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here is panetta. >> we've got to be careful here.s is -- we shouldn't engage in any precipitous action. there is a reason no u.s. president in recent history has pulled the trigger on north korea. you've got 20 million people in seoul that would be a target. we have the potential for a nuclear war that would take millions of lives. so i think we've got to exercise some care here. we've just given china the opportunity to engage. let's see how they do. >> so, ambassador, that's a former democratic foreign policy official making the point that trump was alluding to that clearly he is getting from somewhere that okay, china is the offramp for all this tension? >> well, ari, look what happened in mar-a-lago, or after mar-a-lago summit meeting. the president declares publicly after his meeting with president xi, i've offered president xi a better trade deal if he helps us solve the north korea problem. and then president went on the say but if they don't, we may have to act alone. now the fact of the matter is that in each of those three

. >> let's listen to what former obama cia director and defense secretary leon panetta said about thisht. >> there are no good options here. if we were to try to attack them, they would virtually wipe out seoul. and if it became a nuclear war, which is likely, millions of lives would be lost. and that's the reason we haven't pulled the trigger. >> ambassador brigety, is it possible, is there another possibility that if a weapons system was attacked in north korea from the united states, that north korea would simply take the hit, that they would just absorb the hit and not attack south korea? >> i have never heard of any analyst that follows the region that thinks that's a possibility. we have is a very mercurial regime in pyongyang, particularly under this younger rur kim jongn, who has not only demonstrated his willingness to show belligerent through mill tests but willing to kill his own kin, as we saw by a successful assassination attempt by his half-brother in kuala lumpur. we certainly have uncertainty on the leadership on both sides of this equation, uncertainty with the leaders

ahead on cbs this morning, the chief of staff leon panetta joins us to discuss syria and russia and the trump administration. >>> north korea is promising a tough response after sending an aircraft carrier. a statement calls the move outrageous. catastrophic consequences. tension are rising underscored boy recent ballistic missile launches. >> alabama governor robert bentley resigned after impeachment hearings. he was done in by a sex scandal to misdemeanor violations. those infractions emerged in an investigation of his alleged affair with a top aide. he spoke in montgomery after entering guilty pleas. >> i love our people in this state. i love this office. however i realize there are things more important than a political office. >> his successor is kay ivy who becomes alabama's second female governor. >>> justice neal gorsuch is the newest member of the u.s. supreme court. he was sworn in in a rose garden ceremony 14 months after the seat was left vacant by antonin scalia. it restores a narrow majority. >> backing company employees after a video of a passenger being pulled off a flig

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. >> in an interview last night with former secretary of defense leon panetta, here's what he told us about our options with dealing with north korea. let's watch. >> there are no good options here. you know, presidents in the past would have pulled the trigger a long time ago if there were easy options. the fact is we're dealing with a nuclear-powered nation. if we were to try to attack them, they would virtually wipe out seoul and 20 million people who live in seoul. and if it became a nuclear war, which is likely, millions of lives would be lost, and that's the reason we haven't pulled the trigger. >> you know, he's a great man, leon panetta. i've known him forever. he used the word pull the trigg trigger, an unfortunate metaphor. what happens if this guy over here kim jong-un gets nervous and he hears talks coming out of this country about preemptive strikes and says, well, there's my excuse. i'm going to release my artillery on seoul. this is my pretext for doing so. to me, that's scary. >> yes. so i think a lot of people right now are focused on whether or not north korea is goi

i think leon panetta supports that as do others. afghanistan after about 12 and a half months the president said i would like you to come back and be the head of the cia. doing that meant you had to give up your military career. gen. petraeus: i did not have to, but i chose to. i thought in fact -- the president and i talked about that when he made the decision to nominate me for that. and i agreed that that would be the best approach. i thought it was very important not to have folks think i was going to turn this place into a military headquarters. i literally showed up the first day and said i would do that. with no one but the security guards -- david: was it emotional to give up your military career at that point? gen. petraeus: it is always to take of the uniform -- always emotional to take the uniform off for the last time. it is a wonderful experience. but you have the prospect of this extraordinary new opportunity. it was very exciting. the cia is an incredible group of the men and women, the silent warriors, as we term the

here was former cia chief leon panetta. >> i think with regards to foreign affairs, he does have a strong team. think he did the right thing with regards to taking action against syria after the chemical attack. so, you know, i think generally are regards to at least foreign affairs up to this point, he probably gets a b, with regards to domestic affairs. the failure of the affordable care act. a lot of the inability to try to get things done within the congress. some of his executive orders that have run into barriers with the courts, i think he probably is getting a "d." so, at this point, i would say probably a "c" is what this administration is entitled to. >> there's word the white house could score a last-minute victory with talk of a health care reform deal if the works. for more, we're joined by tracie potts. isn't there something looming regarding government funding? >> reporter: the three word use haven't heard in awhile. possible government shutdown. and that's one week from today. so when congress gets back on monday, that is supposed to be their priority. preventing that from

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united and he has erica responsibility as commander-in-chief to make to our s in regard military, panetta said on but if you d ball," ask the then and women in uniform, who are they are think their o, i answer would be responsible to the united states of america. neither trump nor the white directly confirmed whether trump had authorized the strike itself. john from rochester, michigan, on the democratic line. hi, john. caller: good morning. just can't believe how many armongers are calling in and secondly, i don't know where these people get their information. things just saying crazy about how -- about korea and so many an and uninformed people shooting their mouth off. unbelievable. you. host: stephanie from east hampton, connecticut, on the line.endent hi, stephanie. caller: hi. good morning. time, you know, when i an't understand neither of the presidents, obama or bush, this big r to use bomb. -- this ist they are very detrimental to a bomb. thought we were more of a emocratic country, we are supposed to talk to congress. havingdid anything about a discussion about how you are choos

sent it to close to japan or the troops exercising of the pa netta, or the troops exercising of the panetta not forget about us. “— still here and do not forget about us. —— simultaneous missiles. still here and do not forget about us. -- simultaneous missiles. do you think the timing is good a dental, or is very sense that pyongyang is behaving antagonistic league when there is this crucial time of the us and china establishing the new relationship under the new president, donald trump. you said we cannot tell. north korea feels a need to test its technology, like all countries do, even though the testing of this particular technology runs counter to un resolutions. but whatever its intention, it is being read outside as being provocative. and that might be all that matters. the technology is advancing. but the rhetoric, certainly from washington, now, is getting heightened, as north korea moves getting heightened, as north korea m oves ste p getting heightened, as north korea moves step by step closer to having the ability to attack the united states with nuclear weapons. just a few days

yesterday leon panetta said the united states must grapple with the fact that north korea is a nuclearf we were to attack them, they would wipe out seoul and 20 million people that live in seoul. if it became a nuclear war which is likely, millions of lives have be will be lo. that's t reason we haven't pulled the trigger. we've used deterrence as a principle policy. frankly in the end that's what we're left with. frankly it was containment and deterrence that ultimately resulted in the soviet union self destructing. >> many people in the white house have pushed back a little bit against our nbc report saying it wouldn't be a preemptive strike but would be willing to retaliate. >> greatest of respect for leon panetta. he can be secretary of defense for life as far as i'm concerned. detainment and deterrence worked over the soviet union for 50 years. whatever we have done has been an abysmal failure in north korea starting back in 1994 with bill clinton deciding to send jimmy carter over. they've lied to us one time after another after another. that said, even with the white house pushi

. >> bret: i want to play this sound bite from leon panetta. >> i think there is a realization that theime for talk, the time for some of this -- if i can put it in this kind of long-term negotiation stay statement, is passed. >> if we were to try to attack them, they would virtually wipe out seoul and 20 million people who live in seoul. and if it became a nuclear war, which is likely, millions of lives would be lost. that is the reason we haven't pulled the trigger. >> bret: tom? >> i think the particular issue at the moment is to compare kim il-sung and kim jong-il, he might be mentally ill. i don't say that is a flippant comment. it puts everything in the past, that bellicose rhetoric -- >> bret: his father was out there, but he is really out there. >> he might welcome more. i think the u.s. military in the event of a conflict, no question the united states would prevail. but the cost to seoul, it would be overrun, not totally destroyed, but thousands of innocent civilians would die. and the components then of what north koreans do along the dmc with american forces, it makes it a v

i interviewed leon panetta, he said in 50 years in politics, this is the most divisive time he has seentisanship and the inability of congress and the president to work together is of great concern to the future of our democracy. >> he now runs an institute for bipartisan policy. we discussed many issues including president donald trump's upcoming meeting with the president of chiern and how -- china and highway the president could be lured into a war. >> i look forward to that. >> it's been a san francisco tradition for six decades, a preview of this year's san francisco film festival. >> why the recent rains could cause some beaches along lake tahoe to vanish. >> lake tahoe will be measuring snow fall in feet over the next few days, coming up, the timing of the heaviest precipitation >> we have more coming up on ktvu news right after the break ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ to take advantage of this offer on a volvo s90, visit your local dealer. . >>> the 60th annual san francisco international film festival kicks off today. the festival got underway this afternoon with featured films and panels. movies

. >> leon panetta says that he used to think that the things that moved washington were are either leadership or crisis. you his theory is being tested because we don't have any leadership and we have crises and nothing still happens on this front. a [laughter] that is why he went to pick walnuts or whatever he did. [laughter] >> we always frame it at its debt and deficit. to me, it is a spending problem. when you think of the portion of the budget, the growing portion of the budget that is being taken up by entitlements, these trends are easy to forecast. they are demographic trends. you look at how much money we are going to have to spend. you we have 40%, more than 40% of the people in this country under medicaid or medicare. i don't have to turn on my calculator to know that won't a work. you it's a failure of trying to come to grips with cutting spending and politicians are bad and spending and politicians are bad at that. >> i just agree with that. when you break it down it is youwhen you break it down it is social security, medicare and medicaid. the house did go after medicaid in in a

i appreciate director panetta's comments. >> there are holocaust survivors out there who were listeningo what you said and couldn't spokesman for the president of the united states would make such a statement. tell us who you want to apologize to. >> clearly come anybody who not just suffered in the holocaust but frankly anyone who was offended by those comments. to draw ang comparison for which there shouldn't have been one. i'm not looking to quantify this in any way. it was an attempt to talk about and to drag any other comparison into this was not appropriate. in washington, d.c. on the independent line. go ahead. caller: good morning. i think it is fair to say, most people have anxieties about world events. you can just spin the globe and ssad.our finger on a si we need to be more coordinated when it comes to the united states taking action in the world. syria is a difficult place. we have our allies in israel right there. seven or eight different countries right there on the border with syria. needs to have a coalition of partners and an authorization by congress. i think this was

. >> leon panetta gave president a b on foreign policy because the syria strike was something bipartisanement about it. ashley: you agree with that? >> i did agree with that. i think posturing with north korea is frightening that we're talking about imminent threat with north korea. that would be the same if it had been hillary clinton. ashley: up until now nothing else has worked. strategic patience. >> i gave him a b. passing. can go to very good college with a "b." that is foreign policy, domestic front, i'm glad eric brought up the illegal immigration number, that is the high point he should talk about. his rhetoric i found deeply offensive and majority of americans did as well done something to stop people trying to make that border crossing. what i would say now the challenge he is facing what will he do about 11 million people already in this country. we're not going to have he deportation force. jeff sessions, jeff session's view what we're going to do it is not actionable. that is not what we're going to do. i think -- ashley: said he will build a wall. >> he is not building a w