secretary panetta. it gets down to the ability to really change other people's lives. that is a great reward in public service. what was your favorite job i am often asked. people are surprised by my answer because i served in the and in my 50years i have seenlic life washington at its best and washington at its worst. the good news is i saw washington work and i thought republicans and democrats willing to work together in get legislative action accomplish, in order to resolve problems in this country. i truly enjoy being a member of congress because i have the opportunity to help people. people in my district get things accomplished. but more importantly, work on issues that have impacted people in this country. as chairman of the budget committee we were working at a time when there was deficits, smaller deficits them what we have now. that effort to deal with deficits was a bipartisan effort. republicans and democrats, the republican president, president bush had us come together. republicans and de

panetta: not in my experience. frankly, i have served under nine presidents ofhis country and i've never seen a president engage in a shouting match with the leadership from the congress before the press corps. that simply has never happened as far as i can remember. katty: it great political theater. watched it with our sort of jaws on the floor. does it matter for the country? mr. panetta: i think it isf concern, because when you have the president and the leadership yelling at each other, it is an indication that those who are responsible for governing thefi country aring it extremely difficult to do. i know the president likes that kind of approach, but it really is not very effective are serious about trying to resolve differenceand be able to govern the country. katty: i guess this would make the imperative of finding a new chief of staff for the president all the more urgent. could a chief of staff in this white house prevent e at kind of scom happening on national television? mr. panetta: well, it largely d

panetta: absolutely.it would be very important if this president wants to be able to have any kind of agenda accomplished over these next two years, that he really does need a strong chief of staff who can not only organize and run a disciplined white house that provides the kind of policymaking decisions to the president that he needs, but in addition to that, have a chief of staff who can deal with the politics of catol hill, can work with both republicans and democrats, and can really serve the president in a way that would help the president bable to accomplish some of the things that he should try to accomplish as president of the united states. katty: leon panetta, formerf ch staff to president bill clinton, thanks for joining us from california. mr. panetta: good to be with you. laura: you are watching "bbc world news america." t still to come ight's "time" magazine puts the focus on journalists with the latest person of the year issue. we will hear about two men in myanmar who are in jail for thei

panetta: that is what the policy is all about, forgot six. you have a choice here between destroying the relationship or doing nothing. it is about balance. it is about, how do you approach this, uphold the values that we think are very important -- this country is always had a set of values that relate to human dignity, to the will of to how we treat people, let go to the core of what they notice it is all about. that has in the core of our ability to provide leadership in the world. and when it is clear that saudi arabia did what they did in this horrendous murder, you have to --e very clear to the saudis i just think it is really important for the president to work with the congress to develop the kind of targeted sanctions that send a message that this kind of behavior is actankly, we get a lot worse -- we would get a lot more risk that if we made that clear -- we would continue to work with you. it would continue to cooperate with you, but we cannot tolerate this kind of behavior. that is the way the united dates is a post act. not to ru

leon panetta, to you first, your etaction when you learned sey mattis resigned. >> i thought it was a day for the nation to lose an outstanding defense secretary who is well experienced with regards to national security policy and alo believed ithe basic principles of leadership, of strength, of our alliances, of understanding who our adversaries are, principles that i think have served this cuntry well since world war ii. to lose that experience, to lose somebody wh those principles, i think, increases the danger in this country of not having the ability to deal with a lot of tairng points in the world today, and that concerns me because i think it puts our nati at risk. >> woodruff: richard haass, do you agree it puts the nation at risk? i >> wels certainly a major loss. he was experienced, he was so he represented, essentially, traditional foreign policy. i'll admit my bias, i thi served this country extraordinarily well for three-quarters of a century, so without him there, it can't be good. but i also tell youdyjui wasn't surprised that he left. clearly he calculated quite a onil

mark joins outside the panetta institute in monterey. mark? >> reporter: when i first met leon panetta, i was a rookie reporter. when he left congress, he went to be the office of management and budget. and then tapped by the president in becoming the chief of staff. >> the most important part is having a good relationship with the president. and secondly, the president has to accept some of the discipline that has to be imposed by the chief of staff. >> reporter: leon panetta, says the difference today is that trust is missing. >> i think president trump really believes that he can be his own chief of staff. when you are a staff person, it makes it difficult to work for somebody who has no use for what you are doing or the advice you are giving. >> reporter: says panetta, if the president wants to get things in the two years, there needs to be a change. >> if he is a bully and dealing with people the way he dealt with him as a new york developer, things are going to be tough. >> reporter: have the president listen. >> that's the most importan

allies and and former defense secretary leon panetta joins us next.: with everything that is going on in washington, we want to get perspective from someone who worked in this town since the the nixon administration. lee on leon panetta was bill clinton's chief of staff and served as cia director and defense secretary under president barack obama. welcome to "fox news sunday." >> nice to be with you, chris. chris: you lived through the uproar over vietnam. you lived over the crisis of watergate. how much trouble is the trump presidency in right now? >> well, it is one of those moments, if you're in the white house where you really have to look at the situation and try to do what you can to try to provide a little better stability for the country. there is, there is just, too much chaos, too many crises going on. i think it is very upsetting for the country, for our economy, for the world. i just think that, i think this is moment where the president really has to focus on what steps need to be taken in order to provide a little better stability for th

say hello to the former secretary of defense, leon panetta. [applause] >> former national security advisor, h.r. mcmaster. [applause] >> former cia director mike morrell. thank you for being here today. please go ahead and have a seat. we will get a picture. get together. we have to do this. it is mandatory. [laughter] have to make sure i follow the rules, especially in reagan's house. america's newsroom at 9:00 to noon, fox news channel, we take all viewers. you can tweet that if you want. one of the things i love about not guy is that his parents only immigrated from italy to the united states, but they did not choose acronyms like the morel family or cincinnati, they chose monterey, california. a walnut farm. you know what i call that? good research. well done. , as a fellowl buckeye, welcome. we can debate the northern ohio/southern ohio aspect later. general mcmasters has a new book coming out set for release in 2020. my query is whether that is before or after november 3, 2020. >> it is before, but it is not what you think it is about. >

leon panetta joins us now.u. >> nice to be with you. >> neil: i know nigel hamilton wrote of you, that to be a great leader, a modern president has to have a great chief of the staff. in leon panetta, bill clinton got the enforcer he deserved. that came in 1994 when bill clinton wanted to restore order to all over the map, pizza at 1:00 a.m. and people undisciplined. he needed that. there you came. the pizza reference has nothing to do with your italian heritage. so i want to get your sense of the type of person that would have to come in and do the same for donald trump. >> well, neil, i think the most important thing is that there really has to be a relationship between the president and whoever he selects as chief of staff. it's very important that there be a relationship of trust where the chief of staff trusts the president and the president trusts the chief of staff. also that the president is willing to empower the chief of staff not only to implement a strong chain of command within the staff but also t

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chris: secretary panetta, thank you. thanks for sharing your weekend, with us. sir, to you and your family, merry christmas. >> and a merry christmas to you, chris and to all of your viewers. chris: up next, we'll bring in our sunday group to discuss one of the wildest weeks of the trump presidency. plus what would you like to ask the panel of what resignation of defense secretary mattis means for the trump white house? go to facebook or twitter on "fox news sunday." we may use >> let's work together. let's by partisan and get it done. >> this may be the most chaotic week in the hit of the presidency of the united states. chris: president trump, senate democratic leader chuck chuck striking very different notes about the events in sunday. time now for our sunday group. katie pavlich, townhall.com. mo elitheee, susan page of "usa today," and fox news correspondent gillian turner. katie i will ask the same question i talked to leon panetta, how much trouble is the presidency now. >> we take weeks and blow them up into the entire presidency. the president made a nu

chris: secretary panetta, thank you. thanks for sharing your weekend, with us.to you and your family, merry christmas. >> and a merry christmas to you, chris and to all of your viewers. chris: up next, we'll bring in our sunday group to discuss one of the wildest weeks of the trump presidency. plus what would you like to ask the panel of what resignation of defense secretary mattis means for the trump white house? go to facebook or twitter on "fox news sunday." we may use these folks, they don't have time to go to the post office they have businesses to grow customers to care for lives to get home to they use stamps.com print discounted postage for any letter any package any time right from your computer all the amazing services of the post office only cheaper get our special tv offer a 4-week trial plus postage and a digital scale go to stamps.com/tv and never go to the post office again! i live to fight. [hissing] and i fight to live. [hissing] i went to 45 doctors before one finally referred me to a ph specialist. [hissing] i have cteph. a form of pulmonary h

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it is -- you just heard leon panetta. it is -- this is now becoming something we are hearing again and again and again. are you worried? >> well, it's been a terrible week for donald trump, no question about it. i can't speak to syria and the foreign policy issues because that's not my expertise. but look, i mean, when you talk about the wheels coming off, we've got the strongest economy we've had in 20 years, notwithstanding -- >> why'd the market go down 1,700 points in the past 5 trading days? >> because of this catastrophic decision by the fed which, by the way, trump was right about this. he called out the fed back in september. remember, he said this was a mistake and he was right. now if anybody should be resigning -- if anyone should resign from office, it should be the chairman of the federal reserve, who made an -- even while he was talking and the stock market went down by 600 points, it was a real disaster. now, look, the real economy remains really strong. i mean, we still have 7 million more jobs than people

former secretary of defense and ci net - - cia leon panetta. general hr mcmaster. former cia director mike morel. have a seat we will get a picture real quick. it is mandatory. [laughter] make sure i follow the rules especially in reagan's house. america's newsroom fox news channel we take all viewers you can tweak that if you want. i have always loved this guy that his parents not only immigrated from italy to the united states that they chose monterey california on a walnut farm. [laughter] i call that good research. well done. and director as a fellow buckeye welcome we can talk about ohio later and the general has a book coming out 2020 my questions before or after november 3rd quick. >> before but not what you think it is about. [laughter] >> you can sell more books. some people told me that. [laughter] >> i have been at the reagan library twice in my life the first time was with the passing of ronald reagan the second was the passing of george herbert walker bush we were talking earlier today and 41 stood up to saddam hussein first august 1990 but 20 years la

and then with leon panetta in that role to help with government. trump has not figured it out. and right now and then headed to the exit that is falling apart between trump and kelly. it is a watershed moment and for those moderates or any to ride a different narrative. and then for trump to reach out to find his own equivalent of james baker the third or a leon panetta somebody with gravitas and then to tell trump what he doesn't want to hear. one is that trump has no desire to have that type of person but if he is smart that mike pompeo seems to be able to tell trump stuff that he does not like. and in my mind i have been very critical of kelly as you know, and then to have white house chief of staff. . >> you cannot go into a room with vladimir putin for two and a half hours there stuff you cannot do. nobody's in a position to tell donald trump those hard truths. he desperately needs that kind of person and james a-letter baker the third and social security reform is the third rail. don't touch it you will be electrocuted. try cutting taxes but not interested to have that sh

leon panetta joins me, ahead. ♪ ♪ this holiday season, families near you need your help.edcross.org now to donate. he said i have at least ten, 12, 12 people that want it badly. i'm in no rush. a lot of people want it. joining me, leon panetta. thank you for being with us. do you believe him when he says that? >> i think when it comes to appointing a chief of staff, you won't just that you will a name out of a hat. if they're going to appoint someone to be chief to the president and someone who can perform the role of chief of staff, it has to be someone that the president trusts and that person can trust the president. i don't care how many want this job. it won't work. we've been talking about it from the beginning of this white house. and you have raised red flags that have all proved to be accurate. steve bannon made point that the white house has known about this change for months and now they're having this, in his words, audition call in the middle of the time the democrats are, again, in his words gearing up to take the president down. is this something they shoul

say hello to former secretary of defense, head of the cia, leon panetta. former national security adviser, retired general h.r. mcmaster. former cia director, mike morel. gentlemen, thank you for being here today. please go ahead and have a seat. oh, we're going to get a picture real quick. get together. we have to do this. it was mandatory. >> got to make sure i follow the rules, especially when i'm in reagan's house. america's newsroom, 9:00 a.m. to noon:00, fox news channel, tell people we take all viewers. you can tweet that if you want. i have always -- one of the things i love about this guy right here is that his parents not only immigrated from italy to the united states, but they didn't choose akron like the morell family or cincinnati like the hemmer family. they chose monterey, california. and a walnut farm. you know what i call that? good research. well done. and director morell, as a former buckeye, welcome here. we can debate the northern ohio/southern ohio aspects later, and general mcmaster has a new book coming out called "battlegrounds" s

director panetta would have coffees on a weekly basis with members of the congress. i think that helps. but it is something to bear in mind. the other trend i think is a broader trend about our country's politics. it used to be that politics stopped at the water's edge. and now i think that's not the case. and we've seen regrettably more of the politicization of intelligence in the congress which does not in my opinion lead to responsible and informed oversight. >> to the extent -- i'm asking this question to see if you agree, to the extent that those trends are happening, it actually makes the oversight in the executive branches of the intelligence community even more important to the extent that it's breaking down to some degree in congress. >> agreed, agreed. no doubt about it. and there are extensive accountability mechanisms in the executive branch which we all have referred to, but i think that we need to get back to a time where congress is the more constructive player in the process. >> mark, enough, too much? not the right kind? what's your sense? >> i will

director panetta would have copies on a weekly basis with members of congress and that helped but itis something to bear in mind. the other trend is a broader trend about the country's politics. it used to be politics stopped at the water's edge. now i think that is not the case. we have seen regrettably more politicization of intelligence and congress which does not, in my opinion, lead to responsible and informed oversight. >> to the extent, i'm asking to see if you agree, to the extent that is happening, it makes the oversight in the executive branch of the intelligence committee more important to the extent that it is down to some degree in congress. >> no doubt about it. there are extensive i can accountability mechanisms but we need to get back to a time when this is in the process. >> what is your sense? >> i give a little insight on both sides then throw in the judiciary, the oversight mechanism, one of the areas those of us in the private sector can use to ensure a degree of oversight not so much on the legislative branch but a little bit once in a while. i agree with george

here's what panetta means. this part that talks about allies and says one core belief i have always held is that our strength as a nation is inextricably linked to our strength of our unique and comprehensive system of alliances and partnerships. while the u.s. remains an indispensable nation in the free world, we cannot protect our interests or serve that role effectively without maintaining strong alliances and showing respect to those allies. joining us, aaron blake, senior political reporter for "the washington post," charlie sikes. your thoughts? >> it's always been chaos. this has always been the chaos president. but the chaos has been contained by the guardrails. that's what makes this feel so different because the guardrails are down. the chaos unleashed. and we've felt this way in the past about this administration but you feel it as this great unraveling going on here. you have the investigations. what's happening in the stock market. you have the government shutdown, the quintessential adult in the r

is an opportunity for trump to reach out and find his own equivalent of james baker the third or panetta somebody with experience that is grounded enough to close the door to tell trump what he doesn't want to hear. so that trump probably has no desire. but if you were smart mike pompeo seems to be able to tell trump stuff that he does not like maybe there are people that in my mind and i have been very critical of kelly as you know and i have gone so far to say he defended this country as white house chief of staff to tell trump know. you cannot trash the fbi. you cannot go into a room with vladimir putin for two and half hours without a notetaker there is stuff you cannot do nobody is ever in a position to tell donald trump he desperately needs that kind of person and a long-winded answer i apologize but to give you an example from history, james a-letter baker walked into reagan's office one day and said social security reform is a third rail of politics you don't want to touch it you will be electrocuted try cutting taxes were focusing on the economy like a laser and the rest is hist

weapon systems then teresa made announces a delay in the house of commons on the racks that vote leon panetta former cia director join former trumper administration national security advisor mcmaster to discuss the role of the us military around the world and global hotspots. >>host: this week on "the communicators" we want to introduce you to author of the government accountability office report on weapon system cybersecurity, christina chaplain. what is the overarching find in your report dealing with weapons and cybersecurity? >> we look at weapons in the development process and what we found is many are vulnerable to be hacked there very vulnerable to cyberattacks in general as they try to penetrate it was relatively easy to do so. a lot of the time it was physical like password management with patch updating and things like that. it is a grim situation they are taking a lot of action recognizing there is a problem but there is a long road ahead of them but the cyberhygiene to take it seriously. >>host: the senate armed services committee requested this report. >>host: both senator reid a

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took bill clinton a year and a half to figure out needed leon panetta in that role to help him govern. trump has not figured that out. and i think that right now is kind of what john kelly presumably headed toward the exit, this is a bad marriage now is really falling apart. between trump and kelly. it's i think a watershed moment for this presidency. i think it's an opportunity for the moderates if there are any in this white house to try to write a different narrative. it's an opportunity for trump to reach out and find his own equivalent of a james baker the third or leon panetta, someone with gravitas and experience, somebody who's grounded enough to walk into the oval office, close the door and tell trump what he doesn't want to hear.now, there are a couple of obvious problems. one is that trump probably has no desire to hear, to have that sort of person. but if you were smart, he would try to find him. mike pompeo is a guy we seem to be able to tell from the that he doesn't like. there may be people who could actually perform the job. and in my mind, one of the reasons that i've

prominently during the leon panetta years as director and then he went with director panetta over to the department of defense. many of you probably appearing on television as the pentagon press secretary. so please welcome george. our next panel member is the former acting general counsel of c.i.a. chief legal officer through probably one of the most turbulent periods in our recent national history. he served as the chief legal officer for much of the time from 2001 through about 2009. you can all go through your historical rolodex in your mind and think about all the cool things that happened during that time. john is the one making the legal recommendations to the director of the c.i.a. and leading a staff of lawyers that made representations to the officers of the agency as they took on edgy operations in support of the defense of our country. so please, john is now at steptoe and johnson. the author of a great book, called "company man: 30 years of controversy and crisis in the c.i.a." if i want to know what a lawyer's life is like at the c.i.a., it's a great book to read so ple

. >> reporter: former congressman panetta says it would hurt the country. >> i think the president will lose if he shuts down the government. but more importantly, the country will lose, because we'll be hurting. >> reporter: pelosi came after the president in a personal aide, saying it's like a moonhood thing with him as if manhood could ever be associated with him. you get in a tingle contest with a skunk, you get tinkle all over you. >> i think that's harsh, but i would have choice words for trump. >> just to hear that squabble is happening, just to show you our country is more polarized more than ever. >> reporter: in san francisco, terry mcsweeney, nbc bay area news. >>> he's the first judge in nearly 100 years to be recalled in california. and tonight, he's reportedly asking the public to pay his legal fees. in june, he was voted out of office. he handed down what many considered to be a light sentence to the stanford athlete accused of sexual assault. that fuelled the recall effort. now the mercury news says the judge is asking for money to help pay his $135,000 in court ordered

next, former cia directors leon panetta and former trump administration advisor h.r.aster discuss how the u.s. can remain the preeminent military powerth

. >> and our chris wallace also talked to former white house chief of staff leon panetta who is alsof the president. let's take a listen to what he had to say on this. >> if you are in the white house where you really have to look at the situation and try to do what you can to try to provide a little better stability for the country there is just too much chaos. too many crises going on. chaos and crises going on. a lot of people resigning, of course, mattis, mcgurk. we hear there are other resignations from the defense department coming. what advice would you give president trump? and let me ask you, do you think the white house is in a state of crisis and chaos? >> well, white houses are also in the state of angst and so i'm not surprised that there is angst there. i do feel that the new chief of staff's first job is to reestablish a little bit of the stability that was there a few months ago when general kelly seemed to have things under control. i think there will be a little bit more turnover. there always is at the two year mark. but, frankly, people have to understand with all

. >> what we do know is just one lucky ticket was sold in new york and wabc's nina panetta went looking for the winner. >> why wasn't it us? >> i wish it was me who hit the lottery. >> good for them. a little jealous but it's all right. >> reporter: if it couldn't be them, they're just hoping the powerball winner is from their neighborhood at least. >> everybody wins. all the places. it's about time somebody from brooklyn won. >> oh, yes. i think it's great. finally somebody in the neighborhood won something.drm o uld tting l five numbers and the powerball. and they don't have to share that almost $300 million jackpot with anyone. >> well, someone in this kind of area, that's up and coming, it's up and on the rise, they get an opportunity to do something like that or to win something like that, you kind of get to see a little bit more of what's happening. >> i think it's great. i hope they become a regular customer here in the future as well. >> reporter: businessowners and residents around east new york, which is a mix of public housing, modest apartments and emerging new retail and ho

leon panetta went on to be the secretary. people started to ask questions. is it going to help me or hurt me? that's a question that would not have been asked. the 36-year-old ambitious republican operative and nobody doubts his political skill who said no, thanks. i think this might hurt my repetition more than it will help it. that says something about how the president treated his chiefs of staff and they emerged as diminished figures. that's more of a statement on the president than them. >> mark meadows may be chairman if he stays and the republicans take back the house. who knows what you will be doing in two more years. >> the president set them up and considered them obstacles or competitors. he shot holes in them. >> never the boss's responsibility. it's striking. up next for us, an overabundance of bread crumbs and the latest revelations and what they mean for the president. a quick update on another case. this is the case of the accused russian spy. she reached a plea deal with prosecutors. she is accused of trying to infiltrate the campaign to ad

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he was involved with hillary clinton, with the campaign, and he was also involved with the panetta group. all of those ties, millions of dollars going overseas to attract this money but you don't even get the sense that anybody is even sniffing into this and it's just -- that is where people i think have lost trust in the justice system because that was fundamentally wrong. it's millions of dollars spent to effect an election by engaging a foreign entity and foreigners to be involved in that campaign. then you hear mark meadows, and he literally was within putin's network, within america. blackmail, money laundering, corruption and kickbacks, bribery. all these things. >> the president could pardon general flynn and he would make a great chief of staff, don't you think? >> sean: [laughs] you just got the headline on media. well deserved. good to see you and congrats on the book, santillo, congressman. we have a lot coming up from d.c. more on the outrageous hypocrisy. nika brezinski under fire tonight. tammy bruce, monica crowley, and you don't want to miss the interview with first lady

kennedy: and that person's name was leon panetta. >> that person's name he asked me to keep it anonymouskennedy: that's fine. so what do you take away as a staff member of one of the bush white houses, of how both of these men treated their staff? >> well, i think that's probably the most important part in terms of leaders. so now generation x, now we're like heading into the point, where are the leaders. kennedy: yes, i know. >> you have to help. you have to reach down and help. you have to make them a part of it. be a really good listener and make it look like you care. it's not that hard. and a little note here and there, even if it's an e-mail, it makes a big difference i'm grateful that i had a chance to know them. i told my husband, without the bushes, there could be no me. i wouldn't be here. they gave me a lot of opportunity and i try not to take it for granted. kennedy: thank you so much for sharing your insight. i know that every show has wanted a piece of your perspective which is so incredibly rare given what this family has plishedz a accomplis. a. and the fact that that you

i think he did the right thing, unlike leon panetta and bob yates. when he could no longer support the president's policies he resigned, that is an honorable thing to do rather than staying, supporting bad policies and get out and write a book and salvage your own reputation. mattis did the right thing. shannon: a lot of people respect him for stepping up and saying he needed to say. if we don't see you, happy new year. >> glad to be with you. shannon: superlatives for the stock market going from the worst christmas eve trading day every to a couple days later the dow jones industrial average posting its biggest single day point gain ever. one of the lesser-known factors was a report from bloomberg news that the trump administration is kickstarting trade talks with china sending a high-level delegation to beijing on january 7th. christina joins us with more. >> reporter: you saw traders happy today, because of a rally compared to the worst ever plunge on monday. the dow closed up 1086 points, the largest single day point increase in history. you saw

leon panetta, talking with bill clinton when he got the job, they had their differences but it was aboutiscipline, a shepherding process to keep them on focus. some presidents recoil at that. >> yes. it's well known that president trump is something of an iconoclast when it comes to the model of a chief executive because he is a businessman, so he is accustomed very much of being the man in charge. i want to echo my friend robyn's praise of general kelly, who was incredible in public service. >> neil: if he's such a remarkable guy, why is he leaving? >> this is the kind of job that can grind very hard on anyone. especially -- >> neil: he didn't volunteer to leave. by all understanding, the president placed amount. >> do you know what, neil? i don't have a place on that. at the white house christmas party, general kelly was there, he was happily mingling with everyone. seem to be continual there. i agree with robyn and i agree with you that whoever chooses this job does need to be able to work closely with those who are closest to the president and be able to collaboratively challenge the

neil: that is no easy task, coming from leon panetta served as bill clinton's chief of staff.ck in 1994, bill clinton's administration seemed to be tumbling, going nowhere fast, clinton reached out to the former house budget committee chief, i need guidance and discipline here. we're all over the map. we don't have a cogent message. leon panetta instilled that discipline, made sure all appointments everything were handled through him. he had dust-ups with bill clinton that we might point out he did leave beef the whole monica lewinsky thing that would ohio cure later. point he is was a very strong chief of staff, whatever the politics. left or right you need someone like that. dick cheney served that role for gerald ford. no fool head of the staff, making sure president just came in after the richard nixon resignation, would instill discipline for the white house. for a couple years he did. let's get the read on all of that, even the christie name that came up, because that gets bandied about a lot with charlie gasparino. what do you think? >> he was a very good chief of staff

here's former defense secretary leon panetta on why he finds the situation so concerning. >> if you're in the white house where you really have to look at the situation and try to do what with you can to try to provide a little better stability for the country. there's just too much chaos, too many crises going on. i've been in politics over 50 years in a number of positions, and working under nine presidents, i've never seen a situation like this. jon: gillian turner has more. >> reporter: the latest member of president trump's national security team to resign in protest over the decision to withdraw american troops from the ongoing syrian civil war is brett mcgurk. foreign policy leaders from president trump's own party say they don't blame him for leaving. >> i would not be surprised if they have not had a immediating. he was leaving -- meeting. he was leaving in february, but as mattis just did, one of the greats patriots i've ever met in my public service, general mattis. but as mattis did, he followed suit and left. and, you know, he did the right thing. >> reporter: mcgurk's one

i think he did exactly the right thing, unlike leon panetta and bob gates when he could no longer support the president's policies, he resigned. that's the honorable thing to do, rather than stay with it, support bad policies, and then get out and write a book and try to salvage her own reputation. >> shannon: or write anonymous pieces for "the new york times." 11 people respect him for stepping up and say what he felt he needed to say. general, thank you for joining us. if we don't see you, happy new year. >> happy new year. glad to be with you. >> shannon: it's an era of superlatives for the stock market going from the worst christmas eve trading day ever, just a couple days later, the dow jones industrial average posting its biggest single day-point game ever. one of the lesser notice factors reportedly driving the move was a report from "bloomberg news" that the trump administration is kickstarting trade talks with china. reportedly sending a high-level delegation to beijing on januar. kristina partsinevelos joins us. >> what a day here on the new york stock exchange floor. you saw tr

. >> former cia directors leon panetta and michael morell and former national security advisor h.r.cmaster discuss how the u.s. can maintain its military power in the world and how to deal with global hotspots. this is about an hour and 10 minutes. [applause] bill: great to be here. we have a terrific panel. no pressure. to engage youhope over the next hour and 10 minutes. say hello to the former secretary of defense,

director, former white house chief of staff, former defense secretary, longtime congressman, leon panetta. right after seeing what unfolded in the oval office this afternoon. how to govern, also the concern of a bipartisan group of 44 former u.s. senators. so many faces we had to put them up on a wall. as we first reported last night, the group came together to write an op-ped for the "washington post" warning that the nation is endering a dangerous period. "we're at an inflection point in which the foundational principles of our democracy and national security interests are at stake and the rule of law and the ability of of our institutions to function freely and independently must be upheld." one of the co-signers of the piece, he served the people of connecticut as did his father before him, former democratic senator chris dodd. senator, tell us how this came about. i understand you are one of the drafters. >> well, brian, it's nice to be with you. >> thank you for being on here. >> speaking with chuck hagel, a good friend of mine, a former republican member of the senate. we were havi

>> i had the pleasure of interviewing leon panetta when kelly got the job.nd he said we'll see how -- it will take time to see if john kelly is successful. he will not tolerate disorderly leaking and shenanigans behind the scenes but did say if president trump decides to hell with discipline, i'm over john kelly, we'll have a problem. it's hard to know if that's where we are right now because we don't have the straight story out of the white house. there's no way john kelly is staying. looks like he got a little ahead of himself. it's a white house that's desperately needing order. john kelly has done somewhat of an effective job and some say it's just an impossible task. no one can do it. >> the role of a chief of staff and high-ranking person inside the white house, john is it changing? democrats are taking control of the house. there are going to be committees with subpoena power launching all sorts of investigations. we're talking about the possibility that maybe democrats look at one of these avenues and that will be developed from friday and move towar

i think at some point i told leon panetta, who was the chief of staff, i said, i'm allowing the broadcasto have full access to the briefing now because they used to have limits on it. he said, eh, that's fine. nobody thought it was a big deal. >> until there was a sex scandal. >> would it be improper for the president of the united states to have had a sexual relationship with this woman? >> mike mccurry has apologized to every one of his successors for being the press secretary who agreed to have the press briefing broadcast live. >> it laid the groundwork for what we have today, forever changing the questions. >> we started seeing repetition of people asking the same question because they wanted to be on camera asking the question for purposes of their own network broadcast. >> what do you mean by an improper relationship? >> i'm not going to parse the statement. >> one more stab at this. >> why are these allegations outrageous? >> changing the answers. >> you've tried now i think a dozen different ways to get me to amplify the statement. i'm clearly not going to do it. >> the press sec

leon panetta, admirable. bill perry, one of the finest people we ever had in the office. a draftee army soldier. we want civilians as a general statement running the department of defense. who in their right mind with a sense of dignity and accomplishment in life wants to step forward and join this administration? it's going to be very rough. >> general mccaffrey, thank you so much, it's such a consequential week not only for the country but for the implications for national security and foreign policy. we really appreciate your joining us to help us understand all of it. >> good to be with you, kristen. >>> i want to bring the panel back in. we talk about the ripple effects, you heard the general lay out a number of them. but we keep going back to this word of u.s. allies. what is it going to mean for the allies? what is your biggest concern when you think about these departures? >> well, we look like idiots is the problem. right? and that's a big reason why these people are resigning. right? as i think the general expertly laid out, you can make an argument for troop wi

[applause] >> we go back a long ways director of public affairs prominently during the leon panetta years to the assistant of public affairs and many of you remember him appearing on television as the pentagon press secretary. the former acting general counsel cia probably one of the most turbulent times in recent history to serve as the officer for much of the time 2001 through 2009 you can all go through your historical rolodex between 2001 and 2009 making the legal recommendations leading a staff of lawyers to the officers of the agency as they take on operations he is the author of a great book called company man 30 years of controversy in crisis if you want to know what a lawyers life is like please welcome him. >> i would like to introduce a national treasure with a long and storied career at the department of justice culminating her being assistant attorney general for national security she also had a little job to be the best chief of staff of robert mueller of the fbi. serving as the assistant for homeland security and counterterrorism now spends time educating the next generatio

my real job description, secretary panetta, when you were there, i think my real job description is, how do you keep the peace one more year, one more month, one more week, one more day, one more hour, so the diplomats can work their magic, our allies can work with us, and we keep another tragedy of war from breaking out. >> there's a lot of question about the magic that may, is or is not working with north korea. days before this forum last year, north korea launched its third icbm, intercontinentall ballistic missile. h.r. mcmaster, then national security adviser, told me right here on this stage, that the threat was increasing every day. what is your assessment of north korea now as we get word of y building long-range missiles and working on its nuclear program continues? >> well, first of all, i thinks? if you look at one year ago, you summed it up very well, it was going anywhere, but good. and following the singaporeer discussion between chairman kim and president trump, it has now been shown to be clearly in them diplomats' hands. we have been able to actually reduce some of