do you agree with secretary leon panetta?re going to have to go back in to get isis. here are the results. 56% of more than, let's call it 56,000 people who voted. sadly, they agree. i hope he's wrong. i fear that he's right. here are some of the social media reaction that's come in while i've been on air. smerconish, panetta is a warmonger like the republicans. they should be handled by air strikes. going back with the taliban in charge would be foolish, and start another endless war. i don't know that papanetta, to your first observation, was cheering on the result. that's not where he is coming from. as to your second point, i happen to share it. hopefully we can do whatever is necessary remotely, as was apparently done in the last 24 hours with one of the planners of the isis-k attack that killed 13 of our soldiers on thursday. one more if i have time, and i think that i do. here it is. smerconish, what is sad is you blaming president biden. really? kick rocks. i'm stopping right there. when president trump negotiated the

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i was just talking about that r leon panetta.bligation to do something to get them out and joining me now is "new york times "michael crowley and chief correspondent ayman nowaz. they hosted just within the hour of the final departure day on the tarmac, the ambassador, the flag, the corps of consular officials who have done so much to try to get both. they got out and i know the white house is frustrated and not focusing on the 100,000 that did get out and those this left behind were either on the siv list and denied, even though they're veterans buddies said there's no reason. he did two tours with him. no reason that guy should have been denied. how do we ever get them out? >> right, andrea. so the phase that just completed was this frenzied, massive logistical operation of, you know, aircraft coming in at an unbelievable pace, cramming hundreds of people in planes meant to seat far fewer. what will happen now becomes much more of a sort of careful diplomatic effort where the u.s. government tries to persuade the taliban to all

secretary panetta, thank you for being with us. the u.s.ment saying basically that the afghan government has to do more, that they were giving up without a fight. now kelly is reporting there has been some fighting overnight, the last 24 hours. the afghan security forces are far more supported, 300,000 troops, air force, special forces and heavy equipment. the state department wrote we are committed to supporting those forces well into the future. why do you think, mr. secretary, that they're not fighting back? >> well, there's no question that the situation is deteriorating rapidly. we've got five capitals that have fallen in three days, three fell on sunday alone. so it's obvious that the afghans are not putting up the kind of fight that is essential here. they have got to be able to stop the taliban momentum at some point. and if they don't, i think there is a real danger that afghanistan could be lost to the taliban within a number of weeks. >> and that would mean that kabul has fallen, or under threat of falling. we're trying to protec

secretary panetta, do you think sticking to the august 31st timeline is smart? >> well, i think the president made a point he obviously is trying to meet that deadline. but he's also asked the pentagon and the state department to develop contingency plans. and i think that's important to do because frankly we made a promise. we made a promise to united states citizens who are in afghanistan and to the afghans who fought alongside of us that we would do everything we could to evacuate them. i think we've still got to keep that promise. >> general hertling, from your point of view does president biden have a choice to stick to the 31st deadline? >> he doesn't have much of a choice, anderson. what i'll tell you, anderson, is we've talked about neo, a couple of times. the non-combatant evacuation operations that is currently ongoing. there are different phases of neo. the first phase is always dysfunctional and disastrous. the second phase is when things start flowing, and that's what we're in right now. and seeing good stuff. especially in a contested neo, the thir

. >>> joining me now, is leon panetta. grateful to see you on this important day. nick was just describing the situation on the ground. afghanistan has fallen to the taliban. president of the united states was silent this weekend as this all played out. he will address the american people and the world in a few hours. what must he say? >> well, i think it's very important, considering that this is, obviously, a sad and tragic day and particularly those over the last 20 years who served in afghanistan and sacrificed to make sure that what has happened today would not happen. so i think the president has to take responsibility. he is president of the united states. he is going to have to take responsibility. he is going to have to admit the mistakes that were made and, at the same time, i think as commander in chief, he is going to have to make very clear to the world that the united states is going to go after terrorism no matter where it's located and that we will not stand for al qaeda or isis to reestablish themselves in this islamic caliphate. he has to say we w

jimmy panetta who served in afghanistan as an intelligence officer in the u.s. navy reserve.nks so much for being with us. this dissent communication, you know how important that is and it goes directly to the secretary has to be read at the highest levels and it is a rare communication with diplomats on the field, very privileged and it's sacred within the state department culture that they have that ability to communicate especially in an emergency, and it's not clear what was done, the state department says they started cutting red tape, but you guys authorized the cutting of red tape with the defense supplemental appropriation back in july. >> yes. first of all, thanks for having me, andrea. these are definitely going to be questions that we're going to be asking in our capacity in the united states congress especially when it comes to the oversight and the hearings that we've already demanded in the congress and in the senate on the foreign affairs committee and the armed services committee. you hope that these types of cables are read and taken into account and these ty

. >> i share nothing with leon panetta. to some extent i think jesse is right. the taliban wants nobody to in have ad them. they want to be in power. they went to the turkish government and said we don't know how to run an airport can you run the airport. they asked the president of turkey. right. they want a world legitimacy. they have the embassy of china and russia open. they said we want to be legitimate so we're not invaded again. that's number one. number two, i think the american public is against going back in. this with draw makes it clear we don't want to go in or see these pictures on our screen again. i think biden has to own the consequences of his decisions. >> i don't think he knows what he wants to do. if he wants to stay out and with draw completely or ramp things back up. >> stew shay. yes.his critics need to understd that if we stayed beyond the trump deal, including the 2020 negotiations of pompeo those conditions say the taliban won't allow territory for isis-k or al-qaeda to regrow. we knows happening but at agreements say they're not suppo

however, leon panetta is right.o be back in there to play whack-a-mole with terrorist groups that pop up and are a threat to us. the war on the ground in afghanistan may be over for a short time, the war against terrorism is not over and really, if you talk to most people, it can't be. one more point, president biden in the meeting with israeli prime minister said we stand with you. we are allies with you, almost like he's trying to shore up world allies because they are questioning that. >> sandra: bret, i want to finish up with the "washington post" this morning, put it up on the screen. biden embrace with military that is grieving. rest assured when histories written, there will be enough blame for all to share. for today, too much sorrow. karl and bret, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> john: live look at the white house briefing room, we are waiting for press secretary jen psaki to update the situation in afghanistan, scheduled four minutes if now. we'll take it live when it starts. >> sandra: we will

i thought tom voted forward secretary panetta on the bay of pigs -- tom quoted former secretary panettathe bay of pigs, and i think that is apt. that did not go away quickly for the kennedy administration. in fact, there was an approximate pause in the cuban missile situation. jonathan: we are moments away from retail sales in america. tom: this is going to be an awfully important report. it really speaks to the slow down after a boom economy. wait 30 days, even more important. jonathan: the prince just around the corner in new york city this morning. heard on bloomberg radio, seen on tv, this is bloomberg. ♪ (announcer) back pain hurts, and it's frustrating. you can spend thousands on drugs, doctors, devices, and mattresses, and still not get relief. now there's aerotrainer by golo, the ergonomically correct exercise breakthrough that cradles your body so you can stretch and strengthen your core, relieve back pain, and tone your entire body. since i've been using the aerotrainer, my back pain is gone. when you're stretching your lower back on there, there is no better feeling. (announc

so there is a disconnect. >> secretary panetta, the cia director traveled to afghanistan this beak to meet with the taliban leader as the u.s. is seeking a clear understanding on where the taliban stands on a number of issues as the clock ticks toward this deadline. that would have been a fascinating meeting to be a fly on the wall for? as a former cia director yourself, how does something like that go, and how much leverage does the u.s. have? >> there's nobody better to send in that kind of meeting than bill burns. he's someone who is probably the most experienced diplomat in the administration, and he's had to deal with all kinds of adversaries. so it was a good move to send bill burns in to talk to the taliban. and when the cia director shows up and talks to the taliban, i think he brings some authority to the table, because one thing that the taliban does remember very well is the role of the cia in going after the taliban. so i think bill had some leverage here. i hope he was able to get them to understand that it is in their interest to cooperate at this point. the last thing t

with me is democratic congressman jimmy panetta of california, member of the armed services committee war veteran himself. thanks for joining us. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> i want to give you the opportunity to react as an afghanistan war veteran yourself to the events yesterday. >> well, look, i think last week was a punch in the gut. yesterday was a, felt like a knockout to be honest. honestly my heart aches for the marines, their family members, the civilians, men, women and children on the ground but we have a mission to complete at this point and so we have to realize that we have to continue to go forward like we've done and evacuate the people and what it comes down to is hopefully leave no one behind. with the august 31st date, that may not happen. we have to realize that but we have to make every effort possible to complete the mission up to that date and do what's necessary after that date to get people out of there who need to get out of afghanistan. >> before we talk more policy, i want to get into that, give us a glimpse what it is like, i was thinking about it thi

leon panetta has been outspoken and critical. this yesterday about the high possibility or probability in his words that we are going back into afghanistan. watch. >> we'll have to go back in to get isis. we'll probably have to go back in when al qaeda rest rekts itself. -- resurrects itself. we can leave a battlefield but we can't leave the war on terrorism. >> bill: the comment yesterday on cnn. the isis-k group is a splinter group described as 100 or 200 men living in different parts of eastern afghanistan. all right, to me that sounds devious. years ago there was a bomb in a soda can and put it on an airplane and it blew up. who knows what schemes they're planning now? i think panetta is exactly right. >> i think so, too. i would worry about the numbers. when president obama pulled out of iraq, he said well, you know, there are just a few hundred of these isis guys and then had to go back in. panetta, who remember is a democrat who served as secretary of state and c.i.a. director, i think he is absolutely right. president bid

joining us now, senior politics reporter grace panetta. grace, welcome.listically, grace, how many of these record requests do we think will be met? >> this is a massive amount of documentation that's being requested from these agencies it's two-week deadline for a wide range of records, touching on many different topics. these agencies will try to comply the best they can, but we expect the committee to be pretty aggressive in going after these records and it could take months to sort through all this. >> we're talking about the requests go way back, much further back than around the election. they go to the spring of 2020. why go that far back if this is about january fth? >> yeah. i think it's -- the request in some places is related and go back to 2020. that's when trump started ramping up his rhetoric, that the election would be stolen because of the pandemic and votes stolen. i think the committee is trying to put together the time line, the pieces of how this all came to be. >> one of the frustrations democrats had during the trump years is they we

director leon panetta calling it biden's bay of pigs and thanks to the ill-fated actions of our derelict low functioning president, the worst case scenario has been playing out before our eyes. ignoring the advice of his tap military commanders. they wanted slow withdrawal of u.s. troops based on the ground. now afghanistan has fallen to the islamic extremists, the taliban in record time. kabul, they just said, oh, it would be 90 days, the earliest that they will ever take over kabul. it was overrun in a matter of hours. taliban fighters are now in control of a massive stockpile, guess what, of joe biden u.s. taxpayer paid for weapons, ammo, vehicles, and other supplies abandoned during biden's hasty retreat. he wasn't even smart enough to take our munitions out. terrorists from al qaeda and isis were freed from multiple prisons all across this country. they soon will be plotting and planning their future attacks on all the u.s. and the rest of the world fermenting terror. the american flag lowered over our embassy beyond humiliating, as diplomats hastily were evacuated by helicopter to

let me start with the same question that i asked leon panetta. may vo gotten wrong in the last 20 years? >> i think one of the principal mistakes made is that leaders did not explain why it is in our national security interests to have a continuing u.s. military presence in afghanistan. as an insurance policy to make sure that the taliban did not come back to power, and provide safe aichb haven for isis, al qaeda, and other groups. and also the threat of the terrorist government inback stan. for that strategic reason it has been valid for to years. but i think it got lost in the noise of that nation building in afghanistan. and now people say after 20 years and billions and billions of dollars spent that nation building didn't succeed, so we have no interests and that is simply false. we had a presence in afghanistan to protect american civilians. not to do charity work for the afghanistans. >> so in hindsight the original sin may have been the war in iraq? perhaps we would have had the political will to do what you suggested? >> there was a lot

saigon circa 1975, steroids, former defense secretary and cia director leon panetta rightly calling it biden's bay of pigs and things to the ill-fated actions of our derelict low functioning president if you want to even say that, that is somewhat charitable. the absolute worst-case scenario has been playing out before our eyes, biden ignoring the advice in the counsel of his top u.s. military commanders. we want to slow evacuation of u.s. troops based on conditions on the ground. ignore the warnings from our intel on the ground and now afghanistan has fallen to the islamic extremists, the taliban in record time. they just said last week it would be 90 days at the earliest and it was overrun in a matter of hours. taliban fighters are now in control of a massive stockpile of joe biden u.s. taxpayer paid for weapons and ammo, vehicles, other supplies abandoned during biden's hasty retreat. it wasn't even smart enough to take munitions out. terrorists from al qaeda and isis were freed from multiple prisons all across this country, they soon will be plotting and planning their future terro

joining me democratic congressman jimmy panetta.o afghanistan in 2007 as an intel officer in the u.s. navy reserve. awarded the bronze starr. thank you for taking the time this morning. >> thank you, jim. i appreciate this opportunity. >> first i want to ask you, given your personal experience there having served in afghanistan to see it end this way, do you feel that the sacrifice you and your fellow service members made were in v vain? >> i think you've got to realize there are, what, 175,000 men and women in uniform that served. each and every service member is going to have their own feelings. i was assigned to a special operations task force that basically focused on counterterrorism. we completed our mission. i'm proud of my mission, proud of every single troop that served and sacrificed in afghanistan. but clearly seeing these images that are coming out of afghanistan at this point is absolutely disappointing, disheartening and border line sickening to be honest with you. but the way we make up for that is focusing on what yo

leon panetta says yes. >> he documented the aftermath of yesterday's attack. today he's covering funerals. i'll speak to a photographer in afghanistan right now. riends. pay as low as $25 a month. or bring a friend and you both get a month for $5. so the more people you roll with, the more you save. visible. unlimited data as low as $25 a month. or bring a friend and you both get a month for $5. you need an ecolab scientific clean here. and you need it here. and here. and here. which is why the scientific expertise that helps operating rooms stay clean is now helping the places you go every day too. seek a commitment to clean. look for the ecolab science certified seal. for skin that never holds you back don't settle for silver #1 for diabetic dry skin* #1 for psoriasis symptom relief* and #1 for eczema symptom relief* gold bond champion your skin this is the greatest idea you'll ever hear. okay, it's an app that compares hundreds of travel sites for hotels and cars and vacation rentals like kayak does for flights. so it's kayak. yeah, like kayak. why don't yo

secretary panetta was there along with our current secretary of defense, general austin, secretary austinesident obama and said thank you for allowing me to end this god damn war. paul, think about the conceit behind that statement, that wars end when one party disengages. and we know al-qaeda in iraq didn't look around and say, oh, the americans are gone, let's just stop. they morphed into al-qaeda 2.0 which became isis, the most destructive terrorist organization in history. the terrorist organization that took control of territory size of britain, and it recruited about 30,000 to the cause almost immediately and conducted nearly 200 attacks internationally, right, all across europe including the airport in brussels that shot down an airliner. and then we had to go back, paul. right? so we're going to have to go back, and it's a shame we held on to this self-delusion for so long. paul: i want to turn on -- turn to another element of this. when you were national security adviser, you wrote a strategy document saying we're now in this era of great power competition with china, russia and

. >>> former secretary of defense leon panetta, mr. secretary, many thanks. good to see you again. today president biden said they hold the taliban to their word you've been quoted as saying you never trusted the taliban. is it a mistake for the united states to count on them for cooperation? >> i believe it is i think the taliban is not to be trusted. the reality is that the taliban has provided safe haven for terrorists in the past, and they will continue to provide a safe haven for terrorists we've got almost 2,000 isis-k terrorists, al qaeda is going to re-establish itself there. >> which do you say that >> so we have a number of terrorists that we're going to have to confront in the future. >> why do you say al qaeda will re-establish is there evidence of that, or is that just hi as our guide? >> well, i saw a recent interview with a spokesman from the taliban, when he was asked about bin laden's role in 9/11 he said i saw no evidence that bin laden was involved in 9/11 if the taliban is defending bin laden in 9/11, and you know they're going to continue to provide a safe have

secretary panetta, of course, you know, i remember traveling to afghanistan with you years ago. joe biden and his on aides have repeatedly said that any pullout you believed any administration would have led to the place we are now, the chaos we are seeing. do you think the attacks today were inevitable? >> well, there's no question that what happened here left us in a very dangerous and difficult situation. general mckenzie pointed that out today. we've got thousands of our troops located in a very limited area in an unfriendly country. we've got thousands outside trying to get into the airport area. we've got the taliban, who are terrorists, and certainly supporters of terrorists, but they're operating checking points for terrorism. and we've got isis, looking for the opportunity to blow people up. this is a dangerous and difficult situation. and there's no question that it's probably joe biden's worst nightmare to lose 13 marines as a result of what's happened here. this has to be the worst day in his administration. >> so he is sticking with the august 31st deadline. he made

leon panetta sat in the situation room with vice president biden during debates about afghanistan.n you heard congressman chrissy houlahan, that the white house closely aligned itself with, saying frankly she can't explain this decision, is having a hard time explaining the decision. the x factor politically for president biden has been this perception of competency, even more, understanding of the electorate that many others in his party don't necessarily feel they share as well. he always had the benefit of the doubt. this white house insisted they have a better understanding of what the american people believe than twitter or the press. certainly a lot of members of their own party. that very much seems to be in doubt. yes, the president did an important thing as far as the administration is concerned. yesterday, spoke quickly, helped to reassert his confidence in his decision. the white house needed this time to regroup themselves again because it is august. a lot of them were scattered around. they're starting to mount political defense that is nesat this moment. we'll see tha

philippa panetta is heartbroken. her daughter, vanessa arce, a mother of five was in a wheelchair and then a crosswalk when she was hit by a car, april 1st near monterrey highway and curtner avenue in san jose. she died the next day. i know that nothing will bring my daughter back. but bringing the individual or individuals to justice is what we want. san jose police said arce did everything right while trying to cross the street crossing with the signal light vehicle came through the intersection and struck the person in the wheelchair. that person fled. police released this video showing the vehicle involved a white mercedes cls moments before the crash. and this is a stock photo of the 2000 and four the 2010 mercedes that police are looking for. at least three people have died this year in crashes at monterey and curtner. just an hour before the news conference, police learned that a man who had been hit by a chevy blazer at the same corner back on august 4th had died. police say the suspect in that case, roberto

philippa panetta is heartbroken. her daughter, vanessa rc, a mother of five was in a wheelchair and then a crosswalk when she was hit by a car april 1st near monterrey highway and curtner avenue in san jose. she died the next day. i know that nothing will bring my daughter back. but bringing the individual or individuals to justice is what we want. san jose police said arce did everything right while trying to cross the street crossing with the signal light vehicle came through the intersection and struck the person in the wheelchair. that person fled. police released this video showing the vehicle involved a white mercedes cls moments before the crash. and this is a stock photo of the 2000 and four the 2010 mercedes that police are looking for. at least three people have died this year in crashes at monterey and curtner. just an hour before the news conference, police learned that a man who had been hit by a chevy blazer at the same corner back on august 4th had died. police say the suspect in that case, roberto fig

philippa panetta is heartbroken.er daughter, vanessa arce, a mother of five was in a wheelchair and then a crosswalk when she was hit by a car, april 1st near monterrey highway and curtner avenue in san jose. she died the next day. i know that nothing will bring my daughter back. but bringing the individual or individuals to justice is what we want. san jose police said arce did everything right while trying to cross the street crossing with the signal light vehicle came through the intersection and struck the person in the wheelchair. that person fled. police released this video showing the vehicle involved a white mercedes cls moments before the crash. and this is a stock photo of the 2000 and four the 2010 mercedes that police are looking for. at least three people have died this year in crashes at monterey and curtner. just an hour before the news conference, police learned that a man who had been hit by a chevy blazer at the same corner back on august 4th had died. police say the suspect in that case, roberto fi

panetta says she and members of the community will hold a peaceful march today to bring more awareness and attention to these type of incidents. in the east bay. berkeley police arrested a 65 year-old man on suspicion of driving drunk and hitting a pedestrian it happened shortly before 3 o'clock yesterday afternoon near the berkeley bowl marketplace on san pablo avenue in oregon street. the victim was a 59 year-old man. he was taken to a local hospital and is in critical condition, but stable condition. some bottle avenue was closed for several hours the teen grayson street and hines avenue while police investigated the incident is sense. then re opened. the big story now the white house says evacuations in afghanistan are beginning to pick up some steam, according to the biden administration. the u.s. evacuated 3,000 people yesterday, 350 of those were american citizens. raquel martin is live in washington d c with the very latest good morning. workout. >>good morning will those numbers are up from the day before but still fall short of what the administration is saying their goal is

david axelrod came on tv and leon panetta came on tv.e telling the president take the blame and america will respect you for doing that. that's not what happened. >> dana: also this from matthew -- talking to friends and family in the american midwest. many in d.c., they really don't like losing in a humiliating fashion. >> bill: gut wrenching images. we showed afghans drawing comparisons with the u.s. exit out of vietnam in 1975. in a moment the only america tv reporter who was in vietnam who witnessed the fall of saigon. he says the situation today is far worse. also with us the former obama advisor calling president biden to fire his national security advisor. he will make his case next. is holding rs, a the line on interest rates. the newday two and a quarter refi is the lowest in their history. two and quarter percent, just 2.48 apr. save thousands a year. one, two! one, two, three! only pay for what you need! with customized car insurance from liberty mutual! nothing rhymes with liberty mutual. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty

and we can't forget former us defense secretary leon panetta, senior counselor at beacon global strategy is hardly an unbiased party. another fare mention is florida republican mike waltz, who made up to $25000000.00 in profits. after selling a defense firm, which has offices in afghanistan. the problem is terrorism. that opens up ghana, sand doesn't stay in afghanistan, we will be archived a 3.0. they are working closely with the taliban and they do tend to attack eric and former secretary of state conduct. liza rice offered her $0.02 on y. america's longest war was not long enough. 20 years may also not have been enough to consolidate all gains against terrorism and the sure our own safety. we and they needed more time. once again, rice's place on the board of c 3, a i, a defense contracting company is conveniently left out of our article with all these powerful officials having one foot in the capitalist pool and the other in that of the u. s. government. it's not hard to imagine why endless war is a very lucrative business decision for some stock returns from 2001 to 2021 for governm

leon panetta, a former cia director, says he has no doubt that the taliban remain terrorists.ontinue to support terrorists and he, of course, is talking about al-qaeda and various different other radical islamist groups, including islamic state. does russia take the same view? well, we have seen that director of cia has just met with leaders of taliban and he was talking to them. i do not know about what, but it's a fact of life. and what i do understand, although i'm not a big specialist in the middle east, in the middle east, but i can say that taliban is different. they have different wings in it, and very political wings, radicalwings, islamist wings, and so on. what will be the outcome? but it does not represent the whole people of afghanistan. we have other fractions and other people, not only pashtuns, who are leading over there. a final thought on afghanistan. the un high commissioner for human rights, michelle bachelet, she wants the united nations security council and the member nations to focus like a laser beam on human rights in afghanistan. she says there are cre