george papadopoulos. the former trump campaign advisor. says the fbi owes america an explanation on how that investigation began. we're back with former south carolina congressman trey gowdy. he was the chairman of the house oversight committee, he is now a fox news contributor and congressman, i want to ask you about a conversation you and i had a couple of months ago which really went viral after we talked about it and it was about talking about an informant having a conversation with george papadopoulos which you actually saw the track represent and we have not seen that transcript. it's still classified, and i'm wondering why not. you said that's a game changer that one transcript. >> it certainly has the potential to be. why you haven't seen it yet, i am lost. i am clueless. it is not that level of classification that's going to impact relationships with our allies. it goes to a fundamental preset we have in this country when there is information and information tending to show a person did not commit a crime, that that information is

george papadopoulos. the former trump campaign advisor.st this morning says the fbi owes america an explanation on how that investigation began. we're back with former south carolina congressman trey gowdy. he was the chairman of the house oversight committee, he is now a fox news contributor and congressman, i want to ask you about a conversation you and i had a couple of months ago which really went viral after we talked about it and it was about talking about an informant having a conversation with george papadopoulos which you actually saw the track represent and we have not seen that transcript. it's still classified, and i'm wondering why not. you said that's a game changer that one transcript. >> it certainly has the potential to be. why you haven't seen it yet, i am lost. i am clueless. it is not that level of classification that's going to impact relationships with our allies. it goes to a fundamental preset we have in this country when there is information and information tending to show a person did not commit a crime, that that

garlic papadopoulos, yeah, i would like to call him. tell the world what kind of interactions he had, where he had them and what did he say that working with the russians and is there verification that he told the informants early on that russia would be treason in a crime i would never do that. if he did say that and they went ahead anyway, it raises a lot of concerns. maria: senator you've done a lot of work on this. this is my final question on the subject, who do you think is the mastermind of this? whose idea was it to insert donald trump into russia meddling? >> you know, i really am very curious about the role that cia played here. we know that the fisa -- this whole intelligence operation, what role did the cia play? he knew about this in the white house?there is a question! was president obama briefed on the fact that they were opening up the counterintelligence investigation against the trump campaign? i would like to know that. maria: in at the time john brennan was running cia. will you call him to testify? >> we will see. m

i've been hearing rumors about tapes involving papadopoulos. is that true as well?> well, we know there are transcripts. you and many members of congress on your show talking about it. those trend sieves would suggest there is tapes. we will eventually see the words that george papadopoulos used and whether the fbi properly disclosed incidents evidence to the fisa court. my sources tell me there's a big problem there. that happened on james comey's watch. >> sean: great reporting for john solomon, thank you. also, thanks to judicial watch, last name we first learned fbi agents and actually showed up in james comey's watch one month after he was fired to collect the confidential, yes, maybe illegal memos about the president that he had and that calmly and effectively stole from the government. so let's get this straight just to sum it up. super patriot jim comey sold classified materials from the government and link that information to the press. let's see, pre and meditative fraud, lied to a core, unverifiable evidence that he never tried to verify, lying to judges

they are investigating two people here, papadopoulos and carter page.ou donald trump did not spend 10 minutes with both of them. >> sean: i could guarantee it. did you see the gang of 8 briefing materials, where the fbi identified all the shortcomings of this narrative in 2018? the summer of 2018? do you see that, sir? >> no, i did not, because i'm not in the gang of 8, but i want you to see it. and this is not grand jury testimony that will be compromised. this is an investigation into your government and how it operated. every american should want to know as much as possible. every media outlet should be doing what these other groups are doing, suing to get the information out. i'm going to meet the attorney general this week to talk to him about how to best to tell the story. i don't want people to conjecture as to what happened. i want you to read it. i want you to see all the 302s we can possibly get to you. i want you to see the full fisa warrant application. i want to release the transcripts of the confidential informants talking to papadopoulos.

pop a papadopoulos, they said h, although, i want to hear those tapes. i want to hear those transcripts. from what i'm hearing, the papadopoulos transcripts are exculpatory and they withheld it. i'm hearing that from source after source of resource. michael cohen, paul manafort, papadopoulos, why does the same laws not apply to mccabe? should day and will they? >> they absolutely should. if i don't know if they will. i certainly hope so. what we do know is that mccabe actually lied three times under oath to the inspector general and he lied a fourth time, which he was not under oath. he also leaked information and remember, let's talk about this. he leaked information to "the wall street journal" to try to build himself up. he leaked information regarding the clinton foundation investigations. he really wanted to build himself up, but the thing was, comey even admitted that he never authorized mccabe to leak. so even if lisa page -- remember, the former attorney who was the lover of peter strzok -- even if she came out to a grand jury inside, he he may h

that would be what manafort, papadopoulos, flynn, and others got charged with, which andrew mccabe mayace. i have a problem if we don't apply our laws equally. the next will be the fisa abuse issue, that was the bulk of information, grassley-graham memo, saying them bulk of information was hillary's bought and paid for russian lies. my question to you, how devastating -- he said this will be devastating -- walk us through what you think is going to happen. >> what i think you are going to see, basically, an attempt to defraud the fisa court. that the dossier is not verified to this day. without the steele dossier, there would be no warrant issued against carter page. i think you are going to find pretty early on, there was no real belief that papadopoulos was actually working for the russians and had no real contract with the president. i want to repeat what i said earlier on in the interview. cnn has just hired the person horowitz is investigating for committing crimes against the trump campaign. cnn has just hired the person horowitz is investigating. how seriously do you think they

we also know the fbi ordered an undercover up to spy on george papadopoulos. let's not forget unprecedented level of unmasking and leaking raw intelligence and abuse of surveillance powers. how did samantha power ever -- what is it a u.n. ambassador and why she unmasking 300 million americans in 2016? she claims she didn't. okay, who did then? by the way the question comes down to this, what did obama, what did joe creepy, crazy sleepy uncle joe know? what did loretta lynch know, what did rice know, powers know, when did they know it? this question must be asked by law enforcement. it is time for obama to be put under oath. here is why. according to former u.s. attorney andy mccarthy and his new book "obama and oak -- biden were complacent. you couldn't have an operation like this unless the president of the united states. take a watch. >> the obama administration took the law enforcement and intelligence apparatus of our government and the service of the clinton campaign. counterintelligence investigation belong to the president. they are only done for one re

let's see, paul manafort, michael cohen, papadopoulos -- you get in trouble when you lie to the fbi. outright fraud is a stain on what is the greatest law enforcement agency on this planet. our fbi. but committing fraud on a fisa court was just, well, one of the many ways obama's government espied on members of an opposition party during an election. we know at least three trump campaign officials were spied on by fbi sources. we also know that the fbi ordered an undercover operative to spy on george papadopoulos, and let's not forget the unprecedented level of unmasking and leaking raw intelligence, and abusive surveillance powers. how did samantha pat samantha powernt ever -- a u.n. ambassador. why is she unmasking 300 americans in 2016? she claimed she didn't. who did that? the question is coming down to this. what did obama, what didn joe, creepy, crazy, sleepy uncle joe no? what did loretta lynch know? what did rice know? wanted powers not? when did they know what? this question must now be asked by law enforcement. it is time for obama to be put under oath. here's why. accordin

i know informants were at george papadopoulos that at the time was working on the trump campaign. he was told that russia had e-mails of hillary clinton and the informant said that would be good for the trump campaign, right? he said i would never do something like that. that would be treason. that is the conversation that was transcribed that apparently was not given to the fisa court. if you have evidence where you have a witness saying i would never do something like that, that is treason, of course not. you don't send that to the fisa court, tell me about that. >> absolutely. when people are seeking warrants, what they're responsibility is whether it's law enforcement or attorneys, they have to present to the court everything that they know. the most updated information possible and they have a continuing obligation to be diligent in ensuring that they present to the judges accurate information and they're not concealing potentially exonerating information. so that is the big question here. were these applications a fraud on the court? if they were, that is a crime. >> maria:

director and gates deputy director of the campaign are both charged for breaking a series of laws papadopoulos foreign affairs advisor to the campaign is charged for having lied to the f.b.i. . for promotion festive season and 0 d. and on his 1st targets to the. right here by the f.b.i. . for each. field. about his contacts with foreign nationals he's had a series of people in d.c. suddenly in deep deep trouble but those charged by muller become fair game for the press even if they're not directly linked to the russian. ference and in 2016 election. when the initial indictments were issued by miller people rightfully said wait a minute this is supposed to be about russia so what's going on and a lot of people have said none of this is collusion who cares why is moller charging these crimes if it's not collusion no collusion there's no collusion it seems to be the focus don't delude you know of russia no nothing no police no proof whatsoever present trumps reactions or that any time one of his colleagues or friends has been indicted or even pled guilty for him the litmus test of the bottom line

that would be what papadopoulos got in trouble for. have a problem with if we don't apply our laws equally. then, the next will be the fisa abuse issue. that was the bulk of informatio information, hillary's bought and paid for russian lies. my question to you is, how devastated, you believe you say this will be devastating. walk us through what you think will happen. >> what i think you've got to see is basically an attempt to defraud the fisa court. the dossier is not verified to this day without the steele dossier, they would have no warrant against carter page. i think you are going to find pretty early on that there was no proof that he was working for the russians and had no contact with the president. i want to repeat what i said earlier on in the interview. cnn has just hired the person he is investigating for commuting crimes against the trump campaign. cnn has just hired the person oe is investigating. it's really a shame. >> sean: let me run through a series of quick questions. if i committed premeditated fraud, do you think

to george papadopoulos, to roger stone? who is going to issue them an apology?t ought to be starting with james comey. >> sean: let me go to andy mccarthy, the title of your book says it all. you are the one who has brought into focus there is never a counterintelligence investigation, there's always the president's counterintelligence investigation. we have a rigged investigation into hillary, evidence was overwhelming incontrovertible, then we have the fisa abuse scandal, they never verified what was in those investigations, then you have the counterintelligence investigations, you say clearly that had to be barack obama's and lisa struck peter strzok a. speak i've tried to distinguish between counterintelligence investigations and criminal investigations, they are done to vindicate the rule of law and court proceedings and judicial cases, prosecutions. the only reason we do counterintelligence is to support the president's constitutional mission to protect the united states from foreign threats. i agree with my friend governor huckabee, this is very alarming

and then papadopoulos regurgitated to australia ambassador.involves ukraine. it involves italy. it involves u.k., australia at the bare minimum. who could do that for the cia? comey couldn't actually do that. comey could know about it, comey could be part of it, comey could be a player in it but somebody else is the brainchild of this. comey played his part as a liar to the court. there is no confusion about the crime. there is nothing clearer then you are swearing under penalties of perjury, name, james comey paragraph such and such, total like, go to jail. >> laura: he actually tweeted out last night. you might have missed this. he said he will keep speaking out against the president. he said i'd hold a former colleague i'm tired of being a trump critic. he responded with encouraging words that apply to all of us, where you see wrong, inequality or justice, speak out because this is your country. he is right, keep speaking out. >> james cardinal comey. >> laura: oh, my god. >> james cardinal comey. what a phony. and a total phony. he will ha

to george papadopoulos, to roger stone? who is going to issue them an apology? with james comey. >> sean: let me go to andy mccarthy. the title of your book says it all. you are the one who has brought into focus that there is never a counterintelligence investigation, it's always the president's counterintelligence investigation. we have a rigged investigation into hillary, evidence was overwhelming and incontrovertible, and the obstruction side. then we have the fisa abuse scandal, they never verified what was in those investigations. then you have the counterintelligence investigations, you say clearly that had to be barack obama's and strzok and page had texts going back and forth saying the white house wanted to be in the loop on any developments. >> yeah, sean, if you're going to do counterintelligence, that's done for the president. i tried to distinguish between counterintelligence investigations and criminal investigations. criminal end of in investigations are done to vindicate the cour rule of law d court proceedings, judicial cases, prosecutions. the

we've got to paul manafort, we've got michael cohen, papadopoulos.ould it not apply to mccabe and comey? >> you are right. look, andrew mccabe is a guy who has helped put people behind barst for lying, the same legal standard ought to apply to him if there is any justice in the system of justice. this was a criminal referral by ara neutral party, the inspector general at the department of justice, who said he lied not once, but four times. he said he never leaked information to the media, "the wall street journal." in fact, he did. he said he had no idea who authorized that week when, in fact, he is the one who authorized it. then he was allowed to correct the record and, and a tape-recorded interview, continued to spew his false denials. so again, if we are going to apply an equal standard of justice and not selective prosecution based on politics, andrew mccabe ought to be critically criminally prosecuted. >> sean: you know, one of the things that a very good friend of mine told me earlier today, that is very close to all of this, is that one of th

we can't have a dual justice system in this country and look at all the people that papadopoulos, mandaord, cohen, general flynn, which i want to ask you, when mccabe, when general flynn said well, i will need a lawyer mccabe told him no and then comey brags about doing something he wouldn't do in the obama or george w. bush administration that took advantage of the chaos and sent his guys and when they had already unmasked general flynn, they had a chapter and verse on everything he said. remember, the fbi guys didn't think flynn was lying. so then he addressed the question, well, why would he admit that he's language michael number one, is going bankrupt, number two, they are threatening his family. they are saying we are just going to have to go after your son, too. i think that's why he said i will fall on the sword for my family. that's what he did. that's how we treat a 33-year-old that that serves in combat. >> sean: mccabe is instrumental in that because he was essentially lying and deceiving and trying to entrap michael flynn to pursue the russia hoax against donald trum donald

it's not okay for george papadopoulos to be confused.y don't ask you -- because they don't give you that understanding. >> it's worse than that and i will tell you why. papadopoulos, the day that he didn't remember was of no consequence. and michael flynn and a lieutenant general for 30 years, even the fbi agents didn't believe that he was lying. they have to show that there is an actual intent to lie a bit more significant than that is the fact that when you were at that level of government, they try to make an example of view so that your wrongdoing is treated almost more severely than all of other people's and yet this guy is still walking around getting a job at cnn and riding a big book. >> brian: i find it interesting to hear it so i did not know this came into play. in deciding whether to go forward with the prosecution, they are going to look at the court and when she would be in front of and if they look at it as a liberal court with a conservative president, they might say this is not going to get to a conviction, is it worth m

certainly paid a tremendous price a lot of what is also in the foreign policy campaign theme george papadopoulos israel in this sure. has been tweeting out his book he is saying that there was a concerted attempt here in this country by your officials in the u.s. embassy in london who didn't want to elected basically clinton had a fan club across the diplomatic world here and go. they just didn't want your president elected well i think that. again i don't i don't like to speculate and we'll have to wait and see what comes out in these final official reports just fine they're going to what do you think do you think trump should take care with boris johnson because boris johnson there's a picture of him with professor miffs and of course the mysterious professor was implicated in trying to damage the. presidency of all trump do you think u.s. u.k. relations. a little bit more work needs to be done before forgiveness is the order of the day for the white house well i think you know there's a lot of positive steps that. the new prime minister has started to take and you know positive statements tha

lou: up next secretary of state mike papadopoulos. and rino paul ryan? he left the swamp? or did he? what is he saying? is he turning his back on the heartland so soon? we'll have that story and so much, right after the break, stay with us. lou: forever never trumpo rino, paul ryan too big for wayneville, wisconsin, a spokesperson said his family is temporarily renting a house in maryland, so his wife can be closer to her family. ryan made it clear, during his time in congress it was his career not his choice to brought him to dc, there you are. wondering what else has drawn him back to the swamp. a new poll shows joe biden commanding a double digit lead against the other 2020 dim presidential home fulls, cnn finding 29 percent of likely democrat idemocratic voters supy up, and kamala harris popularity plunged to 5%, down 12 points from june. similar numbers in "fox news poll" biden with 31% of democratic supporters and harris 8%. >> joining us tonight fox business political analyst. ed rollins. good to see you. let's start with biden is a hard man. >> you can't pay too mu

massoud was a long team western intelligence collaborate or who was tasked with reaching out to papadopoulosing connections for him in russia, if that is true. the beginning of origin of the russia case it a set up from the beginning, we need to get to the bottom of this there new evidence emerging. lou: you twice used that expression. dirty trick. i have to say, this was an effort to stop donald trump from being elected president. it was an effort to over throw his presidency, i think that the evidence is clear in that conclusion. not one they will try to qualify or equivkate. it rises to me, i want to understand your use of the expression dirty trick. it rises to me to a higher, and far more grievous crime than dirty trick. >> i agree, i think it will get there, i like to stay on the side of before all of the facts, a benefit of where things are. lou: you are a good man. >> so i want to wait until all of the facts are out, i will say, it is irrefutable. i think where we're headed next is emergences of strong evidence that the fbi knowingly and willfully misled the fisa court, and that u.s.

stefan helper and an undercover agent with the alias ezra turk to get information from george papadopoulos. were there other things they did to spy on the trump campaign? everybody is suspecting the answer in this report. shannon: you are standing by, thanks for joining us. donald trump canceling his weekend trip to poland as hurricane dorian gives strength, barreling toward the atlantic heading straight for florida, forecasters warning it could make landfall as a category 4. let's get to the fox extreme weather center, tracking this. >> lots of variables. the official forecast bring it to category 4 by landfall, going through fluctuations. we will see what happens. the latest advisory came out 10 minutes ago and here you go, winds of 105 miles an hour, category 2 hurricane now, getting more organized. hurricane hunters heaven flying in and out throughout the evening and will continue to do so but they are finding winds stronger and the pressure continues to drop. that means we see the storm strengthen, bring it to a category 3 tomorrow and by saturday evening a category for, remains that

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going to apply that standard to people who were in the trump orbit like michael flynn or george papadopoulosi think given the report here i think that spells doom for andy mccabe. >> tucker: victor davis hanson is a senior fellow at the hoover institution and a better man than we know it putting the news and context. you assess all of this in your conclusion is what? >> they keep seeing they classified -- who is they? the answer is disturbing because jim comey is high-fiving because he says he wasn't indicted or who wasn't going to be referred for indictment? why wasn't he given that report by the inspector general. of the seven memos he memorialized, these are private conversations with the president, he took four of them home and use them as an insurance policy in case something happened. when he was fired, he used them and he said they were confidential and not classified -- who made that determination? after it all blew up to the press, the fbi panicked and they said these hasn't been categorizes anything and let's go back and look at them. who were the four people who looked at them? we

and both human intelligence, people approaching people like george papadopoulos and carter page as welly issued but renewed 3 times even after they weren't finding any information about carter page that would indicate a collusion between the trump campaign and the russians, all goes to the fact that we would never want this ever to happen again for any presidential campaign in the future, so both republicans, democrats and independents all should be concerned about this investigation and want to see it through, i mean, if i were a democrat i would want to know why james comey we opened the investigation into hillary clinton a week before that election took place. i mean, this is something where you have an important government agency, the fbi, the most important law enforcement organization in the world, tens of thousands of people do great work every day to keep us safe, to solve crimes, a few people in that organization abuse their powers and look what we had as a result. david: one thing we do know, congressman, forgive -- one thing that we do know is how the fisa courts operated in

they also sent an undercover agent to try to get information out of george papadopoulos, the question a lot of people has is is that it? are there other things the fbi did to spy on the campaign, everyone is expecting the answer to that in this report. >> shannon: we know you most assuredly are standing by, thanks for joining us both of you. president trump canceling his weekend trip to poland, as hurricane dorian gained strength tonight. forecasters are warning it could make landfall as a category four, let's go right to the weather center, tracking this around-the-clock. >> lots of variables on that strength to bring it to a category four on landfall, the storms go through fluctuations and we'll see what happens. here you go, we have wins now 105 miles per hour, its sustained winds, category two. hurricane hunters have been flying in and out of there throughout the evening but continue to do so overnight. they are finding wins stronger and pressure continues to drop. we will continue to see the storm continued to strengthen, they will bring it to category three, then category four r

jim comey signed those warrants knowing there was not complete information included about george papadopoulos and carter page, that may be the true area where he has to be held to account. >> bill: let me take you back to april of last year, here is james comey quickly on abc defending himself. >> i gave that unclassified memo to my friend and asked him to give it to a reporter. that is appropriate. >> bill: so many thought this was not the end of it, do you think this charge was oversold? >> i never believed this was the strongest case we could make against jim comey but i think this behavior of his is certainly not blessed. you had the obama appointed inspector general, the field it was so concerning, even though that prosecution didn't occur, it doesn't mean it's good conduct and it's indicative of a broader dynamic under jim comey's leadership and that is the fbi believed their role wasn't to investigate crimes and make decisions. it was to shape public opinion through the press. that's why you continue to see andrew mccabe who was jim comey's deputy face potential criminal penalties as a

george papadopoulos said, i would never do something like that. we've heard this over and over again, which is, let's face it. it's like telling babe ruth about baseball. hillary clinton campaign, they are looking with a law firm. unbelievable conflict of interest right there. on the other side of the equation, they go crazy. that's horrible, but over here it's fine. because, by the way, it's only the opposition. that meeting at trump tower. i'm glad you asked about that. what happened there, is they dangled something like bait for fishing. saying they had admission. they didn't. >> maria: we have three investigations going on. we have bill barr, and you've got lindsey graham as well and the senate. he said, wait till the inspector general comes out. he is not going to be kind to the department of justice. watch this. >> you got the inspector general report, that i think will be coming out in weeks, not days, not months. i think the report is going to be ugly and, regarding the handling of the russian probes. >> i heard that. i saw that when he wa

thanks in part to his efforts, george papadopoulos and many others had their lives destroyed.used of making false statements to federal agents. roger stone faces life in prison for a trial that starts in november for that crime. and scored dell according to an inspector general report even as he was winning effort to destroy the lives of others per line, it andrew mccabe was himself lying. would he get the same treatment that his victims are getting? federal prosecutors are weighing that question right now, and how about jim comey? does another inspector general's report about him that also from possible criminal behavior, president of judicial watch, as generally, he joins us how to sort it out. first to the andrew mccabe question. will mccabe face the consequences that so many others have faced for this? >> i don't know. you raised these other folks that were targeted. general flynn was ambushed thanks to andrew mccabe's conduct. he was referred for criminal investigation for april of last year. he's already gotten special treatment in the sense the justice department has be

secondly, if i am papadopoulos and general flynn, i am sort of happy.ause i might use this report to overturn or at least try to overturn my convictions. >> harris: all right. guy lewis, we will have you back when all of this brakes, to compare what you predicted to what happened. i could tell you from past extremes with you that you are usually right. guy lewis, thank you very much. good to see. >> [laughs] >> harris: here's the breaking news we are watching right now. it follows what we saw last hour on "outnumbered." we know the police officer who put a choke hold on eric garner here in new york city was let go from his job from commissioner james o'neill in new york city. we are anticipating that eric garner's family -- not sharpton, as you see there -- we are waiting and watching for his family to come to the microphone. when that happens we will take it to you live. keep. >> it was there established. with drivewise. it lets you know when you go too fast... ...and brake too hard. with feedback to help you drive safer. giving you the power to actual

george papadopoulos, michael flynn.gators, for a lot of people come you will go to jail. for all of us probably on this couch, we'd be in serious trouble. but there are so many unique, special things about this. we know he has had frontal meetings, or his legal team has come with a couple of top prosecutors. that suggests they wrapping this up making a decision. that's the last time your team has to go in there to make a case of defense for you. there are things like injury in washington. we know how that would play out. when it so high-profile, yes that all along this is political in nature. there's a lot of people who might listen to that argument, that conversation, and won't want to seem like they are a political one way or the other. but with a case like this, it's almost impossible to escape the conclusion that someone is going to draw. whether you go for him in prosecuting or whether you don't. in some ways -- >> katie: is that ultimately up to the u.s. attorney? >> shannon: they will have to decide. >> kennedy:

halbert and contracting him while he was apparently working for the fbi with everybody from george papadopouloscarter page and donnelly only knows what else and now svetlana but is accusing him of planning all these falseo stories and he even goes as far as saying even if we planted false stories, that's all right because we would have been working for u.s. intelligence. so just think about that and how that plays into this coup. really it was a soft coup against president trump and how they are all trying to protect themselves. >> sean: do you see the five investigations, including john solomon's belief that there will be a separate leak investigation and my belief that the work that the durham interviewing steele and barr is doing will be the tip of the iceberg in terms of the intelligence community? do you agree with andy mccarthy, gregg jarrett, that if it was a counterintelligence investigation, that goes right into it barack obama's oval office with him sitting there and approving it because it would have to be his? >> obsolete here we already know that from a text message from page sayin

if you're going to apply that standard -- people like michael flynn michael flynn or papadopoulos, whymccabe? we don't know that they're not going to do it. i think that given the report here, given the fact the doj couldn't act because they probably didn't have the right case, i think that spells doom for andy mccabe. >> tucker: thank you for that. >> thank you for you for havin. >> tucker: better men than anyone we know at putting the news in context. thank you for coming on today. so you assess all of this and your conclusion is what? >> the keep saying they classified and they, they, they, who is they? and the answer is pretty disturbing, because jim comey is high-fiving tonight because he said he wasn't indicted or he wasn't going to be referred for indictment. why wasn't he given that report by the inspector general? and the reason he wasn't was of the seven memos that he memorialized, these were private phone and person-to-person conversations with the president, he took four of them home and use them as an insurance policy in case something would happen. when he was fired, he u

roger stone and george papadopoulos, for example, hurt no one. country in the navy. the least we could do to remedy this is to make certain the r people responsible for the fiasco pay some price for what they did. fbi spy peter strzok was fired after he was caught in a politically biased text. now, strzok is suing the fbi saying he should not have been fired in the first place. buck sexton is a former cia "the buck sexton show," what on what grounds it sees doing? >> well, i think you have to ask a question, what did he get fired from the fbi? because he suing that his rights are being violated here and that he was essentially just anothere guy in government expressing an opinion. also there is due process that we set has been violated as well. here's the reality that he wasn't just a guy saying i don't like the president and normal fbi stuff, looking on cases of kidnapping and terrorism, he was investigating the president of the united states and the whole russia collusion hoax, as we now know, and saying this stuff on official devices. really h

a backdoor way, joseph misfud, stefan helper looking into carter page, sam clovis, and geroge papadopoulos. all right, stay right there, yot were going to be with us. for the rest of this hour. joining us live now on the phone, former new york mayor, mr. rudy giuliani. the amount of contact with christopher steele, who everybody knew, and thenen confirmed by this point, lying, leaking, hated trump, and feeding the special counsel's office through his conduit bruce ohr? really? >> sean, we have known this for a year. >> sean: yes. now we have confirmation. >> i think i investigated this a year ago when i took on his defense. you can't believe what's going to come out. and this is a dramatic revelation now. bruce ohr should have been prosecuted, and his wife is a conflict of interest ten months ago. it's because we had a justice department that was completely warped. the fact is, these are crimes that are shocking. these are crimes that go to the very heart of our republic. these people had a plan to stop the republican candidate from getting elected and then they executed a plan to remove h

fund-raising for his legal defense fund alongside another convicted trump campaign adviser george papadopoulos in a prosecution that derived from the mueller investigation. nice group of guys. on friday the judge in mike flynn's case district court judge emmet sullivan said, yes, gave mike flynn permission to go to that event, but meanwhile, reporters at mother jones pointed out this isn't a typical fund-raiser, even for multiple mueller investigation felons. it's a fund-raiser organized by a prominent supporter of the q non conspiracy theory which is a far right very engaging conspiracy theory based on the belief that there is a global ring of satanic pedophile that's donald trump and mueller are working together to take down. so dan he friedman and this digital soldiers thing is part was a big promotor of the q anon-conspiracy. and in fact the logo for the conference is the american flag with a big "q" on it. so it wasn't that subtle. the organizer, for the record, denied that the "q" on the flag had anything to do with the "q" conspiracy theory, but he said that he totally believes that the