i'm from parametric. i've got justin henny and kelley hillquist. >> i think the board had a lot of questions last time that they want some answers to, so why don't you just go ahead and jump in and start addressing those. >> okay. that's what i had hoped to do. so do you want me to just go through them? >> yeah. answer the questions. >> why index futures, i'm reading from slide four, exchange traded futures yallow us to remove the secured indexes. >> are there slides? >> it's attached to the recommendation. >> attached to item [ inaudible ]. >> did you get it? no, there's no slides attached to item 12. >> attached to the memo? >> no slides. i don't have any slides. >> oh, they might be 11, you might be in the guidelines. [ inaudible ] >> i'm sorry. >> two different pieces of material. first. >> my mistake. i thought we were on item 12. so yeah, index -- so in other words, index futures are another way to invest in indexes. they have a different structure, but the same result is index eft and mutual funds,