appropriate, however, the information is cable e applicable to other alleys through developments like parcelp. p and octavia the developers volunteered to through certain directions of ours to implemented closing an alley on hickory this verbatim there are driven projects this information is good for everything but information in the tool kits it specifically help people to use this. >> you mentioned getting the city to take probability for the improvement how does it work now. >> how does it work now i wish i had my diagram so for major streets like encroachment the design costs the fund costs of improvement and the maintenance costs which includes liability insurance for the trees and pavement are incumbent upon the entity so i have a model for example that demonstrates that overall costs 20-year cycle e community college is $20,000 the constriction increment is for 250 to $400,000 the design is $175,000 you'll have that the first in construction as well as design is incumbent upon those community groups so we have this fund $2 million to before sgrb to offset that construction costs there