i would recommend to you and to the listeners a great article by christian parenti called back of thens on race, region, and violence, published in an online journal called nonsite.org. what parenti finds is that in some regions, in some zip codes, actually whites are killed by police at a higher relative rate than blacks. obviously in many others, the pattern is reverse. >> why would it be reverse, professor? so people understand. because this argument always gets mired into relativism. >> right. >> black people commit more crime. yeah, but not as a percentage of population. yeah, but it's a lot of black on black crime also. if you had to pick one thing to leave this audience with as an idea tonight about where we have to focus to think about how to get to a better place, what is it? >> it's that blacks are killed disproportionately. hispanic are killed disproportionately. poor people are killed disproportionately, of whatever race. and the other point is that disparities are significant, but every year the plurality of people killed by police are in fact white. and that leads to the