let's talk to the labour mp paul flynn, who is the joint chair of the all—party parliamentary group for are listened to — and sarah wootton, from the campaign group dignity in dying. thank you all forjoining. paul flynn, i want to start with you. when you saw this report, when you read it, did you have any idea of the scale of what was quite an? no, it was a great shock, and it will send fear, certainly to my generation — i'm over 80 —— the scale of what was going on. we have to put trust in those looking after us, and that trust is probably properly placed, but this is a terrifying example of people who have died because of overdoses supplied to them. we are dealing with people who were taking a drug thatis with people who were taking a drug that is extremely dangerous, and it seemed to be used in a way that is cavalier, and shorten the lives of these people. people in this small hospital, all these people that were involved. it is a huge number of people to have their lives shortened ina way people to have their lives shortened in a way that seemed to be either incompetent or worse. w