i think the parra mount issue is recovery for taxpayers, once these loans are made for policy purposes, based on my experience in the commercial world, i think that the -- in this case the department of energy should have some flexibility to suborder nature. that may be best twi recover some money for taxpayers. by suborder naturing, it may make it possible to tract additional funding from other debt investors which can help that project succeed. sometimes these projects are going to run into trouble. they are, after all, risky. but that doesn't mean everything has to be lost. and there needs to be creative refinancing for projection as a way to protect taxpayers. and actually, enhance the probability that they'll get some of their money back. >> it seems to me that subordination in the case of solyndra did not work to accomplish that goal. thank you. i want to ask about bonus payments to follow up on what you said about taxpayers and getting the value for their money. several department of energy loan and grant recipients recently filed for bankruptcy. they laid off workers. they expe