the health and safety of the american people is parra mouni . it really troubles me. the other thing that troubles me is i have, you know, i feel much more comfortable if i knew that the oil that was coming down to be refined from canada, to be refined in texas went for domestic consumption in the united states, i sat through hearings that this committee has had. i'm still not satisfied or convinced that that oil isn't going to get shipped to china or some other place. so those are some of the questions that i have about this. >> mr. chairman, just for the record, i misstated. i said the word coal. i didn't mean coal. i meant oil. this is the dirtiest source of oil in the tar sands. that's what i meant. >> glad you were not talking about coal. >> no, we're not. i wouldn't want to take you on on that issue. >> at this time i would like to introduce the panel. the second panel. we have witness retired brigadier general stephen anderson, united states army, who is originally from california. and we have mr. randal thompson who is a rancher in nebraska and we welcome you