we have seen a significant uptick in stem students at our place, particularfully biology. very high right now. we had 2,000 -- 12,000 applicant ford 850 places. 2,000 of whom were for biology. >> guest: i think biology is something people want. >> host: doing very well and might be the foot me pred and also the path to a lot of -- no biotech. >> host: so that has not suffered so much. but some others, physics has declined somewhat but physics was never the most popular major in any campus. >> guest: but if you look what the call the physical sciences, science minus biology, there's been a huge drop, and part of it is because we're not funding basic vive, but that's not an answer. that's a problem. >> host: we need more people -- >> guest: it's about not making the investment that are going to keep us prosperous, strong and free, generation down the line. >> host: when are you going to run for congress so you can change this? you and i will not be able to change that dynamic, i'm afraid. we would like to, but it's a political solution. it's an economic solution and a politic