but there were a lot of audience questions and was there one or two that stood out that stood out particularl? because technically we only have five more minutes on the panel. i'm happy to have one or two audience questions. >> i think you should know you have won the jackpot thus far on audience questions. this one goes to you and draws on remark from previous panel. why can't the ic inform the american people about how many phone records were collected pursuant to 215 and make disclosure regarding the u.s. person collection under 702 and eo12333, understanding you're not trarg eting specifically u.s. persons but the u.s. person incidental collection. >> so that's a good question. i don't want to duck it. i will say, i'm going to in a certain way. but, no, i don't want to -- i guess i'm not getting into the specifics of like 215 or 702 et cetera. what i will say is there are two challenges. i understand the interest and i understand the importance. one is technical capability. can you in fact count it? and for some things, some activities, you should be able to count. but for other ones, the