are now joined on the communicators by debbie goldman of the communication workers of america, and parul desai. if we can start with you, ms. goldman. the cwa has supported this deal, why? >> we think it's good for the consumers and workers. right now we are moving in the wireless industry and into the next generation of wireless technology. and that's going to take both tens of billions of dollars in investment to get us there and it's going to require a lot more spectrum. right now people are aware that on their wonderful mobile divisions that they want to stream video, that they want to get on the internet and search with web pages. in many places, they are experiencing their dropped calls. there's a great need for more spectrum and a great need for the capital to invest in the next generation networks. we see that this merger will enable the merge to at&t to do that. so that's good for consumers. >> how is it good for cwa,? >> it's good for workers because right now behave experienced a situation in mitigating circumstance where we've seen declining living standards for working peopl

as we continue our look at the at&t-t-mobile proposed deal, we are joined by debbie goldman and parul desai. ms. goldman the cwa has already come out in support of this deal. why? guest: right now we are moving in the wireless industry into the next generation of wireless technology. and that is going to take both tens of billions of dollars in investment to get us there and it is going to require a lot more spectrum. right now, people are aware that on their wonderful mobile devices that they want to stream video, get on the internet and search web pages. in many places it, that are experiencing dropped calls. there is a great need for more spectrum and a great need for the capital to invest and the next generation network. we see that this merger will enable at&t to do that. so that is good for consumers. host: how is it good for cwa? guest: it is good for workers because we are experiencing a situation where we have seen declining living standards for the working people over the past three decades. a lot of that is tied to the fact that many of our employers have seen that they wan

parul desai of the consumer's union. thank you for being on the communicators. we are goined by bob goodlatte. a member of the house judiciary committee. a member of the internet subcommittee. you will be holding hearings on this deal. what are you looking to find out. >> obviously two things. we want to determine if this deal is a good idea. if it is creating the largest wireless company in america. it raises competition issues with services and pricing. is this going to be helpful to the consumer or harmful. and secondly, we are just beginning this process. they have a responsibility to review this under our anti-trust laws. we have to make certain they are reviewing this. we have an oversight responsibility. to ensure that they conduct the review with the fairness and commitment that -- committment that is -- commitment to this. we are in the fifth day of it. there is not yet allowed to be determined, but we want to make certain that we pursue this aggressively and diligently, and we will try to provide a forum for the individuals and we will debate the impli

. >>>> parul? >> as i mentioned, i don't think there are any condition that is will alleviate the harms that will come out. at&t hasn't shown why it needs t-mobile assets and spectrum to build out and reach the goals of 95% of broadband to the population. 95% of the population. at&t has lots of spectrum, they have quality spectrum, like the 700 megahertz. they just haven't invested that spectrum. verizon has launched test networks with respect to 4g. i don't think that at&t has made the case that it needs t-mobile spectrum to reach the goal of 95%. they can do it without the acquisition of t-mobile. >> we are out of time, unfortunately. desai -- parul desai of the consumers unions and debbie goldman of the communications workman of america. thank you for being on the communicators. we are joined by bob goodlatte, republican of virginia, who's remember of the house judiciary committee, in fact, he's chairman of the intellectual property, competition, and the internet subcommittee. congressman goodla

america's foundation and i wanted to say thank you so much for visiting were being part of creating parul what is necessary to ensure the commission that was envisioned to care for >> one of the things we try to build in the consumer agency directly in the statute was a strong role for the public accountability, so flexible the bureau needs to review its rules and get input on how it's doing the rules that are out there, the agency is going to have an ad for is recounts the for the input. there's a whole bunch of transparency issue is built into the statute so one thing you can do is make sure you are affording yourself the opportunity to get put into the content. >> i think as zach is saying, more broadly before coming up here there is almost a collective amnesia descending on capitol hill and washington and elsewhere in the country about the financial crisis we went through two years ago. people kind of forgot we had it and why we had and why we had to fix it. and all ready to go back to whatever we were doing before, and i think that's dangerous for the country, so i think groups like