pasternak, and i want to be very clear about this. i think it is something we should start looking into and know about. as you said, mr. pasternak started getting involved in started doing deals with the ukrainian defense industry, starting at the time of the conflict began in 2014. and now one of his projects with the ukrainian defense industry is under investigation. it's not him, and it is not his company itself, but it's the deal that is under investigation in the ukraine, and that investigation started july 22nd so i just think that there are different threads we need to pulld out here and find out exactly what is going on especially since representative schiff is throwing out a lot of baselessas charges, but it would be interesting to know since people are making so many charges about ukraine and russia, let's get to the bottom of it all. >> laura: yeah, let's throw all the facts out there. and it did seem his focus became more ukraine-centered after his pasternak help. >> this is another thing that i think, i believe probably a