to pat brown, pat brown, isn't it true that there are dna test that is can be done in the field?>> well, there are those that can be done quite quickly. i want to say something about the clothing. what if it's her blood and that's all they have? maybe they thought they were going to have his blood on it so they could make the arrest it comes back, oh, my god, it's just her blood. >> you're absolutely right, pat. but what they're saying is we don't know about the shirt because dna, quote, takes a long time. it doesn't take a long time. >> that may be the excuse because they're stuck at the moment. >> that is a lie. that is not true. do they think everybody are idiots? there are lawyers and scientists like dr. perper out there, people with expertise like the lawyers on this panel, you, a criminal profiler, shindil, the former deputy inspector. we all know you can get a dna result back in less than three days, so why are they putting this out there? mary snow, why are police and yale university police, the campus police, too, i might add, stated at the beginning there's no sign of f

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pat brown, let me come back to you right away here. because you alluded to something before we were on the break. we do have a report that in 2003 when clark was a high school senior, his then girlfriend told police that he had forced her to have sex with him and confronted her when she said she wanted to break up. now, she didn't press charges. what does this mean to you as a profiler about understanding this behavior that he's now accused of? >> well, that's a pretty scary behavior. of course, we don't have any proof that it's true. maybe a he said/she said, but it apparently was taken pretty seriously by the police, at least. and you have to wonder what kind of guy does this kind of thing. what kind of man forces sex on a woman or what kind of man won't let the woman go? and there's something else very fascinating. at that point, he joined an asian club. if he turns out to be the right guy, and we all think he probably is, with all the evidence coming up, but if he committed this crime, he's not the kind of person that has a lot of

maybe she walked in on something unfortunate. >> larry: pat brown, has he got a point?not. i think it's a ludicrous theory, if i ever heard one. this is a very secure campus. >> well, i disagree with the lady. >> hold on, hold on. >> let me finish. >> larry: judge, judge, i'll hold you in contempt, judge. >> this is a secured area, so you have to get in with a card, that's number one. number two, the reason the body was hidden there was because this was not a terribly well premeditated crime. in other words, this was a rage crime, possibly with sexual intent to it. and once he's committed this, he's got a problem. he can't just run out the door, because the body will be found immediately. he works in that building, he's got to hide the evidence, people will see him in his shirt, they're going to find the body and he doesn't want to be around when that happens. he did a good job, he hid her. five days it took. he gets to go home, clean up, shower, he's got five days, he's got time to work with. he's hope iing it won't be foun. >> larry: pat? >> yes. >> larry: are you con

joining us is thomas kaplan and criminal profiler pat brown, who's in washington. let me start with you, thomas. have we learned anything more about the relationship between the two or how he would know her or how he would have her phone number? >> well, it's a great question. i think what is thought right now is perhaps they did have some contact in the laboratory, given that annie worked with these mice and raymond clark, he took care of them. it seem that's the only way they came into contact. there have been reports of e-mails or perhaps text messages between them, but clearly no romantic link according to the police, but it is kind of a mystery what the contact was and what their professional relationship was like. >> is there any buzz around the lab now about what kind of employee this guy was? i mean, some suggested that may be he was highly controlling and this was kind of his fiefdom. what are you learning just from the buzz around the lab? >> yeah. there have been those media reports saying he was a control freak, he was very territorial, very protective

pat brown, criminal profiler and ceo of the pat brown criminal profiling agency. dr. dale archer, clinical psychiatrist. brian santoro, who has known raymond clark since he was 12, joins me by phone. brian, hang in there. i'll be right with you. first, randi kaye, cnn correspondent on the ground in new haven, connecticut. randi, you have some information about how they tracked raymond clark? tell us about it. >> reporter: i do, jane. we talked to the source today who has very good knowledge of this investigation, very close to it. and he told me that they have been tracking raymond clark since before annie le's body was even found. he raised their suspicion when they saw him after viewing about 700 hours of videotape from the lab building security camera. they noticed him, i'm told, on that video walking out of the building after someone, possibly him i'm told, pulled the fire alarm the day of the murder. they saw him on that videotape walking out of the building with his head in his hands, looking especially distraught. i can also tell you tonight that they -- the sa

pat brown, criminal profiler and ceo of the pat brown criminal profiling agency. dr. dale archer, clinical si psychiatri psychiatrist. ryan sartarro, who has known raymond clark since he was 12 years old. hang in there. i will be right with you. first, randi kaye, cnn correspondent on the ground in new haven, connecticut. randi, you have new information about how they tracked raymond clark. tell us about it. >> reporter: i do, jane. we got to talk to the source today who has some very good knowledge of this investigation and is very close to it. he told me they have been tracking raymond clark since before annie le's body was even found. he raised their suspicion when they saw him after viewing about 700 hours of videotape from the lab building security camera. they noticed him, i'm told, on that video walking out of the building after someone, possibly him, i'm told, pulled the fire alarm the day of the murder. they saw him on that videotape walking out of the building with his head in his hands, looking especially distraught. i can also tell you tonight that they --

pat brown, criminal profiler and ceo of the pat brown criminal profiling agency. dr. dale archer, clinical psychiatrist. brian santoro, who has known raymond clark since he was 12, joins me by phone. brian, hang in there. i'll be right with you. first, randi kaye on the ground in new haven, connecticut. randi, you have some information about how they tracked raymond clark? tell us about it. >> reporter: i do, jane. we talked to the source today, who has very good knowledge of this investigation, very close to it. and he told me that they have been tracking raymond clark since before annie le's body was even found. he raised their suspicion when they saw him after viewing about 700 hours of videotape from the lab building security camera. they noticed him, i'm told, on that video walking out of the building after someone, possibly him i'm told, pulled the fire alarm the day of the murder. they saw him on that videotape walking out of the building with his head in his hands, looking especially distraught. i can also tell you tonight that they -- the same source with kno

pat brown a criminal profiler believes this is the result of a man being obsessed over a woman. i heard you say that no one just snaps like this. what do you mean. >> what happens in these instances, people like to jump and say, the guy snapped. he was a great guy yesterday, he's always been a great guy. no one's ever found a thing wrong with the guy and suddenly he's a killer. i can't imagine any circumstance that i would do such a thing, kill somebody, except maybe if they're in the middle of raping my child, i might shoot them in the head, if they were in the process of doing it. i wouldn't go, oh, gee, you didn't deliver my mail on time so i'm going to kill the mailman. this is isn't about the cleanliness of a cage, this is about him. >> it just sickens me because when something like this happens the people they're attacking, are our mothers, my daughter, my wife. it's incredible. i have been drawn to the fact and i'm wondering what your take is on this. i have been braun to the fact in this case that he had sent her a message on the very same day he met her, which happens t

. >> joining me right now, pat brown, criminal profiler, author of "killing for sport." brown, what to you think of motive? >> i think he's one of those kind of obsessive stalkers. remember that thing happened back in his high school where he had that little incident with his girlfriend? i'm thinking that's the same kind of thing. he has power and control issues, he likes to control women, he's a date rapist kind if he's guilty. that's what he wanted. he wanted this girl, she didn't want him, he got angry about it and he took it out on her. >> he's got a fiancee with a wedding date. >> one woman is not necessarily a month. the woman who is dissing you may be the woman who hasn't given you the time of day and not enough respect. it's a psychopath's mind and just because you got the woman, he got what he want. >> to dr. dell tito, professor of psychiatry, what do you make of a possible motive? >> i think we don't know enough to put a motive together. i think that your previous guest is doing wild speculation and we don't know enough about what's going on here and i don't t

pat brown, criminal profiler and ceo of the pat brown criminal profiling agency. dr. clark. ryan hang in there i'll be right with you but first randi kay, cnn correspondent on the ground in connecticut. you have information how they tracked raymond clark? tell us about it. >> i do, jane. we got to talk with a source today who has very good knowledge of this investigation, is very close to it. he told me they have been tracking raymond clark since before annie le's body was even found. he raised their suspicion when they saw him after viewing about 700 hours of videotape from the lab building security camera. they noticed him, i'm told, on that video walking out of the building after someone, possibly him, i'm told, pulled the fire alarm the day of the murder. they saw him on that videotape walking out of the building with his head in his hands looking especially distraught. i can also tell you tonight that they -- the same source with knowledge of the investigation is also telling me that they did confirm that the victim's dna was found on raymond clark's body. >> wow

to pat brown, criminal profiler, author of "killing for sport." take the letter to the newspaper, why wouldn't you take it to the police? but then i think of the btk serial killer in kansas. there were a lot of letters that were given to the news media, actually written by the killer himself in that, and a it helped solve the crime. >> right. there's a number of reasons, jean. unfortunately, you have to weigh is it this one or is it that one? one possibility is the person is just speak seeking atension. they know if they go straight to the police department it might go in with a bunch of tips, might get ignored but if they take it to the press that might get out there and they might get some attention. that's one possibility. another possibility is they're afraid of the police and don't want to have any contact with the police but they actually have real information. but the police get this all the time. so the problem is is this stuff -- is there any meaning behind it does it make any sense or do we have somebody who thinks they're a psychic and

pat brown, criminal profiler.let me ask you, what are the photos of that mind-boggling mess, filth, disarray, gross stuff, piled, the dirty dishes, it goes on and on, what does it say about this man's state of mind? >> i would say it's not terribly interested in that aspect of his life. he's too interested in what he can control when it comes down to little people. what's really frightening is did he get ahold of a couple little girls before jaycee that didn't cooperate the way jaycee did? it takes a while -- you have to get the right kid. if the kid doesn't seem to go along with the program and objects too much, you know, you might want to get yourself another one. >> well, yeah, that's what's really scary. lisa bloom, they're saying that there are concrete slabs on the property, and those concrete slabs could hide the scent of human decomposition. that's why they brought in the cadaver dogs, archaeological dogs who can tell whether these are very old bones, let's say a native american burial ground, or if these

. >>> joining us from washington this morning, criminal profiler pat brown. morning. >> good morning. >> as we heard, authority dogs thought suspect foul play, but in your experience, the fact that this happened so close to the wedding, is that a coincidence or is it possible that somebody here got kcold fet or and did something about it? >> that's good question and evening it's interesting that they're saying they don't suspect foul play at all. i don't know where they would get that from. one of two things would have happened. one is she staged a disappearance like we had with jennifer will banks because she wanted out or she wanted attention. and just vanished. and in that case we should see some behaviors in her past that show she has that kind of personality, but if she doesn't have that attention seeking personality at all, then we would have to suspect foul play because what else would it be there? >> so will police look at her ex-boyfriend no matter what? is that who you go to right off the bat in in kind of investigation? i'm sorry, her fiance. >> we

joining me to talk about that, criminal profiler pat brown. clinical psychologist, michelle.and dr. lawrence cob lynn ski, a forensic scientist. larry, i want to start with you, my friend. they went back to the scene of the crime. the csi folks have already been over that thing. they ripped down the crime scene tape. what could they possibly be going back to it for? >> that's a very good question, ashleigh. because we try to collect all the evidence the first time around. i mean, you really don't want to leave any stone unturned. some crime scenes you have an opportunity to go back and look through it again. my suspicion is, now that they have all of the evidence, and they have a cause of death, they will be going back to ascertain for certain that there are no other suspects that need to be looked at. and there may be some additional evidence that they have not yet found. trace evidence is sometimes difficult to collect. and they just want to make sure that all the is are dotted and ts are crossed. >> pat brown, in your line of work, criminal profiling, do you think that the

. >>> joining us now from washington is criminal profiler pat brown. good morning, pat. we talked about this on friday. now that we have seen how this case has progressed what do you make of it? >> well, i'm not surprised actually. it was very unlikely she had left the building since they had looked at all the videotapes. there was no way that she was any kind of run away owing bride. a lot of times people say, pat, are you anti-victim because you said that woman shouldn't have been out jogging at night or shouldn't get drunk and go home with a strirng, no i'm just trying to warn women. but annie's friends said nothing foomish in her life. she was like the perfect, perfect person if he were a mom i'd lover her for a daughter. it's actually this one makes me cry. it's really depressing. . she did nothing wrong except go to work. so my guess is the only fault she could have is that she was too nice that she was too sweet, and that somebody that she worked with she didn't realize that they were obsessing over her. that's what my guess is in this. i don't see a serial killer

to pat brown, criminal profiler, author of "killing for sport."per? why wouldn't you take it to the police? but then i think of the btk serial killer in kansas. there were a lot of letters that were given to the news media, actually written by the killer himself in that case and helped solve the crime. >> right. there's a number of reasons, jean. unfortunately, you have to weigh is it this one or is it that one? one possibility is the person is just seeking attention. they know if they go straight to the police department it might go in with a bunch of tips, might get ignored but if they take it to the press that might get out there and they're going to feel like they got some attention. that's one possibility. another possibility is they're afraid of the police and don't want to have any contact with the police but they actually have real information. but the police get this all the time. so the problem is is this stuff -- is there any meaning behind it? in other words, does it make any sense or do we have somebody who thinks they're a psychic an

. >>> let's bring in criminal profiler pat brown.good morning to you. >> good morning, matt. >> if you look at the facts we've just learned from jeff, if these are all true, we've got a guy with scratch marks on his body, defensive wounds. he perhaps has failed a polygraph. he had access to that secure lab where the murder allegedly took place, and yet he's not in custody. they must have this guy under complete 24-hour surveillance. >> absolutely. they don't have to bring him in as long as they know exactly where he is, and they're keeping an eye on him. they want to make sure they have those ducks in a row before they actually go ahead with the arrest because they want to make sure their probable cause is good enough. >> where the murder allegedly took place, if we stick with this potential suspect for a second and this is someone who worked in that lab, he had to know it would have been discovered sooner or later where he works which pretty much ties him to the crime. what does it tell you about the planning or the lack thereof? >>

criminal profiler pat brown is the author of "killing for sport inside the minds of serial sirls."ginning some wondered whether this is the case of a run-away bride. from the human remains in that lab, this is awful turn of events for this young girl's family. still, what do we make of her body was found in the wall, there was this fire alarm, a false alarm. it seems like a lot of planning may have gone into this. >> i don't know they call it planning because at that point it was probably desperation. i don't believe this is premeditated and i don't think it's a serial killer. i think someone is obsessed with her and someone who knew her well that she wouldn't be scared of and he knew his way around. once you've committed this crime, you've got a problem. one thing, you might have bloody clothes on which is why you would take them off and stick them in a ceiling tile and you don't want the body found right away because you're still there. fire alarm is interesting. we looked at that originally to see if sme left the building or someone took her out of the building. now who didn't l

let's ask criminal profiler pat brown to weigh in on the case, good morning to you, pat. >> good morningmay have happen and i think we can safely rule out the run away bride concept, but what do you think may have happened to annie le, the yale graduate student. >> i don't want to comment on the runaway bride thing, it comes up these days when somebody is getting married and goes missing and this is so, so sad, because annie le i think will end up horrifyingly representing what i would call the most innocent of all victims and we don't have somebody involved in drug dealing and shot shot or got drunk and home with a stranger or jogging in the middle of the night and somebody who did anything, even foolish. she was going about apparently her normal routine and even wrote of the -- piece about that, you have to be careful and she was on campus, doing what she normally does, working, and it just is horrifying to think, even somebody who does not even one foolish thing, can have this happen to them and i think, something horrible has happened to annie le. >> alisyn: good point, we talked to

ronnie brown, former auburn tiger plays for the dolphins and pat white got in a bunch of snaps last week with the dolphins as their backup quarterback in their wildcat formation. let's see what jarrett brown can do. looked discon sered after the last sum of sequences after that interception. >> bob: west virginia connells out in the standard i-formation. it's the change-up because you never see it. >> mark: devine got off to a quick start in the first quarter brought down by thorpe and stevens. picked up six on the play. devine last week ran for 80 yards in their victory against

a couple profilers, pat brown, specifically here after the break. woman: caitlin's pretty competitive. we're halfway through a game of monopoly and she is snapping up hotels left and right. her little brother-- not so much. then she did something nice and i pretended not to notice. i knew she'd want it that way. man: roll the dice. girl: family moments cost less at walmart. monopoly championship edition and other hasbro games at unbeatable prices. save money. live better. walmart. at unbeatable prices. new anti-aging eye roller. reduces puffiness immediately -- and also helps with lines and wrinkles. not surgery. this is our way to do your eyes. new regenerist anti-aging eye roller. ♪ love stinks! >>> welcome back. we are learning much more this morning about raymond clark, the yale student charged with the murder of le. >> lab workers are telling us about ray clark. i want to show you what we are learning about him. according to some of the co-workers, he was quote, a control freak." he had no romantic interest with the victim, annie le, and he is

pat brown is a criminal profiler.ood morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> carolyn, if i can start with you, police are not letting people know what the motive is, but they say this is workplace violence. how do you define workplace violence, and what are the red flags that can go up that could let someone know they could be in trouble? >> red flags themselves are signs, warning signs, that if you are trained to identify and act on, you can take some action with regard to those. it's actually the bigger issue here is really what are organizations doing to train their employees or their staff to identify them, follow up on their feelings and then take some action. i mean, i'm amazed, as i travel across the country, consulting on college campuses with fortune 500 companies, how the attitude is it will never happen here. this will never happen to us. and, in fact, there is training and education that needs to go on to help people understand what a potential threat is and to follow up on that. >> bu

. >> bob: amazing how jarrett brown totally under the radar because of pat white, he's every bit as elusive as a runner as pat white. you just never really had a chance to see it on a consistent basis. >> mark: waited four long years. terrell zachery for them. he stepped out of bounds at the 81 yard line. >> referee: number 43, ten-yard penalty, first down. >> mark: back to davie jones locker. >> bob: when a guy is first named head coach there is a bit of a honeymoon period where everything is positive. that wasn't the case with gene chizik. high percentage of the auburn fans negative because of his 5-19 record at iowa state coming in. but i think people overreacted to that record keep. keep in mind, pete carroll was the sixth pete. usc fans were in an uprage over him getting the job. >> mark: things worked out well. >> bob: pete carroll may be the best and bill belichick fired in new england. what's important to keep in mindy it's not how you start, mark. it's how you finish. bottom line, he's 2-0. forget about 5-19 at iowa state. >> mark: chris todd on the run, completes the pass to fange

. >>> pat brown is a criminal profiler.d previously with violent crime, property crimes 12 times back in the '90s. how do they miss something like this? >> this is an ongoing problem with serial homicide investigation. it's 21 years too late. great cold case work but 21 years too late because it's been 21 years of no public safety and a lot of dead women. the police need to get on it quickly and go public quickly. they do not want to admit a serial killer is on the loose in their town. people probably had no clue this was going on. whenever a dead woman in the bushes naked and strangled even if she is a prostitute you have to say there is likely a serial killer and stop looking at their boyfriends and bad drug deals. >> the most recent victim they think was in 2007. they say eight of his alleged victims were prostitute and one a 16-year-old run-away. does that make a difference when they investigate crimes make it less likely to connect the dots? >> most people think it has to do with prostitutes. it's easier when you have

right now that is the difference between jarrett brown and pat white. >> mark: tate hit immediately andit back to make a yard on the play. second down and 9. clock running with 7:45 to go in the game. rematch of last year's game in which the tables were turned. west virginia trailed by a couple of touchdowns, 17-3 and rallied to win up in morningen. town. burns in the ball game in motion. tate. >> bob: two key plays by defensive linemen. with the strip. you look at jake rich here with the interception, two dead turnovers by a defensive linemen led to two scores by auburn. but the four turnovers is the story of this football game. >> mark: he said, we need a couple takeaways and they ha've gotten some. todd with a great ball fake of his own. completes the pass. that's going to be a first down, eric smith on the catch. and they keep the chains moving on the gain of 7 yards. >> bob: the little foot action, eric smith sneaking out of the backfield. >> mark: both teams with three time-outs remaining. >> bob: here's where it is. one of the reasons he got the job he focused on auburn football,

pat buchanan is an msnbc analyst and willy brown, the former mayor of san francisco. t, you'll within the affirmative hear. you think he is getting overexposed. >> i think they're using the president as both head of state and head of government. he has this permanent campaign that they're conducting tends to diminish him to the status of politician. when he is far higher than. that secondly, i haven't seen anybody go for this roadblock since lewinsky's lawyer. phil ginsburg. the third thing is he will be asked what do you think of jimmy carter? are you going to send troops to afghanistan? how can you talk to iran when ahmadinejad denies the holocaust. he gets all these questions which are very interesting. so what is the headline on monday? something like, obama rebalks carter or disagrees with carter. says racism not behind it. i don't know how that benefits him. i think you need to go on one shot, well prepared, tell the guys, i have to be able to talk about health care and you can ask me so much on these other issues. i think that would have been the rate way to go.

two, what kind pat brown may have? i want to put that on the record. i think he will find that most people believe that it is an elite force. when we referred to kirk as we refer to any recourse. i don't believe all your folks are an elite force but we will find out. evidently, an employee of yours set to terry pearson what goes around comes around. and i would just say to mr. pierce and that that is true, but it didn't apply in exactly the same way. i want to know what happened on june 11th? was he fired are allowed to resign. >> jimmy lennon was removed from the contract. he has returned to the united states court >> was the ira are allowed to resign? >> he had resigned. >> let me ask you. are any other individuals -- >> and said he had resigned. it is he employed by armor group r. wackenhut? >> court he is still employed because he was 8 a wia a -- >> wounded in action. he has to retain employment until we go through a defense based act workers' compensation issues and wants those met all issues are taken care of that he is back. he has been removed

. >> bob: amazing how jarrett brown totally under the radar because of pat white, he's every bit as elusive as a runner as pat white. you just never really had a chance to see it on a consistent basis. >> mark: waited four long years. terrell zachery for them. he stepped out of bounds at the 81 yard line. >> referee: number 43, ten-yard penalty, first down. >> mark: back to davie jones locker. >> bob: when a guy is first named head coach there is a bit of a honeymoon period where everything is positive. that wasn't the case with gene chizik. high percentage of the auburn fans negative because of his 5-19 record at iowa state coming in. but i think people overreacted to that record keep. keep in mind, pete carroll was the sixth pete. usc fans were in an uprage over him getting the job. >> mark: things worked out well. >> bob: pete carroll may be the best and bill belichick fired in new england. what's important to keep in mindy it's not how you start, mark. it's how you finish. bottom line, he's 2-0. forget about 5-19 at iowa state. >> mark: chris todd on the run, completes the pass to fange

ronnie brown, former tiger running back and pat white former quarterback for the mountaineers. >> bob: west virginia used the time-out. we need to talk about chris todd, the quarterback from auburn. you know, last year, not healthy. played, shoulder surgery in december. had no velocity on the football. the fans booed him. the football team was divided. no spring practice. came in and won the job. you talk about a background. goes to high school in kentucky. his dad is a coach. goes to texas tech for two years. leaves texas tech, goes to hutchinson junior college in kansas and comes in here really because of tony franklin last year's coordinator who he had a relationship with because he was a consultant for his high school when they put the offense in. it's been a long journey but he's thrown four touchdown passes. >> mark: 16 of 30 overall for 284 yards. >> bob: big third down, mark. >> mark: able to rocket all the way to the top of the depth chart. third and seven. they're coming after him. got it off and incomplete. boy, they were in hot pursuit. goulbourne was a hair away from brin

ronnie brown, former auburn tiger plays for the dolphins and pat white got in a bunch of snaps last weekhins as their backup quarterback in their wildcat formation. let's see what jarrett brown can do. looked discon sered after the last sum of sequences after that interception. >> bob: west virginia connells out in the standard i-formation. it's the change-up because you never see it. >> mark: devine got off to a quick start in the first quarter brought down by thorpe and stevens. picked up six on the play. devine last week ran for 80 yards in their victory against carolina. remember a year ago against auburn had a career high 207. second and four. jarrett brown picks up a second down and then some out to the 45 yard line. under a minute to go but mountaineers out of time-outs. >> bob: take a look at bill stewart. really a lifetime assistant and really kind of a low-profile assistant at that. re, took over for rich rodriguez after he was the interim head coach and the great fiesta bowl win over oklahoma. >> mark: brown almost intercepted again by neiko thorpe who had one moments ago. >>

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brown. he scored four touchdowns. now they have a true quarterback to run the wildcat. they drafted patu'll see him tonight. it changed things for chad pennington. i wonder what does he think when they called the wildcats. >> first i wonder whether i'm in or out. then i need to get in and call the play or get out and get out of the way. it's something that we do. i think your team has become synonymous with the term wildcat and wildcat offense. it's one part of our offense. one facet and take pride in it and try to make it work. >> to chad's point. everybody thinks of the dolphins and wildcat. it's really a small percentage of what they do. we all know chad is such a great leader. it's been an adjustment for him to step to the sideline. he's told pat white i'll be your biggest fan from the sideline if you're throwing touchdown passes, chris. >> that would be chad pennington, suzy. we'll get back you to later. we mentioned it, birthday party for the wildcats. you think they would put out cake and you see festivities. you don't have to be crockett and tubbs as you go to miami to figure ou

brown cashing in between the tackles. >> just like we saw so many time was pat white and steve slaton. >> 3-9 last year, chance to start last year p. tate forcier, roughed up. rodriguez for a few minutes will walk off the field. it's official at the big house. michigan starting the season. 3-0. >> 3-0 after three wins all last season. unbelievable the job he's done after the huge win last week over notre dame. for them to come out like they did today. robinson was able to get a few snaps. i tell you this team looks unbelievable. after all of the controversy that they went through with last season and then some of the controversy, not hullabaloo over what happened, with the off season work-outs, think this is great what this team has been able to do. >> indiana next week, a great chance to be 4-0 to start this the season with this michigan team. >> we said before. it would do one of two things, either divide or unite them. so far it looks good for the wolverines. we'll get you back out for second half action. we'll be back after this. goin' to the game this weekend, jim? well, jerry, for more on that, let's throw it ove

pat: they had a bunch. you're still allowed 11? i got 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14. >> tom: plus sergio brown was offside as he tried to run on to the field. >> referee: on the defense, five men didn't get off the field. five yards, previous spot. repeat first down. >> pat: the counter only goes up to 14. if there were 15, i couldn't have done that. >> tom: cousins with a heads-up play. they get their heralded linebacker, te'o on the field here. first down and five. short drop and a toss to cunningham. >> pat: that's nice when you have the linebacker chasing the wide receiver. >> tom: the spartans come right back after the notre dame field goal, marching down with two and a half and counting. >> pat: wouldn't you say michigan state weathered the early storm. looked like notre dame would score a touchdown every time they touched the ball. the spartans have responded. >> tom: handoff, tough yards, a couple yards for larry caper. coming up, the halftime report. jimmy roberts. bob costas with al and cris, preparing for the first ever regular season game in the cowboys stadium. it will be the giants and cowboys on sunday

pat. how are you doing? >> so far so good. >> we are busy working on news4 at 4:00 this afternoon. coming up, dan brown's book is on the shelves in stores. we are will look at the places around town that are mentioned. and then at 5:00, the delicious juicy fruits of summer may be drying up because summer is gone. but you can save the seasonal treats. however it's not easy to save them on your own. you will get a step by step guide, and that's at 5:00. wendy rieger will have that story. i will give you a hint. peaches. >> it's quite a process. >> canning is a lot of work. >> have you done it for this year? >> they are still in the refrigerator. >> you can? >> you don't can, and i can't believe you put her on the spot. >> he can, tom. >> no, i just pick the apples. as we look at the forecast today, feeling like summertime, and it's going to be cool and damp beginning tomorrow and all the way into friday. a chance of a light shower each day, and cooler temperatures. although much of the weekend should be dry except showers late sunday and monday. >> they may look like normal vacation photos, but they are an

brown's new book. we'll check out some of the sites in the story. >> craigslist finds itself in the middle of another police case. >>> welcome back, everybody. at 4:30. i'm jim handly. >> i'm patawson muse. the autopsy report for yale student annie le will not be out as expected. a suspect has been identified as a lab technician who worked in the building where le's body was discovered on sunday. no arrests though. >> police in baltimore are investigating after a suspected burglar was killed by a johns hopkins student armed with a samurai sword. it happened in an offcampus home just 1:00 this morning. police tell us the student's home was being burglarized and the alleged burglar was killed during the confrontation with that armed student. >>> a short te ago house democrats introduced a resolution admonishing the behavior of sshg congressman joe wilson. wilson shouted, "you lie" during president obama's speech to congress last week. democrats say wilson's behavior is appropriate. republicans say wilson is a good man and thedomes are just playing politics. >>> he was a dancer, a leading man and an action hero. today hollywood is remembering the life of actor patrick swayze. >>

browning. >> or first do the water, then pat it. seems strange to me, but i'm not a chef. >> either way.>> want some pepper? >> that be great. >> and because i didn't touch it with mhands, i don't have to wash it. >> yeah, be careful, if you do touch raw turkey, wash your hands. >> yes, absolutely. >> okay what are we doing now? >> so, to avoid touching it, we are just going to dust it with a little flour. now, you know why we do this? >> that is so that it browns evenly. i have no idea. >> it thickens it. >> okay. >> basically, that's what the flour does, thick yaenz the sauce little bit. not a lot, but a little bit. >> i catch you on one thing and you have to quiz me. >> i just have to get you back. i just have to. >> no problem. >> anyway, we put them in here and brown them for about 45 minutes on each side, get a nice, golden color. moving down over here, this is what it ends up looking like, creates a nice crust. >> if i see veal osobuko, it's got the heavy, is it called gremalata? >> yes. >> on top. is it easy to make? >> yes, but we'll get to that in a minute. a little flavoring f