and pat brown, of course, born in san francisco as was jerry brown.erry brown's grandmother moved here from the ranch to get to the big city, i guess. and pat brown was elected governor in 1958. what kind of a politician was he? >> pat was the perfect politician for that era of this criminal expansi credible expansion. how califora was formed, how it joined the union. it's anra imm story about german immigrants and irish immigrants and that oppounity to make yourself in california as the land of opportunity. pat was just beloved, a gregarious person. >> kind of a backslapper. >> really b cieved if held just talk to everybody in the state one-on-one, he would win every single vote. how do you think california shaped him? >> you'd be hard to find someone who is as passionate about the was.e as pat brown he just believed that it was the only place on earth he would want to live. he was, a you kno backpacker into his advanced age, grew up going to yosemite every summer, really instilled in his whole family a love of that outdoors and the environment and t

first pat brown and then his sor brown reshaped and reinvented california. new book examines the role the brown family played in the state's history. the browns of california, the family dynasty that transformed a state and shaped a nation is written by miriam powell. she spoke with scott shafe >> welcome to "kqed newsroom." >> thank you. thanks for having me. >> so this book part history. it's part biography. why did you decide t tell the story of california through the brown family? >> because i thought that the four generations of browns just so mirror the -- the arc of that family mirrors the history of the state of cifornia, that it was a great vehicle for saying some really fundamental things about the history of this place. andrn in the family was so important and influential in shaping it. i mean between pat and jerry ro n, they have governed the state for more than half of its modern history. >> yeah. and pat brown, of course, born in san francisco as was jerry brown. jerry brown's grandmother moved here from the ranch to get to the big city, i gues

. >> it was created by the ceo pat brown who never set out to create a brand. >> i had no interest in going into business. zero would be overstating it. i was, honestly, not interested in food. i was one of the least qualified people in the world to do this. >> he was a stanford medical school professor, while on sabbatical started mulling over the world's big problems. >> the use of animals as food production is, by far, the most destructive on earth. i relatively quickly realized you are not going to solve a problem by trying to get people to change what they eat. it's not going to work. the only option was to figure out a more sustainable way to produce the foods that people are going to continue to demand. >> in 2011, he traded his classroom for a laboratory, where he got together a top secret team of scientists to work on finding the answer to one big question. just what is it that makes meat so tasty? they started with ground beef. >> very first time we tested the prototype, it was characterized by our tasters as tasting like polenta. >> he held on to one thought. >> we can get

pat was the g.m. from 2001 to 2004. and mayor willie brown appointed her in a second term as mayor to head up this utility. commissioner anne cane was a commissioner at that time. and michael carlin. where is michael? [laughter] and he was actually part of the executive leadership team and then i joined in 2003. and, in fact, pat brought me over. pat really showed leadership. we were at a time when our water system was failing and in -- in november, 2002, the san francisco voters really placed their trust in the p.u.c. by passing and placing trust in the water and wastewater system. and she spent hours talking about the need of our infrastructure and really showed some leadership and people really felt and really trusted her when she was out there speaking on behalf of the p.u.c. and so prop a and e passed. and that started the water system improvement program. one thing that i want to do is take pat around to look at the projects. if it wasn't for you, we wouldn't be able to do the $4.8 billion of infrastructure and we're also planning anoth

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what if they have people from middle of the road states, pat toomey, people running against bob casey, running against, what's his -- sherrod brownl kinds of moderate people. do they want to defend this thing? >> of course not. >> kavanaugh. >> of course they don't, but in order to win, they have to sort of model trump. >> they want the trump candy. >> that's the only way you can win now. it's more hardline than a year or two ago. >> do you think trump is really behind kavanaugh? really behind him until the last dog dies? >> i think trump is behind him as long as it serves trump's interests. that is what i will say. >> stick his neck out for nobody. >> if i was donald trump and if i was republicans, you know what i would want? i wouldn't want brett kavanaugh alive and tarred and fed jather. that charge is -- >> no, it's not. >> that charge is up for republican debate and they're going to put another more conservative person on behind him. >> you made your point, joe. who knows what will happen after next week after we see dr. ford testify. >> testimony, yeah. >> but trump does a really good weepy story about kavanaugh. poor justi