we'll have pat buchanan chime in on that. i'm looking forward to the chat of that for some time now. i'm mika brzezinski. joe is off. willie is here, fresh off his new show. >> got one in the bag. >> how did it go? >> good. we'll do another one tomorrow. not official, but -- >> you better wait until phil talks too, kind of a day by day thing. >> been picked up for the whole season. >> he has. >> gosh. that didn't happen to me. you're lucky. all right, we got new information on the gates 911 call, that big controversy out of cambridge. did the caller identify him and his driver as two black men or not? bigger issue pertaining to that, a beer at the white house with the president. we'll talk about that. also the health care bill showing vital signs while its opponents say it is nothing personal. we'll talk about that as well. good op-eds on all of these issues. here from washington, we have an editorial writer for "the washington post," jonathan capehart, also an msnbc contributor. you wrote a good piece over the weekend for "t

no affirmative action there, boy. >> senator, you and pat buchanan seem to represent opposite ends ofpublican thinking about what they saw in sonia sotomayor. where do you think the most republican voters are leaning? are they leaning in your direction or pat's direction? >> i can't believe that there are very many people who would say that she is not qualified to be on the u.s. supreme court. i can't believe that there are very many people who would say that she doesn't have the mental ability or that she doesn't have the background to be on the court. now, people could say, well, i don't agree with her jurisprudence as i understand it. maybe she's got the wrong view of the relationship between the court and the rest of the country. people could argue that one way or another, but i think that it would be almost -- really a silly argument to try to take the point of view that this person is not qualified to be on the court. sure she is. >> thank you, senator danforth. joining me now is cliff sloan, who guided justice stephen breyer through the nomination process. cliff sloan is the au

mark whittaker, joined by pat buchanan, richard wolf. mark, to you. when he says first your costs will go down with this plan there is no "plan," there are multitude of plans. is that an accurate statement? will costs come down in the near term for people who are laid off and have to buy their own health insurance? >> i think essaying if you are excluded from the system or you lose your company health benefits it may be cheaper to replace them under this plan. essentially, one of the problems in selling this to the american people is the administration is making the argument that in order to save money over the long run in health care for individuals for companies and for the broader economy, we are going to have to spend at least $1 trillion over the next ten years and i think for a lot of people who are very concerned about the amount of money that we have already spent to on the stimulus, on the banking rescue, on the auto companies and so forth this is a big concern. so, that is what he is going to have to do now in next month, come up with a way

bob shrum, pat buchanan. as always. s in the next 24 hours? chris alyssa joins us. chris? >> i hate to interrupt a spat between pat and bob. that's great tv. >> join in. >> exactly. i do think the vote today, the judiciary committee, only one republican, lindsey graham who we knew was going to vote for sonia sotomayor. two people, or rin hatch from utah and chuck grassley, both republicans, who had never cast a vote against the supreme court voting against her. this shows the climate hasn't changed as much as some people would have hoped. i'm interested to see how this hands out, not first with sonia sotomayor, but more broadly about the health care debate. are there going to be republicans playing a critical role who will be willing to cross the political aisle and be willing to meet the president halfway or more than halfway. >> thanks chris. that does it for me this hour. i'm andrea mitchell. live in new york. >>> on the show tomorrow, congressman mike pence. a i knowm out. they were old so... old! they are rollover m

when asked about pat's affirmative action claim specifically, a spokesperson told us, "that is a statement of opinion by mr. buchanan." here is the statement from my discussion with pat that does require the most emphatic correction. >> white men were 100% of the people that wrote the constitution, 100% of the people that signed the declaration of independence, 100% of the people who died at gettysburg and vixburg, probably close to 100% of the people who died at normandy. this is a country built basically by white folks. >> pat joined us for this discussion from a studio in washington, d.c., that is not far from the white house, which was of course built by slaves. who were not white folks. the u.s. capitol the physical building was built by slaves. the city of washington, d.c., where pat spent his entire life was physically built in part by slave labor. it's not even possible to imagine how america could have competed in a place in the global economy in the 1800s without plantation tobacco, cotton and rice and the industries so thoroughly dependent on slave labor. >> this has been a country built basically by whit

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pat buchanan, senator, has a question. pat?nator, it to go to tis ise of the firefigers in new have do you believe tht times it is permissible to discriminate against white males in order to aceve the social goa of grear gender and racial diversy? >> yes, under certain circumstances and the courts are quite clear about hat. if u have a systemic discriminato history where you can ow, say, a police department has systatically deed minorities aht to participate as we had the south, then you can create remedies that will -- in favor of others coming on and being selectedn those departments buat some point the supreme court has de cle that that shouldtop. they've said, in fact, it's so dangers to do this, so dangerous to favor one group over another bad on their ra th can only be done if the judge can fnd or supervise that with t strictest scrutiny. so i think that' the standard that got losthere, strict scrutiny was not evalued and the sreme court revsed or desion. >> all right. carlosatson joins conversation as well carlostake it

pat buchanan, thank you for joining us. let's look rikt now at a bit of frank ricci's testimony. >> i studied harder than i ever had before, reading, making flash cards, reading again, all by listening to prepared tapes. i was an absentee husband and father because of it. the city of new haven felt not enough minorities would have been promoted and the city's civil service rules and the charter would be too high. therefore, they chose not to fill the vacanvacancy czys. >> they through out the test. they threw out the guys who did well on the test. and they basically buckled to whatever. let's go with your view on this. what is the impact of mr. ricci's testimony and also the testimony of the hispanic firefighter mr. vargas who also lost out in this decision by the city of new haven? >> frank ricci is what the american dream is all b he succeeded through hard work and tremendous effort to overcome obstacles others didn't have to achieve his dream. and he was denied it in part because sotomayor, herself a beneficiary of affir

she could end up being another pat buchanan or a rush limbaugh of the party. i think she could take that role. make money and be someone who could be a critic both outside and inside or she could run for office, but i do think -- >> pat gave up the money to run. let's get that straight. pat gave up money to run. i'm not going to hold that against him. he was -- >> i think she's going to have to be a little more disciplined. as a woman i have to tell you, it disappoints me to hear her kind of play the victim card. as a political strategist i understand the strategy. as a woman i'd like to hear her back off from that and as pat was saying let's talk about the issues. >> here she is going after hollywood and defending guns. here she is. >> you're going to see anti-hunting, anti-second amendment circuses from hollywood, and here is how they do it. they use these delicate, tiny, very talented celebrity starlets. they use alaska as a fund-raising tool for their anti-second amendment causes. stand strong and remind them patriots will protect our individual guaranteed

>> yeah, he should follow the advice of pat buchanan all the way.r been right on anything else before in his life, so when it happens, it has to be noted for history. >> lightning has struck. >> you are just mean-spirited this morning. >> and coming up, we have the will week in review. and then senator orrin hatch. the first no in the supreme court nominee, 30 years in the senate. i don't understand why. i will ask him. democratic infighting. we will talk about the problems within the party. you are watching "morning joe." hi, elijah. nothing beats walmart's unbeatable prices... but now they have new areas where i can find the brands i use every day-- and save even more. so that's what they mean by unbeatable. save money. live better. walmart. five co-workers are working from the road using a mifi, a mobile hotspot that provides up to five shared wifi connections. two are downloading the final final revised final presentation. - one just got an e-mail. - what?! - huh? - it's being revised again. the co-pilot is on mapquest. - ( rock music playing )

joining us now is my msnbc political colleague pat buchanan. been far too long since you've been on the show. it's nice to see you. >> good to see you, rachel. >> so your argument is that republicans could reap political reward by making the argument that sotomayor essentially doesn't deserve to be on the supreme court, that she's only there because of her race. did i understand your argument correctly? >> well, i think i would vote no on sonia sotomayor the same wyoming have voted no on harriet myers and i said so the first day she was nominated. i don't think sonia sotomayor is qualified. everwritten i've read in terms of a law article or major book or something like that on the law, and i do believe she's an affirmative action appointment by the president of the united states. he eliminated everyone but four women and then picked the hispanic. i would vote no. >> what do you think that affirmative action is for? >> affirmative action is to increase diversity by discriminating against white males. as alan bakke was discriminated at the univers

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if pat buchanan was theost of "american idol." that woulde worth $45 million. speakingf pat, msnbc contributor pat buchanan is a frnd and colleague of all of ours at e network. he's also a strong supporter of sarah palin. he's extrely unhappyith the recent criticism of govnor palin levi joston. that includes johnston's appearan this morning on the "tay "" show. buchanan has some harsh advice r how the palin family should deal with johnston. >> i think firs dude up there in alska, todd palin,ught to take levdown to thereek and hold his hea underwater until the thrashingstops. >> he has got a great way wh words. i mean, you know, tamron, we all know where he's going. but the way p says it is, you kno there's nobody quit like him. >> uil he stops thrashing. od ngs. that at's cistian values for you. the webse funny or die h a spoof on the reality starson ankate. hehas a new girlfriend. they're done. they got fake match.com ad for kate who is stl single. >> i wnt to meet someone who likes backwards mullets. that's party in thefront, soccer rom in the back. ocolate wo

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meanwhile, msnbc's own pat buchanan known in these parts as uncle pat is now urging the republicans on in one of the most over the top racial politics commentaries i have seen in years arguing in his regular column at human events.com that republicans should be using the sonia sotomayor hearings even more overtly to exploit racial animus amongst minorities among white voters. pat writes, quote, these are the folks who paid the price of affirmative action when their sons and daughters are pushed aside to make room for the sonia sotomayors. what republicans must do is expose sotomayor as a political activist whose career bespeaks a life long resolve to discriminate against white males. sonia is first and foremost, pat writes, a latina. sonia is --. somehow i doubt that uncle pat and judge sotomayor are on a first name basis but who knows? the stoking of white people's racial animus, not to stop this nomination but to get votes in the future, does seem to be the big elephant in the room, republican strategy in these hearings anyway. we may have mr. buchanan's column to thank for making th

here on the east coast and midwest and an then there's the angry. >> her first guest would be pat buchanan was surprised because you were one of the 6% that said she should be president. that was strange to me. >> all right. >> thank you very much. of course, we're just joshing. can sarah palin make it as a rel on the radio? right now rush limbaugh is the leading voice of conservatives on the airwaves. but the former alaska governor could give him new competition. does rush have reason to worry? palin wouldn't be the first politician to turn to radio. joining us is jane norris of federal news radio. she doesn't exactly have a face for radio in a strange way. does that take away what myself and a lot of people think has been a great appeal, the first woman in power with great physical and sexual appeal? does she lose that on radio. >> i don't think so. you asked whether she could be a good television talk show host. she has that option, as well. i don't think her looks have as much to do with her success as her message. >> we're going to go at it on that one. >> i'm certainly not a conserva

>> we're back with msnbc's howard nenemaand pat buchanan. th was republican congresessm pepetekikingon michael j jkskson pat, w wha do you think?k? should p perer king berying to score some polititalal points michael l ckcksoat this point or ayay ieiet? >> no, don't think you realllly should. mimichl jackson was coroversial at the end of h his li. had some e prlele with his miioionsnd millions of p pelele young peopoplelolove him for hi musisic a andeverything. ani think -- - i ininyou stay qut at a time likethis. u u know, there's a great statement by thomasarard benton, hehe sd d an enemy who was very ill,, wnn god a almhtht puts his hand on a m man t te minene o o. i think k atimimesike this, people, ifif y d don like sosomedy, the best thing to do is be quiet. >> h howd d fineman, do you expt any other piticians to be trying to srere a pointt he or there on michael jackskson >> i don't know, but lawrenence that was th sod of the orinin reagan democrats speaking. ose are the people who fleled thth cityy of new york after th '60s and retrea

pat buchanan and tom defrank covers politics for "the new york daily news." , you and i have talked a lot about the nixon comeback from the cryogenic state he was in. he basically went out, exit snarling, he left attacking the press, and yet within a couple months he was back. he sat out the '64 year. he red shirts himself. didn't think that was his year. he came back in '66 and he said to you, first '66. >> yes. i joined up in '65 actually. what he told me, he said, listen, pat, if i had to be a lawyer the rest of my life, i'd be mentally dead in two years and physically dead in four, and he and i talked for hours and hours every day. incidentally, the '68 win was no landslide. it was humphrey. we won by 500,000 votes. it was a good electoral victory. we went out -- nixon went out and what we did was we had a five-week campaign. he got a plane. he had to pay for it himself or raise money for it. we hit 80 congressional districts, 35 states. nixon predicted all year long we're going to win 40 house seats and people were laughing at him and mocking him. at one

for more on the life and legacy of walter cronkite i'm joined now by msnbc political analyst pat buchananand democratic strategist peter fenn. let me start with you, pat, and give me your thoughts about the impact on not just journalism, but on america, that resulted from walter cronkite being at cbs news for 19 years. >> well, walter cronkite was the individual who really told us what has happened. i watched on cbs after kennedy was shot, it was a pause of about a half hour, we were watching cbs when he came on, and announced the death there. he was the one we watched when those men walked, armstrong and the other, walked on the moon. but you know, i'll tell you, chris, i was in the nixon white house, and people forget walter cronkite was a powerful and influential figure. back in 1968, lyndon johnson said if we've lost walter cronkite, we've lost america. the nixon administration, from about '69 to '74 in direct conflict with the national media, especially tv. network news was the primary source of information for two-thirds of the american people. and we thought we were in a battle for

let's bring in bob shrum, msnbc political analyst, pat buchanan. welcome both.irst, because just now, ken strickland, our own senator producer has just notified us that a bipartisan group of senators are now asking for more time. and this is -- there's some big names here. there's so much heavy lifting ahead, lieberman, nelson, biden, collins, landrieu, and snowe, and a couple of these are members of the finance committee and the baucus group. at this stage, what does that mean? if they want more time, does that mean the august recess does not -- that deadline will not work for the white house? >> look, it may or may not. but a lot of the reporting on this, andrea, is just like your reporting on the stimulus bill. it's as if the perils of pauline was being enacted every single day. i think the president is resolute, he's pretty confident about where this is going to come out. take that cbo conclusion that came out yesterday. it was about total federal health spending. of course, total federal health spending will go up under this, but you'll save $2 trillion in

pat buchanan said it. there is no small government party left in washington, no one protecting our pocketbook. all the ways to get out of bad except the one we are doing is not just borrowing, we should call it stealing from our children. david: steve buchanan also said we are on the road to socialism. are we? >> if they had their way we would be. the irony on the terms of president obama is if congress rejects his program he will survive politically. if he gets his way he will be destroyed because he will destroy the economy. in terms of mike calling the spending investment that is straight from george orwell calling horse welfare. maybe it is good for horsing. they have 535 of them with the wrong end it congress. david: let's here what nathan has to say. >> there's a lot of investment spending, wall street, tarp, stimulus. there's a ton of infrastructure in there. you are going to find screwed up little programs for horses -- david: make your point quickly. >> eliminate the stimulus entirely it will do n

respectful, legitimate debate tonight i think the republicans were undercut by newt gingrich and pat buchanan and all these people who said right out of the box she was a w racist. the media ran with this wise't latino thing. it was in the first stories out of context. i don't think she really answered. "time" magazine, sue palin is a wonderful legal affairs writer, meet the sotomayor ours, which is me both sides how can she be speeches that her record is judicial restraint. it is true i think conservatives judicial activism is usually described as liberal i think that over plans by calling her a reverse racist. she was almost in a weird way getting a sympathy vote at this point to make in the media to do diligence tickets and i think they tried. 583 questions later we still didn't know very much about her judicial philosophy or the incendiary comment because she just walked away from it. if she says gee, i didn't really mean that and it was just a rhetorical source, when she made the point that she said it repeatedly but now she doesn't say it, where to go with it or it may have nowhere to g

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here in the studio, mark whitaker, nbc news washington bureau chief and msnbc's own pat buchanan joining me. mark, we were talking earlier about some of the big, hot-button issues that came up today and one of them is, of course, affirmative action, the whole new haven case. this is the way senator leahy questioned sonia sotomayor, a friendly questioning, of course opinion >> ironically, if you had done something other than followed the precedent, some would be now attacking you as being an activist. you followed the president. so now they attack you as being biased and racist. it's kind of a unique thing. you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. what do you react to the supreme court's decision in the new haven's firefighters case? >> the issue was not what we would do or not do, because we were following precedent and when you are on a circuit court, you are only obligated to follow precedent. the issue in ricci is what the city did or could do when it was presented with a challenge to one of its tests for promotion -- that was not quota case, this was not an affirmative action

patrick, it looks to me like spaim is looking at the pat buchanan playbook. she wants to do what you did. she's had a very short public career in elected office, but that doesn't seem to mind. peep don't seem to mind that. can she run basically as a commentator? as a person who doesn't like new york, doesn't like the media, doesn't like washington, doesn't like the government, doesn't like l.a., hollywood, can you run a completely negative rhetorical campaign basically? >> well, if you're the out party and let's say she's out there in 2010 raising money for the party at state conventions, going in for candidates who invite her in, yeah, the red meat, she rallies the faithful, she rattles the cages of the immediate yand a the liberals like no one else can do, yes, you can do that in an off-year campaign. but if you're running for president of the united states, you got to have an agenda in foreign poi si and an agenda in trade policy and an agenda in economic policy. right now if you're talking 2010, yeah, she's on the right course. you get yourself a good ral

there's a similarity here pat buchanan was a kmcommentator an someone who ran for president. >> pat buchanan never won the presidency. i assume that sarah palin would like to actually be president. it doesn't look to me that she's someone who likes to talk. although talking is fun and well paying, not saying talk sg a bad thing. but pat buchanan, to use that analogy did affect the course of american politics when he challenged the elder george bush. he made a serious run there. maybe that's a good analogy to use. >> susan, good to see you. jonath jonathan, as always good to talk to you. >> new video just moments ago, there he is, senator elect al franken. does he take a question or something here? let's listen in quickly. nothing? okay senator elect al franken in washington today. his swearing in ceremony later. he tells cnn he is eager to get to work. >>> the nation's longest serving and most vil fied defense secretary robert mcnamara died today. left the pentagon under presidents kennedy. mac nam ar ra accepted responsible for failure in vietnam admitting rehe realized that the war could n

i think she could be a very divisive figure just as pat buchanan was when he was in politics more than political commentary on television. >> amanda, it probably would have been instructive if i'd gone back six months into the second bush administration to see who might have been on the democratic list. i'm not sure where barack obama would have been on that. is there a name not on this list likely to emerge, do you think? does history tell us that there's something out there who's going to come on strongly we didn't expect? >> i do think republicans are hoping for that. i can tell you the people who i think republicans have been trying to keep an eye on hoping you might see someone like that emerge, guys like eric cantor, paul ryan, people you've wanted to see break out of the mold. but lately the talk with those two is they haven't been against the big spending proposals as they might have hoped. maybe there's hope for somebody in the house to break out. i think that's where it would come from. if it did. because as bright as the governors looked six months ago, namely talking about

. >>> exit question, is judge sotomayor a shoe-in, pat buchanan?60 democratic votes and i think she'll get more than 10, i would guess around 15 republican votesp. >> so what does that come out with? >> that's a question. >> that's the definition of a shoe-in. >> confirmation with up to half of the republicans, the sensible republicans. >> what are we talking, between 70 and 80? >> absolutely. >> i agree. the republicans have said they are not gonna try to block the vote. the democrats have the votes. >> the republicans, they're collapsing. >> no, no, they shouldn't filibuster. >> they're not. >> they're holding her powder for the next nominee that could be a lot more liberal. >> i think she's going to get over 80 votes when some are really recognized and acknowledging that she is going to be an acceptable candidate. >> republicans -- >> 82? >> i'll say over 80. >> she'll be good for republicans in this sense because i think she is really the other sotomayor and not the one we saw there. i think she's going to be passion nalt, intent, hard in favor

we're so going to be talking to pat buchanan about sah palin and her high appral ratingn the republicanuch more. firswe'll talk to a congressman, boy, hs got -- he's got attack ads already being launcd agnst him on his vote regarding the climate change bl. naing onon ud r. weotototatatininci on us cars for everybody anont cfidedence ininin o. caususususlendnds s ve a a a t tcks. ququq n . >>> undery plan of a cpping trade sysm, elected trity rates would skyrocket. >> that's rit, skyrocket. it wl destroy jobs and cost middle classamilies $800 a year every time u turn on a switch. voting with obama and nancy pelosi over an over. ll and tellim he was wrong to vote for e pelos energy tax. the national republican congressional committee is responsible for the content o this vertisement. >> okay. that was the gop ad attacking virgia's democratic representative tom perriello for his vote on the capping trad bill a local tv station is refuse to go run that ad. and here to talk about the controversy is congrsman tom perrieo. thank you for g on the how. >> congressman,o you ownthe station or do y

>> we're back wiwithsnsnbc hohowa fineman and pat buchanan. that was r replilicacongressman peter r ki o omichael jackson. pat, w whadodoou think? should peteterininbe trying to score some pololicicaloints on michael jacksoson t thipoint or stst q qui? >> no, i i d't't tnk you really shshou.. mimichl jackson was coroversial at the end of hihis life. d d so problems with his millions and millions ofof pplpl young peopopleloloveim for his mumusiand everything. anand think -- i think you stay quiet at a a te e li this. u u kn, there's a great ststement by thomas hardenen benton, heheaiaid an enemy who waveve ill, when god almighthty puts his hand on a aanan iake mine off.. i inink at times like this, people, if you d don l le somebody, the best t thi t to is be ququt.t. >>>> harard neman, do you expect any other politicians toto b trying to scorora a pot here or therere m mhael jackson? >>>> ion't know, but lawrencnc that was the soundnd othth original r rean n decrats speaeangng. those are the pepeop w w fled the e ci o of w york after the '60s

pat buchanan is still sleeping up there. we didn't bring pat with us. even though he wishes he were here because he's a huge sarah palin fan. exactly. it is beautiful. we have seen a couple of beavers make their way back and forth the river. also a couple of people out late partying into the early morning hours. it is a very invigorating 51 degrees at this hour. i think it's now just 5:00 in the morning. one interesting other thing i learned about fairbanks. it gets 40 below here in wintertime and they never cancel school and they even have recess if it goes to 20 below. very hardy folk here. >> kudos to you. this is your third shot already today. thank you very much. it's beautiful, too. see you again in an hour. >>> well, today, new pictures of a powerful tornado. florida authorities are assessing the damage of tornadoes that tore through communities near tampa friday. more than 160 homes were damaged. one person is recovering from minor injuries. a strong storm also pounded parts of north dakota and northern minnesota. golf ball-sized hall and winds

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former republican presidential candidate pat buchanan is an msnbc political analyst. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> good morning, matt. >> dee dee, let me start with you. two camps it seems. when you look at the popularity numbers for the president right now down from 68% to 57%, one camp says, it's just the afterglow of the election is over. the other camp, and i think pat falls into this camp will say, no, this is about this president, and this administration screwing up with the stimulus plan and the economy. what's the truth? >> well, the truth is that this president started his term with a tremendous amount of political capital, and he made clear from the very beginning that he was going to spend that trying to do not small things but big things. he started with the stimulus, we're now in the midst of a very complicated health care reform process, and the president is spending some of that political capital. >> yeah, but -- >> the poll numbers are down as a result of that. >> but if people look and think that the spending of it has got positive

m joined now liveby msnbc potical analyst pat buchanan andemocratic strategy morris reid. e'll turn our attentioto this subject this hour. pat, do conservatives really think they can block sotomar's nomination? is that the best-case scenar for them and i itrealistic at all? >> no, i don't think they think they can block her. democrats have 60votes. you have republicans ing to vote forjudgesotomayor. i think what republicans ought to do is not get preed along this. don't do any of the sagery thatas done claren omas. but what they oht to dos lay out judge sotomayor'srecord, especially in thisarea, if you will, of racbased justice. the firemen up the in new haven were denied for a long timepromotions,simply because they were all white, or one spanic in with tm. and i thin what the republican party ought t do islay out the caseoes judgeomayor beeve race should be taken into considetion in hiring and promotions? and racial preferce are they acceptab? you get thidown to a philosophical agreemt on an issue where publicans are ve rong. >> morris where doyou think judge sotomayoris

. >> i'm joined now live from washingt by pat buchanan and julian epsteinthe form council for the democraticouse judicial committee. pat, coun't palin have served our term and pledged to avoid the nd of lame-duck behavior tt she so despised? >> yeah, i thinkhat was more of an afterthoughan anything else and an add-on. i think th real reason ishat for her family it was becoming an ordea they were being cked. she's got these ethics charges that have cost her $500,000 and she said e and her staff are taking allheir time on that. got the burdens of fice. i think for her s and her family decided ts is a very liratingecision. they put allhat behind them. shs going to write th book. it gives her an opportunity to come down tohe lower 48 and campaign. in the 2009/2010 cle, which she cearly wants to do and she's good at. so, i think she' mde the right call. t i don't thk it wod be becae she would be fceto make tra missions abroad. >> okay. julian,hen you saw pal's speech, wh were your thoughts about the 2012 ace? your mind? of the running in >> yeah. the onlyrational explanation for what she is doing

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. >> i'm joined now livey msnb politicalanalyst pat buchanan and democratic strategistrris green. greato have you bo. >> good morning, alex. >> pat, w is the esident comingut against a sond stimulus? >> well, i think h realizes that he' in tub politicall on the issuef spending. th deficit. and economic issues like that. andfrankly, i n't think he could get a stimulus package through, and i think probably there's a real backlash to it among e public given the enormous bats of wall stree and the banks and general motors and aig and all the rest. the president's got a real problem here, alex. the stimulus package was rrly crafted. only 10% of the money is out the door in the first six months. that's not a stimulupackage. and now you've got the unemployment is continuing to ri. the president isight when he says it's a lag indicator. th problem is, the lead indicars, like the stock maet in the last month, are inting down again. hmm, yeah. morris, i'm cious, do any democratnt a secd stimulus package? is this gop strategy? >> absolutely not. there's no political will and the americaneople

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>>> we're back with pat buchanan and gene robinson. this question. what makes you think, pat, this woman is unqualified? unfiled to get into princeton, unqualified to serve on the court. you're going through the whole situation here. >> she said herself she was an affirmative action baby her whole life. that she didn't get the grades. >> her words. >> her words. >> okay. >> she also said, look. in college i had to read classic children's books in order to learn english a little better. she's been advanced her whole career. she got on the yale law review. where are her s.a.t. scores getting into high school and college? where has she written something in the law review? where is an opinion we've seen that's really brilliant? you might disagree with it. >> what about sarah palin for president? >> sarah palin is accomplished on her own right. no affirmative action there, boy. she didn't get any of that treatment. >> pat, that is just a total misreading and misunderstanding of what affirmative action is. i realize you say it as a te jor tiff. i think it's