my name is pat buscovich. i'm a licensed structural engineer, past president structural engineer association, [speaker not understood] which is writing the city's erg quake plan, former building commissioner, former state building commissioner appointed by the governor. i think i'm the guy that you want down there and the way you've written the engineered record exemption, you want engineers down there. regretfully, the way this is written and i think there can be -- it needs to be worked on, is engineer of record is a really defined tasks. today, this is my normal day, three hours, three building permits. i'm the engineer of record. i think i'm exempt. what else should i do? i did permit research for someone on the legal use of a building. that's not anything of record. i'm going to have to report that. i'm doing special inspection coordination on a project ten years old where the engineer retired. i'm not exempt. i'm looking or actually i'm working against someone illegally removing a unit for a neighborhood