criminal justice system with two of the country's most famous defense attorneys, mark geragos and pat harris. welcome, i'm barry kibrick. mark and pat are two of the premiere trial lawyers in the nation, and have been involved in some of the most famous trials of recent history. their clients have ranged from michael jackson and winona ryder to susan mcdougal and gary condit. now with their book "mistrial," they give us an insider's view of our justice system, to see how it works and why sometimes it doesn't. linda ellerbee: i'm a writer today because i was a reader when i was 11 years old, and it was... deepak chopra: you do not need to prove your state of happiness to anybody. warren christopher: most of these speeches were as much as a month in preparation. stephen j. cannell: the characters, the heroes of this book are seekers of truth in a story that involves a lot of corruption. man: i get a chance to really talk about what's real, and this is the purpose for me. barry: mark, pat, welcome to "between the lines." it's a pleasure to have you on the show. mark geragos: we're happy to be h

pat lopes harris/portavoz sjsu 14:43:04 the initial call came from a student, we believe that it wasdible tip that's why we called just sweeny hall this morning. la portavoz dijo que un estudiante llam a la polica de la universidad y report haber visto a un sujeto armado y catalogaron la informacin como creible. el sujeto fue descrito como blanco, vestido todo de negro.. despus de 2 horas de bsqueda cuarto por cuarto, no encontraron nada.. esta estudiante tiene todas sus clases en ese edificio y perdi un examen esta maÑana. s.o.t. adanari distancia/estudiante de sjsu 10:04:06 yo la verdad no estoy segura, y mejor que nos protejan a que pase igual que las otras escuelas. s.o.t. victor muñiz/estudiante de sjsu 12:07:15 yo creo que sí hay la posibilidad de alguien con una pistola, yo creo que no se puede exager eso porque corre riesgo la seguridad de muchas personas. s.o.t. pat lopes harris/portavoz sjsu 15:58:24 we have spent a good part of the last i think 10 years now since the virginia tech shooting training our faculty and staff.. la portavoz agreg que desde la masacre en virginia

anyone with three names, yes, i am talking to you, neil pats trick harris -- neil pat -- patrick harrisph now. >>> fresh off a new assault charge chris brown is headed to rehab. he spent the night in jail after being arrested in dc. the artist behind "auto tune crap" is eke checking into a rehappen facility to deal with anger management issues. his rep released a statement saying blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, healthier vantage point. an insider tells e! news he keeps self-medicating with weed and alcohol and it gets him in trouble. joanne, as somebody who self-medicates with weed and alcohol do you feel sympathy for chris brown? >> the struggle is real. this is a move by his publicist or manager definitely. >> how dare you? >> for anyone who is struggling and has substance abuse issues and you are seeking help, i am proud of you. that's wonderful. things are not looking up for him. >> my thing is, is there such thing as anger management? >> i don't know. i just don't know! use your words. we did a show on anger management. quarterback there is such a thing as that. is everyt

pat? >>> prince harry arrived in australia today. he's in sydney to celebrate the 100 year anniversary of the royal australian navy. tomorrow, he'll inspect a fleet of ships. the prince and his brother have been keeping a low profile since the birth of william's son, george. he will host a soccer match on monday. >>> pope francis visited the italian town. he spent part of the day meeting with mentally and physically challenged children. we have more on that and the pope's message for the cath lynn church. >> reporter: this is his first visit here and he's trying to refocus the catholic church on the poor and those society often forgets. one of the highlights of this pilgrimage has been a visit by the pope to a sender for mentally and physically challenged children and adults. i was struck watching him go through and greet each one of these children or young people and take time with them. he blessed them, he kissed them and, in fact, one young man reached out and grabbed the pope's cross. today, the pope is literally walking in the f

benefits that ordinary people don't get, and there's real outrage, as pat and john were suggesting, across the board, because bottom line, harrisountry is not working. >> pat, your thoughts? >> look, and it gets worse than that. you know, you're right. this is a privileged class. that's what the american people see. and you know, 85% of the government was funded, by the way. what it was, people who had got not the most for the workers, who some of them double dipped, as you pointed out, harris, which is a real problem. you know, this was a political act by political players trying to get political points and the country is going, my god, this thing does -- we've got problems that don't work, an economy that's not working, and no one is speaking to us. they're all feathering their own nest, and that's basically what's happened here. >> let's take a look, excuse me, john, and i'll get your thought in just a second, but i want to take a look at this real clear politics poll. because it really speaks to the issue of where people are. are we going in the right direction? you know, it's hard to get 75% of people to agree on anything,

the page but that sure didn't stop a round of self-congratulatory back patting earlier today now here's senate majority leader harry reid check it out. and political adversaries sort of side their differences and disagreements to prevent that disastrous. i think republican later this legislation also funds the government through january fifteenth and averts default through february seventh. great super awesome no default february seventh and that's just the senate bill the house hasn't even touched it yet now with the u.s. fiscal situation now secure until early two thousand and fourteen if all goes according to plan and then come black friday this will all be put a distant memory to the turkey stuffed shoppers that's right about the time that congress performs its next choreograph encore in january that's when the latest g.d.p. figures will show a resilient economy and consumer so merry christmas us economy. however mr market has a long memory and the fallout from this kick can of worms will inevitably linger joining me to discuss bob inglis hello there how are you doing today very well now turkey dinner right alr

harry reid's answer was obviously way over the top and inappropriate. i think he's apologized, if memory serves, but it's inappropriate, but there's a larger point and it goes to what pat was saying. it deserves underscoring, bottom line, this whole thing is ridiculous, tragic. it shows us to be really in a lot of ways pitiful that we're not able to be the kind of nation we are and always have been, which is compassionate, kind, and reach out to those who need help. >> and the speaker called it an epic battle. what is epic? what is it we're fighting over? that's what i can't figure out? are we fighting over a law that is already in effect, by the way, and the obama rollout happened the day that this government was shut down, and it has been an utter fiasco for the first four days but it's not getting top billing because everybody is focused on this. >> you know, pat, the fiasco has been delaying versus, you know, defund. and take a look at this fox news poll here. a great many americans are in favor of delaying, but they are not in favor of defunding here. is that the republican -- can you put that up there? fox news health care delay versus defund. is that the republi

credit act from senator pat toomey which would've by law on paper protected all treasury interest and principle and guess who opposed it? obama, guess who second to oppose it? harry reid? all this nonsense could have been put to rest if they'd taken pat toomey's bill and they wouldn't do it, bob. that's why i think they're insincere and trying to cause trouble. >> you're right. there's a false sense of hysteria out there and a lot of it has to do on the president's side. let's remember one thing here, larry and robert. the president needs to show leadership. he is the head of our executive branch. and one should make the argument he should be negotiating in full faith behind closed doors. 17 years ago when it was bill clinton on the stage, bill clinton had partisan jabs from a public standpoint, but behind the scenes he was negotiating, showing leadership, and behind the scenes he was literally conceding different points. we don't see that with this white house. >> i was saying, i couldn't disagree more respectfully, robert. if democrats refuse to raise the debt ceiling for unrelated issues saying they want on-demand abortion across the country, they'd be laughed

senate majority leader harry reid accused an attack on bipartisanship. >> a bill that can't pat the senate. can't pass the senate and won't pass the senate. >> house democratic leader nancy pelosi echoed the criticism and from the other side of the avenue, jay carney joined in. >> whit comes to rallying tea party members that is not acceptable. >> it was all too much for john mccain of arizona. he faulted democrats today. >> to categorically reject what the house of representatives and the speaker is doing, and i think he's pretty courageous in what he's doing in my view is not serving the american people. so let's stop this. let's stop it, sit down, consider the speaker's proposal, get our proposal done. and then, get this resolved, which we can do in the next 24 hours. >> before the house republican plan emerged, senate leaders from both parties said they were making progress on their plan. aids say they hoped to seal an agreement before the day was out. but things seemed to grind to a halt. dick durbin announced the negotiations in the senate were suspended pending something more accept

harry reid. >> and some nasty rain rolling in. and folks, it's going to be around for days. here we go. hello, everybody. i'm jim handly. >> i'm pat lawson muse. first to the storm team for coverage of the rain to come. bringing a lot of rain and flooding to the area. >> doug kammerer is tracking every inch of it. apparently mother nature heard our calls and now we're talking one to two inches. storm team 4 is showing you where the rain is. that rain coming in fairly quickly now and starting to overspread the entire area. over through the i-95 corridor down to the south. that's where it's the heaviest. now as we move wider you can see the coast just off the coast. we could see this for up wards of a week. and we're going to talk about not just rain, but the potential is there for wind, and talk about cool numbers. 57 at gaithersburg. 50 in washington. 57 in fredricksburg. we'll talk about the winds and how much you can expect in your area as far as rainfall is concerned. and just when the system will pull out. >>> lawmakers come to an agreement on day nine of the government shutdown. the house unanimously passing a bill to make su

harry reid and barack obama. >> you know, one -- quick thought, i was thinking this so you can dismiss it. i would if i were you. you know, the longer it goes on, pat, and we learn that we can survive without, i guess, two-thirds of the federal government workers, a lot of folks are going to start saying see questions zprags so-called devastating cuts that were not so devastating. what's the deal here? isn't that what democrats may be afraid of? that the longer this droogs and life goes on, some serious -- notwithstanding all the way, not dismissing them all, what's the -- some democrats fear, that it is going to be revealed that this government is too big. >> it is not only that. the republicans now -- look, the republicans are being accused of shutting down the government. you can see every day what they passed yesterday, keep all of the monuments and memorials open in d.c. and pass a budget for d.c., the interior department, yosemite and other national parks can stay open. if they can do it one by one, conning resolution for every one of the areas, i heard about nih today. there are problems and problem at fda. pass a continuing resolution for t

pat terson, new jersey. that's where he is from. >> is he serious? what was the answer to that? guess what, there was not one. >> harrye floor. listen, i don't want to step on the one good democratic moment of the month, so i'll be quiet and go to richard. >> richard. >> hello. >> you just launched a website. >> i did. yes. if you want to understand the background go to msnbc right now. on that site is a great story by jeff kelly, veteran health care reporter used to work for this flate man right here kwofricove care for years. >> i loved that debate. >> it was a real debate. >> yes, it was, so, having launched a website recently. >> yeah. >> it's not fun, is it? >> not fun. look, you can't really compare these two enterprises, why not? it's "morning joe," so let's do that. >> oh my god. why? >> is that insulting? >> i think he was. >> no. do we make comparisons is that what he says? he says we're like clobbering a baby seal. >> like killing baby seals, exactly. >> you got to let me finish my point. i yield back. look, what we did was huge and ambitious and everything but nothing compares to this boast that they've tr

mike and pat in queen anne's county writes, my daughter's health care premium just rose $648 a year, thanks to the affordable care act. don't you or other republicans give up the fight. mr. harris: cindy writes, i just discovered i can't keep the medical insurance i've had for many years as it no longer exists, thanks to obamacare. even though i'm 58 years old i must pay for maternity benefits and pediatric dentistry when i have no child under 19. i get a premium encrease of $143 a month. what a mess that needs to be fixed and in a hurry. finally, lorraine writes that she called our office in tears, she was told by her insurer that her preem use was increased $256 a month. lt her total payment that she and her husband will pay is $956 a month. and her insurer told her it went up because of obamacare. mr. speaker, the president's health care plan is broken. i yield back the time. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from arizona seek recognition? >> i ask unanimous consent to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. >> mr. speaker, i stand before you on this, the 16th day of the shutdown with j

harry reid and mitch mcconnell. who are back to working on a last-minute deal. >> john boehner will likely be in a position where he will have to, essentially pat the bill that issenators mcconnell and reed. i think the house would first pass it and send it to the senate. >> reporter: president obama called for quick action. >> we don't have a lot of time. what i'm suggesting to the congressional leaders is let's not do any posturing or save face. >> reporter: the president appeared to put the blame on house speaker john boehner's inability -- >> it turns out he can't control his caucus. >> reporter: that caucus is once again up in arms. despite boehner's tough talk. >> i have made clear for months and months that the idea of default is wrong. we shouldn't get anywhere close to it. >> reporter: the speaker failed to convince house conservatives to line up behind republican proposals to lift the debt ceiling and end the shutdown. it didn't matter anyway. as reed said, the gops plans were dead on arrival in the senate. >> the extremist republicans and house of representatives are attempting to torpedo the senate's bipartisan progress with a bill that can't pass t