pat kiernan -- >> i like your show better. >> i like pat kiernan in the morning. he's good.t that i watch him every day. i don't. >> it sounds like you like it a lot. >> everyone likes the painers? >> everyone who works for you is going to say they're with you and not for me. >> everyone here is from new york. >> but they work with you, shep. here in the news desk. so they're not going to take my side. >> how long have you lived in new york? >> eight years. >> it's an institution. pat's papers. right? it's an institution. chris, every morning? >> [ inaudible ]. >> okay. see? his brother's on that channel as well. new york 1. they used to call it new york 1. now it's time warner -- >> i learned not to fight with shep. >> you guys listen to talk radio in the morning or something in washington? >> wtop. >> you listen to that in the morning. >> cbs station. >> maybe watch fox 5 in the morning. we watch fox 5. but then there's pat's papers. also good. the clinton presidential library just released hundreds of documents revealing new details about the relationship between the clin