the chancellor of the duchy of lancaster, pat mcfadden, will be here. going to be asking him about labour's plans to reform the civil service. is this sir keir starmer's attempt at america's coveted doge.7 i'll also be speaking to the shadow home secretary, chris philp, as the conservatives table, an amendment to prevent the human rights act interfering in policies to tackle immigration. people's deputy of ukraine, alexei goncharenko will join me from kyiv ahead of the ukraine. us peace talks in saudi arabia tomorrow. as ever, we've got 90 minutes of punchy politics to come. do not even think of going anywhere. joining me now is the chancellor of the duchy of lancaster, pat mcfadden. minister, lovely to see you this morning. thank you very much for your time as ever. you've committed yourself to cutting the cost of the civil service, which has an annual salary bill of 16.6 billion. the workforce consists of half a million full time employees. which begs the question, how many civil servants are you going to cut.7 >> i don't want to set out a figure like

the chancellor of the duchy of lancaster, pat mcfadden, will be here. i'm going to be asking him about labour's plans to reform the civil service. is this sir keir starmer's attempt at america's coveted doge.7 i'll also be speaking to the shadow home secretary, chris philp, as the conservatives table, an amendment to prevent the human rights act interfering in policies to tackle immigration. people's deputy of ukraine, alexei goncharenko will join me from kyiv ahead of the ukraine. us peace talks in saudi arabia tomorrow. and after it emerged that triple killer kyle clifford watched andrew tate videos before his deadly attack. i'll before his deadly attack. i'll be talking about violence against women and girls with heather binning, a founding member of the women's rights network. as ever, we've got 90 minutes of punchy politics to come. do not even think of going anywhere. but before all that, with me now to review the sunday front pages is the deputy and us editor of the spectator, freddie grey. freddie, lovely to see you this morning. good morning. >

well, earlier we spoke to labour's pat mcfadden here on the programme and he said the reforms will beadical, but insists it's not about stripping back the state. >> what's really important is to get the best value for money for people, make sure these are good jobs that people want to do and make sure that when we use pubuc make sure that when we use public resources, it's where the pubuc public resources, it's where the public really want to see it. and that's why we fought the election, saying, let's hire more teachers, let's hire more police officers. let's make sure that when taxpayers are paying in, they get a good outcome. that's what we want to see. >> as we heard from dawn at the top of the hour, we can confirm that 2000 migrants have now crossed the english channel in just over a week. that makes up half of all arrivals so far this yeah half of all arrivals so far this year. among them a palestinian man with alleged extremist links. he is accused of posting anti—israel hate messages and posing in photos with automatic weapons. the campaign against anti—semitism says he has ti

cabinet office minister pat mcfadden says it's not match fit for what the country needs, promising ahake up where top officials pay is linked to performance. the government insists it will create more focused and productive civil servants, but unions say it's just a soundbite with no real plan for change. mcfadden is expected to outline the reforms next week, alongside the prime minister's intervention on thursday. earlier, we spoke to labour's pat mcfadden, who said the reforms will be radical but insists it's not about stripping back the state. >> what's really important is to get the best value for money for people, make sure these are good jobs that people want to do and make sure that when we use pubuc make sure that when we use public resources, it's where the pubuc public resources, it's where the public really want to see it. and that's why we fought the election, saying, let's hire more teachers, let's hire more police officers. let's make sure that when taxpayers are paying in, they get a good outcome. that's what we want to see. >> in other news, ministers are facing press

cabinet office minister pat mcfadden says it's not match fit for what the country needs, promising ake up where top officials pay is linked to performance. the government insists it will create a more focused and productive civil service, but unions say it's just a soundbite with no real plan for change. mcfadden is expected to outline the reforms next week, alongside the prime minister's intervention on thursday. now, ministers are facing pressure over reports that an alleged palestinian gunman entered the uk illegally on a small boat. the mail on sunday claims abu wadee, a former militant, has called for the killing of jews and posed in pictures with ak 47 seconds. he is believed to be among the 235 migrants picked up in the channel on thursday. shadow home secretary chris philp says the government must find and remove him immediately. in other news, bereaved families and communities across britain have come together today to reflect on and mark the fifth anniversary of the start of the covid 19 pandemic. families walked the national covid memorial wall in london, casting flowers f