only person perhaps in the world who knew both richard and was a friend of both richard nixon and pat moynahan is a trajectory of what happened when their paths crossed. for richard nixon, it produced a much more progressive their pat crossed. >> for pat moynahan it was something that led to his appointment his ambassador to india and the u.n. and produced four terms in new york. so it was a point their paths crossed very unexpectedly in fact early on moynahan who is called pat and nixon had to ask staff do i call him daniel or dan, they didn't know each other, and they were suspicious and pat did it by proving his loyalty to the president. >> it is a really interesting book about two incredibly important figures in american history. and congratulations on the fantastic cover. look at that. beautiful cover. the sentence that jumped out at me, when i think of nixon i think of kissinger and you write that he liked the idea of imploring pat's sense of moral outrage until he didn't like it. what do you men there. >> that happened when pat was appointed to the u.n., kissinger liked the idea when he