pat o'brien, you know him, you have interviewed him. how surprised were you? >> i was surprised, larry, i think in this day and age, nobody goes undefeated. and that includes tiger woods, i think he's a victim of his own image. the one that he set up for himself. i'm a little more surprised that it's getting as much or more coverage than the 30,000 men and women we're sending to bar from the speech of obama the other night. you know what which he pointed out in the statement that was five days later, he's human. these things happen. >> larry: was it too late, howard? >> it was too late. it was the second statement. and i think there's a better way to do it than another statement. i think people wanted to hear tiger. people like tiger. they want to hear him -- >> larry: he should have done what, radio? >> he should have called you literally on the air. somebody he was comfortable. he didn't have to do the face. he could have said i'm home healing, my doctor doesn't want me to leave but i want people to know. >> larry: it would have helped a lot. >> absolutely.