lets listen to pat roberts. >> you know in san francisco, some of the gay community they want to getpeople, so if they have got the stuff, you shake hands, the ring has a little thing where you cut your finger. >> really? >> really. that kind of vicious stuff, which would be the equivalent of murder. >> your thoughts on this. where did he get get this wife's tale. >> a lie. this is a man who blames gays for everything, hurricanes, earthquakes, name the natural disaster, whatever calamity. >> 9/11. >> i don't know if he went that far. >> he was close. >> so that he would accuse people with hiv, and gay people with hiv, intentionally going out with some sort of wicked decoder ring cutting them and giving them hiv is outrageous. kudos for them for taking that nonsense off the website. the fact he goes on the air and says what he says is outrageous. >> joan, i've never figured out if he's complete vaud rilian or whatever. he went to yale law school, incredibly small classes, hard to get into and he comes out with this over and over again. >> i think he's a vaudevillian. i think he knows

jon: we have heard senator pat roberts call for her resignation. so far there has not been a huge lead of that. every indication from the administration and she's going to keep her job. is it because it would be too embarrassing at this point to add to the misery? by kicking out the health and human services secretary whose job it has been to implement this law? >> i think basically the obama administration doesn't want hearings on a replacement and that's what it boils down to. kathleen sebelius is safe in her job at least until the end of november when the website is supposed to work. we will see. but i would have liked her to take a page from the mayor of toronto and say that we made this website in a drunken stupor and it's just something that happened. [laughter] jon: i don't think she's going to say that. [laughter] but it is an interesting thought. stick with us if you want for just a bit. harris: now i have to get my serious face time to go back to this hearing. okay, we are going to go back to the hearing where kathleen sebelius is answeri

in fact, senator pat b roberts, my oh poebt, was one of only two republican senators who gave her the critical votes she needed to run obama care. that was olympia snowe and our own kansas senator pat b roberts. if it wasn't for pat roberts, i know he's asking for her to resign today but kathleen sebelius wouldn't be in charge of obama care today if it wasn't for pat roberts. >> interesting race unfolding there. from your understanding of the law and i will ask our panel here of doctors. gave them free white coats which is more than obama care will give them, and they get to talk. in your opinion, how does this impact the average american that all these people getting cancellation letters, seeing rate shock. as you understand the law how do you think it will imb pact the average person? >> this is so difficult, sean. i'm a doctor, not a politician. i deal every day with kansans, families. they are worried about rates going up. we talk about access to health care. the surest way to keep a patient away from a doctor is to make it expensive. they call it the affordable care act. not a wo

in fact, senator pat b roberts, my oh poebt, was one of only two republican senators who gave her thetical votes she needed to run obama care. that was olympia snowe and our own kansas senator pat b roberts. if it wasn't for pat roberts, i know he's asking for her to resign today but kathleen sebelius wouldn't be in charge of obama care today if it wasn't for pat roberts. >> interesting race unfolding there. from your understanding of the law and i will ask our panel here of doctors. gave them free white coats which is more than obama care will give them, and they get to talk. in your opinion, how does this impact the average american that all these people getting cancellation letters, seeing rate shock. as you understand the law how do you think it will impact the average person? >> this is so difficult, sean. i'm a doctor, not a politician. i deal every day with kansans, families. they are worried about rates going up. we talk about access to health care. the surest way to keep a patient away from a doctor is to make it expensive. they call it the affordable care act. not a word of

that's why i say this is the tip of the iceberg. >> senator pat roberts of kansas.nks for your time today. >> thank you, gretchen. >>> we want to hear about you. what do you think of the security issues with the website. do you want to give your information to a system this glitchy? e-mail us or tweet us using #therealstory. we read your tweets and e-mails at the end of our show. >>> meantime, a brand new poll on the president's job approval, it's not good for the president. his rating taking a big dip now into the 30s for the first time since 2011. check this out. according to a gallup daily poll, 53% disapprove with the job president obama is doing while only 39% approve. tomorrow bevins, executive editor of real clear politics. let me get your immediate take on that. >> not surprising really. his approval rating had been sliding in gallup down 41, 40. it's reached -- tied for his all time low in the nbc wall street journal poll. one time off his all time low in the fox news poll earlier this month. this is sort of part of an ongoing trend as we see the president'

there is lots of blame for secretary sebelius herself including from senator pat roberts.ake a listen to his tone, dell. >> your main goal should have been to protect americans, and insure their safety. but in your zeal to implement this law, not warnings, advice, or council would deter you. you said america should hold you accountable, which is why i repeat my request for you to resign. >> this is somebody that senator roberts have been talk about for a month now. he sum ported her addition to the obama cabinet, but will hearing it from those quarters were certainly not a welcome message, dell. >> thank you very much. >>> democrats and republicans are celebrating victory's in tuesday's elections. but all eyes are on governor chris christie in new jersey and his second-term win for governor there. and the possible run for president in 2016. john terrett has more from new jersey. >> it may have been an off, off year in the election cycle, but there was no shortage of headlines last night beginning in alabama. bradley burn garnered 52% of the vote, dean young 48. in detroit

one of her own colleagues from kansas, senator pat roberts, was quite harsh. >> in your zeal to implement this law, you have said america should hold you accountable, which is why, madam secretary, i repeat my request for you to resign. >> an old friend and colleague from her home state of kansas asking for her to step down. >> libby casey on capitol hill. as for the president he headed to dallas to promote his signature healthcare law. our heidi zhou castro is here, why texas, why now? >> texas presents the greatest potential for this law to succeed. 6.4 million people in texas are currently uninsured. that's the largest pool of uninsured in the country. added to that texas has the greatest insurance rate for people, one in four people in texas are currently not insured. as for the timing, well, today obama is riding the up swing from some of the positive announcements of healthcare.gov improving. and i think he's just trying to refocus this conversation back to the people that this law is intended to help. about. >> but another big state. another republican state. what other challenges

so people like pat roberts, pat roberts in kansas, lindsey graham, south carolina, mike enzi all have tea party opponents. today, various reasons, competitiveness. so i think the three did have the most to worry about right now is cochran, lindsay and dream. obvious, the tea party going to read stay, nominate their own candidate and it won't matter in the general election. i say most of them it doesn't matter but if i'm democrats i might be looking for a candidate, in some of these states, you know, in case lightning strikes but wouldn't be surprised if they did it again. so where does it stand now? it's pretty steep but it's not impossible. but i think i would put the chances of republicans getting majority today somewhere 25-30%. >> jennifer, before you ask anything serious, -- before i ask anything serious, enlighten us what the lieutenant governor of alaska said about dan sullivan, his opponent, which i thought that was funny? >> he came into my office about five minutes after learning the statement appeared as the lead in a store in politico. you know, something that's important

there are a whole number of programs in the last eight years that have come along programs like the pat roberts intelligence scholars program the rise of the national security education program which does predate nine eleven and the minerva project these are all programs you know certainly the first three programs are ones which there's a payback requirement for scholars so as whereas in the past twenty thirty years ago scholars would get funding to study languages of interest to national security or to do independent research they could get federal funds carry out their work do what they were going to do reach their own conclusions and now there's a shift for these programs where you know while traditional funds to attend university are decreasing or are to do research we have these programs where the scholars who engage in their own work sign these agreements that require them to go work for. in the intelligence sector or to work in the national security sector after they complete this work more specifically in your view as an anthropologist how does working for or even simply cooperated with

. >>> one of the loudest critics was pat roberts of kansas. a long time friend and ally.hey are both from ca kansas ane supported her becoming part of president obama's ca cabinet. his tune has changed and he wants you to take responsible. i repeat my request for you to resign. >> they talked about the healthcare law and this is on the minds of many democrats. the success or failure of this healthcare law will be crucial to members will be able to make a case to get re-elected because they have been supporting the law. as for the president going behind closed doors to talk to them today. >> our libby katie reporting from washington. >> the president traveled to texas today. he was in dallas today, saying govgovernor rick perry is leavig people without insurance. >> here in dallas area 133,000 peel tha133,000people that don'h insurance would immediately get health insurance without having to go through the website if the state of texas decided to do it. governor perry released a statement saying the president deceived the american people saying that anyone that liked the p

that was spearheaded by senator pat roberts from kansas saying it is time for sebelius to get the boot over the lack of actability and the poor management with the problems with the website. last week sebelius spurned calls from the republicans saying those asking her to resign are people i don't work for. she later cleared that up a bit. >>> the republican phase for obama care, she has one person in the corner. her is sebelius' boss the president. >> i think kathleen sebelius under the tremendously d. circumstances over the last four and half years has done a great job in setting up the insurance markets so that there is a good product for people to get. sebelius doesn't write code and the it person. >> and the president said the buck stops with me and his team and job to fix it. >> we played that for you. we want to know from you. >> what did you think of the president's apology? >> it is our twitter question send me at bill hemmer >> and to me at alisyn camerota. and a show down in congress over minimum wage. democratsy getting back-to-back the minimum wage to $10 an hour. oppons sa

a senator from her own home state of kansas republican pat roberts said it is time for her to resign. ainsley. >> doug luzader live for us in washington. >> the disastrous obamacare law prompted worry in the white house. a secret meeting with vulnerable democrats to quote let pressure out of the room. that's his words. the vice president brought in to save healthcare. the healthcare web were there and sources say there is a lot of pent up frustration over the rollout. now democrats are demanding changes to the law. >> one healthcare story is getting international attention. it is related to this. edie is seen here in photos with her youtube channel. she is a cancer survivor and she is about to be kicked off to her insurance plan. she wrote about her struggles in the wall street journal the white house challenged her directly turning to a link titled the real reason the cancer patient writing to the wall street journal lost her insurance. they suggest she lost insurance over her insurance company's greed. she slammed the tweet on "the kelly file." >> i feel like i am a loser in this be

>> some are eagle for bring the president down as well, but one senator in particular, pat roberts aong time friend and cooking of secretary sebelius, they've known each other for decades, he has had a really harsh tone over the last couple of weeks, and he reiterated her had words today. >> you said america should hold you accountable. i repeat my request for you to resign. >> president obama has talked about his statements, and he's trying to reach out today. he met with more than a dozen senate democrats, including some who are facing tough re-election battles next year. senator of alaska, and north carolina, and the message from the white house is that they're working on fixing the problems and they're emphasizing the progress getting americans insured. this could be the make it or make it moment for their political career. >> libby casey on capitol hill for us. on wall street, another record setting day, the dow u up to a w all time high. investors encouraged by the latest comments coming from the federal reserve suggesting that won't be pulling back on the stimulus any time soo

>> she got serious questioning from someone from her home state, senator pat roberts, someone who supported her in the past. he even supported her when she became of the obama cabinet. however, his tune has changed in the last couple of weeks, and he's one of the leading voices calling for her to step down. >> you have said america should hold you accountable which is why today, madam secretary, i repeat my request for you to resign. >> reporter: you hear a sense of the drum beat on capitol hill. the white house says they need sebelius to stay in her job so the problems can be fixed. >> libby casey on capitol hill for us. thank you. >> thanks. >> as you have been hearing, we're still waiting on the price of those twitter shares to be set. the social media site starts trading. ali velshi will be talking about this and much more coming up at the top of the hour on his program, ali velshi. if i am a regular investor how do i get a slice of twitter? >> tweet somebody. i'm not sure a regular investor should get too close. i was expecting to be talking to you about the price of twitter. there is

then pat robert who is by the way could hardly look her in the eye when he called for her resignationtch this video. >> you have said america should hold you accountable which is why today, maddal secretary i repeat the request for you to resign. >> the president was in texas for a couple of effects there. some were fund-raising and some to thank health care navigators and he talked about the various ways he hopes that the website will get fixed. meanwhile that senate hearing put sebelius on the spot in a way the house hearing did not. some came from senate democrats and even though who are not facing a mid-term challenge. let me bring in a couple of people who love to talk about this stuff. i will start with you. our friend max bacchus. not running for reelection who said it's going to be a train wreck. here's what he said yesterday. >> months ago i warned if implementation didn't improve, the market places might struggle. everything was on track. we now know that was not the case. >> so obviously we know the white house is trying to do damage control. give them an out let. the more

. >> reporter: probably the toughest shot came from gop senator pat roberts from sebelius' home state of kansas who said directly to her she should be out of a job. >> you have said america should hold you accountable, which is why today, madam secretary, i repeat my request for you to resign. >> reporter: sebelius did not respond. she's well aware she's not in danger until top democrats lose confidence in her. meanwhile, the chief information officer at medicare tony tranquil is leaving. his office oversaw the rollout of the website. >> mike, thank you. >>> stocks were mixed today. the dow soared 129 points to hit an all-time high of 15,746 points. s&p 500 added eight. the nasdaq last lost eight. >>> up next, is it okay to have a prayer at public town meetings. >>> but first, here's what some of our fox affiliates across the country are covering. fox 12 in portland, the story of a middle school football coach who chose to lose his job rather than cancel an end of the year party at hooters. fox 29 in philadelphia is covering a homeless man found sleeping in the presidential suite at a

kansas senator pat roberts called for the former kansas senator to resign. >> your main goal should have been to protect them, but in your zeal to implement this wall, not warnings, not advice, not counsel would deter you from implementing the exchanges. you have said america should hold you accountable, which is why today, madame secretary, i repeat my request for you to resign. >> all right. one guy from kansas ripping into another lady from kansas. very interesting. and we got important possible trend coming up. state health commissioners are urging insurance companies to extend existing plans that are being killed by obama care. a lot of this is state insurance commissioners, too. but here's the rub -- the state health care exchange administrators in many cases are saying no. and other state insurance commissioners are making similar moves. you've got a revolt here of the bureaucrats. so far, very little evidence 6 insurance plan extensions for the simple reason, i think, that president obama and his whole team don't want them. they want to impose their mandates immediately. so, here

. >> pat roberts the senator from kansas knows sebelius because she used to be the governor of kansasdoesn't like her at all, obviously. he threw her under 18 buses not just one. there is a whole line of buses going over here. but, what i don't understand and maybe you can explain it to me kirsten is that if you have three and a half years and a billion dollars with b to roll this out, to roll it out, three and a half years and a billion, you give me three and a half years and a billion, i will win the super bowl. all right? i will get a team together and we will win the super bowl. and they couldn't even get a web site up so you could call in and get information. and you are telling me that she should just still. >> but i'm not saying that she did a great job. >> i know you are not. you are saying she should stay. >> look, if her resigning would solve something, then she should resign. >> it would. it would send a message to the other people would you having up you are going it lose your job. >> i really don't think that's going to change the dynamics what's going on that much. >> do

there are a whole number of programs in the last eight years that have come along programs like the pat roberts intelligence scholars program the rise of the national security education program which does predate nine eleven and the minerva project these are all programs you know certainly the first three programs are ones which there's a payback requirement for scholars so as whereas in the past twenty thirty years ago scholars would get funding to study languages of interest to national security or to do independent research they could get federal funds carry out their work do what they were going to do reach their own conclusions and now there's a shift for these programs where you know while traditional funds to attend university are decreasing or are to do research we have these programs where the scholars who engage in their own work sign these agreements that require them to go work for. in the intelligence sector or to work in the national security sector after they complete this work more specifically in your view as an anthropologist how does working for even somebody cooperate in wit

it is important to him and high he bumped pat roberts out of the ranking spot to have impact on what the bill looks like. and then he decides -- he has an announced opponent who has been endorsed by the tea party. the theory is it might be easier to beat him in a primary than it might be for the opposite candidate to beat someone else in the race. >> if republicans had a bad night, pick up three seats, maybe? >> honestly if they have a bad night -- like a 2012 night? i see them netting one or two. >> and that would get them 46/47. if they had a great night what might it be? >> 51. they will get the majority. >> so the most likely scenario you would say is? >> 3-4. >> 3 is 48 and 49. i would probably go 4-5. 48, 49, 50. if you were drawing a bell curve of probabilities in the senate. bad night is 47 or so. now in 60 words or less, 2016. in other words why is what happens here important in terms of senate control in 2016? >> you have to remember that in senate races what goes around comes around. in house races, the 2016 election cycle will be driven by the 2014 cycle and those were dr

fellow kansan pat roberts told sebelius there's only thing for her to do at this point. >> your main goal should've been >> but in your zeal to implement this law, not warnings, not advice, not counsel would deter you from implementing the exchanges. you have said america should hold you accountable, which is why today, madam secretary, i repeat my request for you to resign. >> reporter: republicans also stepped up their criticism that insurance companies are canceling hundreds of thousands of policies, and possibly more than three million, according to one report despite the president's promise to the contrary. wyoming senator mike enzi: >> henry ford said that customers could have his model t in any color they wanted so long as it was black. sounds similar to what the president's promised with health care. >> well, senator, i think that the president's promise was in the law from the day it was written, and that is the grandfather clause that we wrote as a policy, which basically said that plans that were in effect in march of 2010 that didn't change to the detriment of the consume

of course kansas republican senator pat roberts comes from the same home state as the secretary. their families are said to have been friends for a long time. but roberts repeated his call for sebelius to step down today. and the chairman of the committee, max baucus, on the other hand saying it's more important for the secretary to stick around and get the website fixed. by the way, wolf, orrin hatch, the senator from utah suggested that sebelius come back every month and give regular reports, so the ritual could consider. >> there was one interesting exchange, where she was asked if the navigators out there, the individuals who are hired by the administration to take information down, they then go through the paperwork, put it through the computer and all of that. if they're checked for criminal back grounds. because sensitive information, social security numbers, date of birth, income levels is all provided and she basically said that there is no criminal background check. >> no criminal background check. which could be pretty shocking to people out there if they're giving the

previously asked secretary sebelius to resign in light of the website problems, and today was joined by pat roberts um john cornyn, ted cruz, m nz, jim risch, mark kirk, john brash, and senator ran paul in that letter to the president. just a reminder that if you missed any of secretary's testimony, we will air it at sunday at 10:35 eastern, and you can watch anytime on our website, www.c-span.org. the senateay on floor, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell responded to some of the secretary's comments on wednesday. he was followed by majority leader harry reid who discussed a bill that passed today that prohibited the visceral nation in the workplace against gay and lesbian employees. their comments are 25 minutes. ve off the capitol. i want to start off this morning by saying a few words about a man who's earned the respect and admiration of countless americans for his energy, courage and faithfulness to a calling that he first received about 75 years ago on a late-night walk around the temple terrace golf course in tampa. the son of a north carolina dairy farmer, billy graham turns 95 today. a

i'd also like to thank ranking member lamar alexander and senator pat roberts for their commitment to getting this bill right. i'd also like to thank the staff who worked so hard on this bill. specifically, i'd like to thank janelle christian-amorte, elizabeth youngman, and nathan brown. with senator harkin, mary sumpter and gray stumps. and with jennifer boyar with senator roberts for their hard work and dedication to developing this important legislation. i'd also like to thank hanna catch on my staff, who has worked tirelessly on this bill. i'd also like to thank chairman upton and ranking member waxman and their colleagues in the house for their work as well as the many stakeholders who have worked productively with us to develop and improve this proposal. in particular, i counted on input from the minnesota board of pharmacy, the minnesota pharmacists association, thrifty white pharmacy and many other experts and pharmacists in minnesota who helped us get this bill right. is our legislation perfect? no. there were a number of provisions in the bill that we passed out of the help

pat roberts says his kansas voters are losing more than they'll gain with the new law. >> in fact, moreare signing up on the website. >> reporter: the health and human services secretary says many losing their policies wind up getting a better deal with the affordable care act and with tax subsidies will pay less. she's admitted registering and applying on line hasn't worked well yet. t healthcare.gov has been a miserably frustrating experience for far too many of these for far nacceptable.these i am focused on fixing it. >> reporter: not good enough for angry republican s who accused her of misleading americans about the program. senator demandihe resign. the say staff oun he's leaving his post focus direct enrollment t cons experience and those upgrades s between now and the end of noveer. andfield, abc news, washington. >> seems sometimes vice president biden just can't get it right. case in point, biden put in a call to congratulate the new mayor of boston. marty ross. there was a problem. the guy on the other end of the phone was not the marty walsh who had been elected. biden laun

rankingoc member cochran and our first farm bill that passed the meing senate with ranking member pat roberts. ro've had a very important and i think president setting opportunity to show how tok, govern. tting we also been working together for three years in a bipartisan way to reform and streamline ths agricultural policies that work for families and farmers andicis taxpayers going back to the supercommittee. and i just have tond say one me time that we are very proud of the fact that during the ptorocs we were the only committee i came together, the leaders in a bipartisan bicameral process we were the only committee that came together,e lead basi s we have been working together ever since. so it's my honor to move on behalf of the senate that the distinguished gentleman from oklahoma, chairman frank lucas, be designated as chairman of the conference. if there is no objection -- there is a second. so ordered. mr. chairman. >> thank you, madan senate chairman. i think that's a good way to start the day, as a unanimous consent motion. most assuredly, you're exactly right. we're very fortunat

host: senator pat roberts leading that effort along with nine other republican with -- other republicans're taking your calls. all of our own lines are open on the segment of the "washington journal." we will start on our republican line. james is waiting from tempe, florida. james, good morning. james, are you there? all right, we will go to our line for democrats. lionel is waiting from fort worth, texas. good morning. caller: good morning. host: go ahead. caller: i have a question, and i am just really disappointed with the way the white house is working. republicans --he democrats are so busy fighting that they are not getting together to solve the problems of the nation, and it is frustrating as a taxpayer and citizen. host: ok, lionel, did you have a question? , what are question is they going to do together to solve this problem with the health care? ,ost: luis -- louise radnofsky is there any bipartisan action going on? we see some democratic leaders going to push legislation for delays, and i believe mark kirk, a republican, has joined with mary landrieu's everett on that front

one of the biggest and sharpest criticisms coming from a fellow kansas, senator pat roberts, who oncen to protect americans to lessen their risk and to ensure their safety. but in your zeal to implement this law, not warnings, not advice, not counsel would deter you from implementing the exchanges. you have said america should hold you accountable, which is why today, madam secretary, i repeat my request for you to resign. >> he didn't have any questions, that's all he wanted to say, carl. back to you. >> all right, thank you very much, bertha coombs. interesting back-and-forth regarding the kansas officials. in the meantime, ways and means committee chairman dave kemp issues a subpoena to provide the enrollment data for the exchanges. let's get to rick santelli in chicago for more on that. hey, rick. >> carl. you read my mind. that's where i want to start, with congressman, illinois representative in the u.s. house of representatives, peter roskam. welcome. >> great to be here. >> i'll chain you here to the post. >> fair enough. >> politicians want to run away from me. >> all right,

roberts university in oklahoma in the 60s. remember jimmy swaggart. the bible college. paton, christian broadcasting university, regent university, jerry falwell founded liberty university. televangelists used to build mansions, towers, theme parks, now they build colleges. it turns out they help each other out. some times hard to tell them apart. when oral roberts university failed to have a law school, they boxed up their whole law school library and mailed tight pat robertson so he could have a law school. he built a law school. now a player in conservative politics. a former dean was put in charge of hiring in the bush administration. lobbying group associated with jerry falwell's lawsuit putting up the press release obama care would mandate free sex changes. i said this week that marco rubio gave his anti-gay rights speech with a guy from pat robertson school, turns out with a guy from the jerry falwell school. always getting these guys mixed up and their law schools. i very much regret the error. the fact remains if you want the republican party to nominate you for pr

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nbc'son c-span, watch coverage of robert f kennedy's funeral. >> this is the pat nixon rose garden.s. nixon was ancient mental in designing -- was instrumental in designing it. she left gardening. she opened up the white house for garden tours in the spring. this is the pat nixon rose, which was developed in 1972 by a french designer. is the only rose that will continually grow at the white house. this is the final resting place of president and mrs. nixon, only steps away from their farmhouse. there is a great story nine the epitaph on mrs. vixen's mrl site, which she chose yourself nixon's memorial site. peopleod will this do if do not understand what you're saying? is the one people cannot speak your language, they can tell when you have loved in your heart. >> watch our program on pat eastern.c-span at 7:00 our series continues on monday with betty ford. "washington journal" continues. host: our next guest joins us from afghanistan. it is major general james mcconville. he joined us for a discussion and he will take your calls and questions shortly. thank you for joining us and