. >> when i was a member of congress in 1988, pat robertson made his first foray into iowa and a lot of the republican party. i said that this guy is a formidable presence. i would like to now say that he is an idiot. he is more more run than -- more on than messiah. >> maybe your not a good judge of character. >> i am offended you have a question about this. this has nothing to do about christianity. it has everything to do with colonialism. this guy should take his ministry to the sci-fi channel. that is the example of being cursed. how did communism exist for 80 years? did the double not hate that? -- did the devil not take that? the premise is -- this is a racist remark. these were black slaves revolting against what they called a white god. >> i did not take race away from the comments of pat robertson. >> it is the most racist remark we have heard this week. it is absolutely racist. >> you are really offended by this. >> i am totally offended by this. as a christian and as a recovering republican, on a whole variety of levels. >> how much of that is planned? >> none of that is

host: pat robertson's comments lighting up the internet with his suggestion.here in washington on politico, ben smith is reporting about it. we would like to talk to you about your reaction to this. there are many already posted. we would like to hear what you have to say as the united states and other nations around the world send relief efforts into the island nation. i]we will begin with a discussin çabout some of these efforts wh samuel worthington, president and ceo of a group called interaction. about u.s. efforts. we heard from southern command generals yesterday. but non-government organizations have a role as well. talk to us about what you are hoping to do. guest: at this point in time, there are over 40 nonprofits operating in haiti. they have large staffs. hundreds of people on the ground trying to find their loved ones and get organized. ñrbut they already committed tes of millions of dollarsñrçó in from the americanq people and working very closely with the u.n. system. overnight in numberç of courtny mechanisms were set up -- coordinating mech

pat robertson what he said last night was really offensive. host: do you send money back to relatives? caller: we do, we send $2 billion every year. it is decreasing because of the economic recession in the united states. a lot of the haitians now, the level of unemployment, and in the united states, 24%. we pay our taxes. we are good citizens and we do our best to contribute as well. and you can see by looking at the panel on cnn and all of those people like wyclef jean, and a 76, the guy playing basketball, political director in the white house -- we are here to intervene to society as well. host: you personally, how much money do you send back? you gave the figure $2 billion -- is that nationwide how much patients bring -- or send back to haiti? caller: what we send back to haiti it is about 0.7% of our earnings. an average of 100, $200 on a monthly basis. by myself i collect money from people for political education and civil society groups and micro credit projects and four times a week high provide training via skype, so, all of us are d

go to hell, pat robertson, the sooner the better. don't speak for hatey, don't speak for god. is suffering a catastrophe and you offer silliness at best and racism atçworst. haiti was the first island in the western hemisphere to overthrow slavery and white oppression. if this is what you call a pact with the devil, god's heart is breaking with this tragedy and ours should be, too. we'd like to hear what you think about this sidebar catastrophe. relief efforts pouring from around the globe. call from washington, d.c. ce&er: good morning.t( pat robertson,ç imperialism, ts is the position -- reason haiti has such hardship is because it broke with the french. just like they caused simbabway to go to hardship. -- zimbabwe to go to the hardship. activated during the haiti earthquake, a heart machine, it can create earthquakes. i would like to know if the machine was active during the haiti-ç-another thing i want t know is the united states -- united nations isçó a criminal organization. it's responsible for the spread+ of the swine flu. it was pattening -- peatenting it as well

it is a guy who admires pat robertson as a religious leader and a political architect, i was in iowa when he finished second in 1988. his coalition, the christian coalition, stayed in that state and built the prototype for the conservative republican party. having said that, i looked at that and said that this is wrong on so many levels and believe me, we get a lot of response on our show. i got equally hammered and lauded for what i said. that is usually an indication that talk radio is working, when people are curious. >> what is the relationship between you and andy parks who sits across from you. personal relationship, show relationship and political relationship. >> in terms of the republican spectrum, obviously, we are both conservatives. andy is the shiite and i and the sunni. it is surprising the number of times we mix it up over things like this. i find myself to be the more conservative on this issue. i felt that religion had no place in this discussion. i did not know andy before i started on the show. we are very compatible. we really only see each other at work. when you

i wonder in contrast how well pat robertson's followers have made out with their own pact with the devil? what i mean is this. path robertson ran for president in 1988. he did something in that year nobody has done before or since he brought three million volunteers to his campaign, got millions of people involved in the republican party all across the country. in the end he came in third but he activated the christian right and all those people joineded the republican party with something in mind, a couple of things in mind. one thing they wanted, an to end gay marriage. for years when the republican party was in charge of this country the house, the senate, the supreme court, the presidency, republican party did nothing to accomplish that for pat robertson's followers. similarly, they want an end to abortion in america. i'm not going to say whether they're right or wrong but i'll point out, when the republicans were in charge, the senate, the house, the white house, the supreme court, once again, they did nothing to help pat robertson's followers accomplish what they wanted. tonight i

like paul wolfowitz, like pat robertson, like ariel sharon, like george bush, bin laden thinks a lot of things that are unreasonable. bin laden is admired. some clearly admire him because of his least reasonable beliefs. many admire him because they feel there's something wrong with the circumstances in which they lief. and bin laden's anger symbolizing for them a desire for a better life. that desire is not at all unreasonable. late september, autumn begins. not unlike those unfortunate individuals who have become addicted to pornography on the internet. a frightening number of americans seek temporary relief in nationalistic fantasy from the unsatisfying completeness of their daily lives. and then they become hooked. it's been going on for years. their dream is not about sex or pleasure. it's not even about beautiful fields or ocean waves. it's a dream about blood that flows from the wombs from the enemy nation. just as the male pornography addict identifies with and rebelled in the exploit of the triumphant naked male in the pornographic scene, the american national addict identif

it makes cnn looked like pat robertson's station, christian broadcasting network.>> host: you write a fair amount about sarah palin in here too i am a great fan of. you write about the way the media covered her, making up things like people were saying at her rally, akhil obama, the way they covered the firing of fur public safety commissioner, because she let him go again, remove this trooper-- >> guest: that is a good one. no one has asked me about that and what i love about that is, this was sarah palin's sister's act husband who head tasered palin's nephew, 10-year-old nephew, made death threats against sarah palin and her sister's father and then in addition to infractions on the job-- drinking on the job and so forth. normally what with the liberal perspective be on this? normally that would be a lifetime tv for women, made-for-tv movie. you have the access into tasered this on making death threats against the father. i think normally liberals would take the woman's side on that but here suddenly for the first time ever the left's position was always trust th

and in particular i want to revisit one comment head by pat robertson.e claimed that the earthquake in haiti was the result of a pact with the desk il, that the people of ha -

look at what pat robertson said about 80 the other day, that they were cursed.have extremists on both sides. -- haiti the other day, that they were cursed. the question i want to ask the gunman, someone had called in before -- and gentlemen, someone had called in before to say that 9/11 was an inside job. even the guy that they arrested in the philippines said that they were going to use airplanes. i wanted to ask, do you think that they said this will happen and we will let it happen so that we can go to war? . . said speaking in an eloquent, often colloquial english, he and other imams offer a televangelist persuasive message of faith, purpose, and a way forward for both the young and uncommitted and worshipers hoping to take the next at 2 g hiatt, officials say. specifically his role, but more broadly these imams. guest: their radical views out there. that one is probably one of the more effective ones because of his command of english and some other things that allow him to tap into young people who are frustrated. and i think the more we learn about them, t

look at what pat robertson said about 80 the other day, that they were cursed.e have extremists on both sides. -- haiti the other day, that they were cursed. the question i want to ask the gunman, someone had called in before -- and gentlemen, someone had called in before to say that 9/11 was an inside job. even the guy that they arrested in the philippines said that they were going to use airplanes. i wanted to ask, do you think that they said this will happen and we will let it happen so that we can go to war? . . >> the common thread between the major and the flight 253 suspect is a is speaking in colloquial english and other imams offer a persuasive message of faith. ive message of faith, purpose, and a way forward for both the young and uncommitted and worshipers hoping to take the next at 2 g hiatt, officials say. specifically his role, but more broadly these imams. guest: their radical views out there. that one is probably one of the more effective ones because of his command of english and some other things that allow him to tap into young people who are

caller: pat robertson was right. it did -- they did sell their souls to the devil.e french -- now they're asking americans to save us. host: what part of history are you saying? caller: pat roberts and back -- said back in 1761, i think, that they chose to sell their souls k7 host: what about allowing the haitians to find jobs here? caller: we don't have jobs. we need to get rid of all the regulation and everything. then the american people can go over there and rebuild in two seconds. host: move on to the republican line. go ahead, please. i think we lost that call. let's move onto snow hill, north carolina. caller: good morning and thank you for taking my call. this was a tragic situation but haiti has been such a poor country for so long and we have neglected to help them. they are in our backyard and would not take too many resources. it is said to take a situation like this for our eyes to open. when thg their heads cut off in haiti, we would not let them come here. americans can show our good side and obama i think is -- this is part of us restoring our image.

just want to tell -- caller: has a conservative, i just want to tell people like rush limbaugh, pat robertson to stop their stupid comments. they are talking about rebuilding. i think we can agreed that 80's major resource is [inaudible] if we could get al gore and all the environmentalists together, with all the billions they have made up of the climate situation, and if they could just take a% of what they have made, and i was thinking they could build solar farms across the country. we could hire the people. did the electricity to the people -- give the electricity to the people. guest: generating electricity is a problem. part of the fact that the country is so strongly the forested is because people are cutting down trees for cooking and fuel. the idea of a more decentralized electrical output, perhaps using solar energy, which is expensive but feasible in haiti -- there are other kinds of biomass fuels available. in the end, you need a reliable source of energy that will have to come from other kinds of deals, like hydrocarbons, which are imported and expensive. in the long term, they a

rush limbaugh and that crazy pat robertson and that minute to infringe on fox news. especially that sean hannity and glenn beck. these people are making a fortune off of people who buy into their rhetoric. they want to be titillated, i guess, or be made fearful. it is almost like watching a horror flick. i think they get off on it. the people who want to bitch and moan the most. >host: washington, charles, democratic line. caller: good morning. i am sure glad to get through to you. i have been trying for months. i watch you everyone. host: thanks. what is your assessment of the president's first year? caller: i have a different assessment because i think that the republicans are still running the show. host: what do you mean? caller: they started the day after he was elected on fox news and started downtroddening him. they are not doing anything. that is why fact check comes up with half truths and all this kind of stuff pretty reason he has not been doing anything is because they will not let him. they are still controlling it. host: "the philadelphia inquirer" goes

they make with cnn look like pat robertson, christian broadcasting network.hat is something to behold. >> host: you write a fair amount about sarah palin in here who i am a great fan of. you write about the way the media covered her making up things like people were saying at her rally, kill obama, the way they handled the firing of republic safety commissioner because she let him go. she did not remove this trooper. >> guest: that is a good one. no one has sesame about that and what a lot about that is this with sarah palin's sister's sex husband two head tasered baylin's nephew, 10-year-old nephew, made death threats against sarah palin and sisters father and then in addition to drinking on the job and so on and so forth. normally what with the legal perspective be on this? normally that would be a lifetime tv for women, made-for-tv movie. you have t.x. husband to taser the son and made death threats against the father. i think normally the liberals would take the woman's side on that but here suddenly for the first time ever the left's position was always

what did you think of pat robertson's comments yesterday that the haitians brought this on themselvescould be so utterly stupid, but it like clockwork happens with some regularity. >> you were going to come back on aig. >> you wantedokÑç to say somet. >> universal right of a -- >> on burden yourself. >> i will tell you afterwards but it applies to what i might have said and quickly formulated it through and go ahead. >> it would have been very stupid. >> is the group coming in at 2:15 the same group as yesterday? a different subset or staff? >> i believe staff are probably already here working on what was worked on yesterday. we will get you a list. i do not know that they will match up perfectly. some people may or may not be in town. >> can you at least give us a general sense of how close you think things are to a deal, and it least a deal that could be submitted to cbo while other language -- >> i think we are hopeful that by day's end they will have worked through, house, senate, and the president, worked through any number of issues that remain outstanding, not just the excise

. >> and just one more quick question, what did you think about pat robertson's comments that the haitiansrought this on themselves? >> never creases to amaze that in times of amazing human suffering somebody says something that could be so utterly stupid. but like clock work happens with some regularity. well, i won't expand. >> go on. >> no. no. no. >> you wanted to say something. >> the universal right of a free press secretary. i tell you afterwards, it actually applies to what i might have said and i quickly formulated it through. >> just briefly, coming at 2:15, is that the same group as yesterday or different staff? >> i believe staff is probably -- many on staff is probably working on what was worked on yesterday. i will get you a list. i don't know that they'll match up perfectly. some people may or may not be in town. >> can you give us a general sense of how close you think things are to a deal and at least a deal that could be submitted to c.b.o.? >> i think we are hopeful that by day's end they will have worked through house, senate and the president, worked through any number

look at what pat robertson said about 80 the other day, that they were cursed. we have extremists on both sides. -- haiti the other day, that they were cursed. the question i want to ask the gunman, someone had called in before -- and gentlemen, someone had called in before to say that 9/11 was an inside job. even the guy that they arrested in the philippines said that they were going to use airplanes. i wanted to ask, do you think that they said this will happen and we will let it happen so that we can go to war? . . said speaking in an eloquent, often colloquial english, he and other imams offer a televangelist persuasive message of faith, purpose, and a way forward for both the young and uncommitted and worshipers hoping to take the next at 2 g hiatt, officials say. specifically his role, but more broadly these imams. guest: their radical views out there. that one is probably one of the more effective ones because of his command of english and some other things that allow him to tap into young people who are frustrated. and i think the more we learn about the

caller: first, i think we should write off the pat robertson comment because we can agree in this situation we need to help the people out anyway. theñr country was in pretty bad shape. watching a report on how prisoners escaped and there are massive gangs. it has the possibility to risk all of the relief we are sending. the effect is reduced drastically. i'm not suggesting martial law, but i think we need to secure some major areas like ports to get supplies in but to make sure the humanitarian aid effort on the ground is secured. i think that is just as important as sending money. host: the man in charge of international development speaks at the state department news conference and has been in haiti. on the republican line. caller: i think it is a tragedy what happened in haiti. if i was in a foreign land or another state and buy a home was destroyed, touching on the haitian immigrants that are here, if i got news the first thing i would do was prove it would be to go home. the most valuable resource right now in haiti is manpower is to help save lives and rebuild. the haitians are not g