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check out former secretary of state con di rice on pat robertson's 700 club club. >> mac and cheese. >> sister, that's my additional. that's the one thing i can rock but only once, once a year. >> good interview christine. congratulations. >> thank you pat. >> what is this mac and cheese? is that a black thing? >> it is a black thing pat. >> pat maybe it's a black thing but from what i can find out. almost mostly a southern thing. it's a dish imported from italy by none other than thomas jefferson which in my book makes mac and cheese all american. as you are dousing your turkey in the dressing and gravy and everything else. rice and i and maybe old pat robertson will be leading up on the mac and cheese because let's be real -- it's open season on the macaroni and cheese. anita? >> on the carats, the only one that gets the pardon is the turkey and not our turkeys. >> not our turkey. we used to make mac and cheese because that's tall girls could -- all the girls would eat. all right, what a great, great gorgeous day. i mean a great day to take a walk either before or after the meal. le

. >> bret: the johnny come latelies propelled pat robertson to second place. behind bob dole.ad of the stunned vice president. bush won the nomination tend two tous --nomination. >> bret: they started to build the bonds for the constitutional conservatism. social and fiscal issues tied together. >> bret: former vermont governor howard dean with the strong opposition to iraq war and pyre nearing use of the internet looked like he might run away with the democratic nomination. >> dean worked the state and worked it hard. >> bret: joe tripoli wa trippe e campaign manager. >> we had been hemorrhaging support for a while. >> bret: john kerry foundering campaign bet everything on iowa. he won. john edwards came in second and dean slipped to third. then he delivered the disastrous "i had a scream" speech. >> going to south dakota, and oregon and washington and michigan. and then we're going to washington, d.c. to take back the white house. yeah! >> iowa is just completely full of stories like that. every cycle i have ever been in, something unexpected happens. >> kerry cruised to the

. >>> you know pat robertson. ready for this. macaroni and cheese. to 700 club co-anchor interviewed condoleezza rise and asked about her favorite thanksgiving food. she said macaroni and cheese. robertson said is that's a black thing. watts laughed and said yes. what do you think about macaroni comment. leave your thoughts at abc two news.com/facebook. >> i thought that was universal. >> hopefully your guests will have better table manners than this. the turkey eating invitational sponsored by wild turkey. competitors had 10 minutes to take on a 10-pound roast turkey. sonya the black widow put away 5 pounds of turkey in 10 minutes. >> get it done with the hot dogs too. >> we'll all and getting stuffed tomorrow and nice weather to do it. sunshine, if you're headed to the game tomorrow night. it will be on the cool side. enjoy a decent night out there. it will be a good one. football, turkey, everything tomorrow. happy thanksgiving and go ravens -- how about that.

. >>> religious broadcaster pat robertson is raising some eyebrows this thanksgiving.s show, 700 club, this was on wednesday. robertson showed a clip of former secretary of state condoleezza rice. she was asked what she was looking forward to most today. >> what is the most thing on thanksgiving you just have to have? >> mac and cheese! >> sister, that is my dish. only one thing i can rock. >> but only once a year. >> good interview, christy! what is this mac and cheese thing? is that a black thing? >> it is a black thing, pat. listen! you guys. other people. the world needs to get on board with macaroni and cheese. >> are you kidding? i have plenty of white friends that love mac and cheese. by the way, just to be fair, the dish is especially popular among minority groups on turkey day, especially where i'm from down south. before the mac and cheese and turkey, many will watch the thanksgiving day parade in new york city. hazel sanchez of our new york station wcbs reports. >> reporter: year after year, thousands of people flock to the upper west side to see the macy's

let's hear how pat robertson's let's hear how he jumped on the president's trip to indonesia this week he spent four years in indonesia. i don't know if he was trained in a madrassa, one of those muslim schools, but nevertheless, that is his inclination. his father was a kenyan socialist, and he talks about the roots of his father. i don't know what his mother was doing. she just sort of flitted around. this may give him a warped perspective what needs to be done to make america the greatest nation on earth. >> if you take that guy's advice, maybe you shouldn't even have a vote. last month, by the way, robertson advised gop candidates to lay off this the birther crap. i guess he forgot his on advice. i think the guy's in his dotage. that's "hardball" for now. next, "your business" with j.j. ramberg. my contacts are so annoying. they're itchy, dry and uncomfortable. i can't wait to take 'em out, throw 'em away and never see them again. [ male announcer ] know the feeling? get the contacts you've got to see to believe. acuvue® oasys brand contact lenses with hydraclear® plus technology,

pat robertson, mike huckabee, pat buchanan.re not main stream guys and don't go on to be the nominee or the president. so i'm not sure what we're really going to get out of this year's contest. i think if romney wins, it's over. if gingrich loses, his campaign has taken a real hit. >> rick: mitt romney is conducting a town hall right now as we speak. we've got live pictures from new hampshire where he's talking to voters there. everybody is in iowa except for mitt, who is in new hampshire. has he kind of written iowa off? what happens if he doesn't score in the top one or two? >> he hasn't written iowa off. earlier this week he opened offices in des moines. trust me, mitt romney really wants to win iowa because he wants to close the book on the nomination. but should he flop in iowa, not get a first or second place finish, he could really be in for a long fight all the way to tampa bay for the nomination. >> rick: josh, as a democrat, how does your party look at this? do you like sort of a protracted battle between these republ

. >> those johnny come lightlies propelled pat robertson into second place behind bob dole but aheadf the stunned vice president. bush did end up winning the nomination and the white house, but the party was changed for good. >> not only did they lay down the parameters especially of social conservatism in that year but they started to build the bonds for constitutional conservatism social and fiscal issues tied together. >> in 2004 iowa showed it could not only turn an unknown into a contender it could destroy a frontrunner. former vermont governor howard dean with his strong opposition to the iraq war and pioneering use of the internet looked like he might run away with the democratic nomination. >> he worked the state. he worked it hard. a lot of people got to know him. the more they got to know him the less confidence they had in him. >> joe tripy was howard dean's campaign manager. >> we knew days in advance we were going to lose iowa. we had been losing, hemorrhaging support for a while. >> john kerr reese floundering campaign had bet everything on iowa. he won. john edward cam

we have to go back to pat robertson and never led a national poll. he came in second in iowa and the republican party nationally and the state polls could have herman cain at the top of the heap, even if it's a tie with others shows you this is a party full of people who just don't care about facts, expertise, experience, or good pizza. >> quickly if you compared the two, do you think mr. cain's performance yesterday was worse or i guess better than perry's? >> i think he was the rolling stones compared to a bar band. that was the one -- one of the greatest unforced errors of presidential politics. anyone can forget something and become flustered which was what happened in rick perry's case, but in herman cain's case, he wasn't wasn't flustered. he didn't know. you can watch it. the mental index cards. trying to find the right to read the sound bide r byte per the advice he gave in the -- he couldn't do that when he got around to answering the question. it was substantially wrong. >> sorry there an inverse form of racism at work where cain is in effe

pat robertson got into the thanksgiving spirit last week on his show "the 700 club." you know him?a co-host named christie watson and they're quite a pair. she got an interview with former secretary of state condoleezza rice, and this happened. >> what's that one thing at thanksgiving you just have to have? >> mac and cheese. >> sister that, is my dish. that is the one thing that i can rock. but only -- >> only once a year. >> good interview, christie. >> thank you, pat. >> what is this mac and cheese? is that a black thing. >> it is a black thing, pat. >> jimmy: mac and cheese you speak of. i have idea -- apparently my family is black. what is this you speak of? speaking of awkward interracial exchanges wolf blitzer somehow wound up on "the soul train" awards. this time he was paired with legendary rapper doug e. fresh and suffice it to say it was not a proud moment to be a white person. >> last year we made history when you taught me how to do the do dougie. i learn the how to beat box. >> really? >> watch me beat box. watch me beat box. >> jimmy: maybe if you repeat it twice mor

. >> the johnny come latelies propelled pat robertson into second place, behind bob dole and ahead ofesident. bush did end up win winning the nomination and the white house. but the party was changed for good. >> not only did they lay down the parameters, especially of social conservativism, but they built the bonds for constitutional conservativism and the social and fiscal issues tied together. in 2004, iowa showed it could not only turn an unknown into a contender tcould destroy a frontrunner. howard dean, with his strong opposition to the iraq war and pioneering use of the internet, looked like he might run away with the nomination. >> howard dean worked the state and worked it hard. a lot of people got to know him and the morthey got to know him, the less confidence they had in him. >> joe trip pywas howard dean's campaign manager. >> we knew days in advance, we were going to lose iowa. we were hemorrhaging support. >> john kerry's foundering campaign had bet everything on iowa. and he won. john edwards came in second and dean slipped to third. then he delivered his disastrous "i

. >> the johnny come latelies propelled pat robertson into second place, behind bob dole and ahead of the stunned vice-president. bush did end up win winning the nomination and the white house. but the party was changed for good. >> not only did they lay down the parameters, especially of social conservativism, but they built the bonds for constitutional conservativism and the social and fiscal issues tied together. in 2004, iowa showed it could not only turn an unknown into a contender tcould destroy a frontrunner. howard dean, with his strong opposition to the iraq war and pioneering use of the internet, looked like he might run away with the nomination. >> howard dean worked the state and worked it hard. a lot of people got to know him and the morthey got to know him, the less confidence they had in him. >> joe trip pywas howard dean's campaign manager. >> we knew days in advance, we were going to lose iowa. we were hemorrhaging support. >> john kerry's foundering campaign had bet everything on iowa. and he won. john edwards came in second and dean slipped to third. then he deliver

. >> the johnny come latelies propelled pat robertson into second place, behind bob dole and ahead of the stunned vice-president. bush did end up win winning the nomination and the white house. but the party was changed for good. >> not only did they lay down the parameters, especially of social conservativism, but they built the bonds for constitutional conservativism and the social and fiscal issues tied together. in 2004, iowa showed it could not only turn an unknown into a contender tcould destroy a frontrunner. howard dean, with his strong opposition to the iraq war and pioneering use of the internet, looked like he might run away with the nomination. >> howard dean worked the state and worked it hard. a lot of people got to know him and the morthey got to know him, the less confidence they had in him. >> joe trip pywas howard dean's campaign manager. >> we knew days in advance, we were going to lose iowa. we were hemorrhaging support. >> john kerry's foundering campaign had bet everything on iowa. and he won. john edwards came in second and dean slipped to third. then he deliver

. >> the johnny come latelies propelled pat robertson into second place, behind bob dole and ahead ofhe stunned vice-president. bush did end up win winning the nomination and the white house. but the party was changed for good. >> not only did they lay down the parameters, especially of social conservativism, but they built the bonds for constitutional conservativism and the social and fiscal issues tied together. in 2004, iowa showed it could not only turn an unknown into a contender tcould destroy a frontrunner. howard dean, with his strong opposition to the iraq war and pioneering use of the internet, looked like he might run away with the nomination. >> howard dean worked the state and worked it hard. a lot of people got to know him and the morthey got to know him, the less confidence they had in him. >> joe trip pywas howard dean's campaign manager. >> we knew days in advance, we were going to lose iowa. we were hemorrhaging support. >> john kerry's foundering campaign had bet everything on iowa. and he won. john edwards came in second and dean slipped to third. then he delivered

. >> i guess this is sort of like when you put republican candidates in front of guys like pat robertson and they start weeping about finding jesus. maybe this is how republicans react when you put them in front of wolfowitz and dick cheney's secret lawyer. >>> joining us is lick magazine editor at large steve clemons, he also writes "the washington note," senior fellow at the new america foundation. this was a fascinating moment. for all the invocations of ronald reagan we've heard in these republican debates, we have really rarely heard the name george w. bush invoked. when you listen last night that those republican candidates, it sure sounded to me like george w. bush foreign policy strategy. of course, with the exception of ron paul. did you hear a return to a neo con vision last night? >> to see david addington, his name didn't appear in the book because he never wanted to be known. until jane mayor's book, the dark side, america didn't know this guy. to walk out and see him in the cameras was amazing. these are the people who hatched and were the architects of the iraq war on the

. >> the johnny come latelies propelled pat robertson into second place, behind bob dole and ahead oft. bush did end up win winning the nomination and the white house. but the party was changed for good. >> not only did they lay down the parameters, especially of social conservativism, but they built the bonds for constitutional conservativism and the social and fiscal issues tied together. in 2004, iowa showed it could not only turn an unknown into a contender tcould destroy a frontrunner. howard dean, with his strong opposition to the iraq war and pioneering use of the internet, looked like he might run away with the nomination. >> howard dean worked the state and worked it hard. a lot of people got to know him and the morthey got to know him, the less confidence they had in him. >> joe trip pywas howard dean's campaign manager. >> we knew days in advance, we were going to lose iowa. we were hemorrhaging support. >> john kerry's foundering campaign had bet everything on iowa. and he won. john edwards came in second and dean slipped to third. then he delivered his disastrous "i have

little bit of thanksgiving menu planning from condoleezza rice and an interesting reaction from pat robertsons that one thing at thanksgiving you have to have? >> mack and cheese. >> sister, that is my dish. that is one thing i can rock. >> but only once a year. >> good interview, congratulations. >> thank you. >> what is this mack and cheese? is that a black thing? >> it is a black thing, pat. >> listen, you guys, other people, the world needs to get on board with macaroni and cheese. >> you guys, other people? is that a black thing? mack and cheese? mac and cheese is bipartisan. thanks to kraft, republicans and democratic conventions for years they give us mac and cheese, you can make it in a box, with fresh pasta, it's good stuff for everybody, thanksgiving or any other day of the week. i'm sure erin burnett agrees. coming up at the top of the hour. with a preview, not of her thanksgiving menu. an important story, an american student jailed in egypt. >> i like annie's mac and cheese. it's american thing. an all-american thing. >> amen. >> talking about cairo, you've been talking to ben wed

but he did come to an extreme firm and extreme passioned notion, he didn't even want pat robertson to run for president in 1988. he thought that was a violation of the separation of church and state. >> let me give with the first sentence in the first chapter of "conscience of a conservative." because barry goldwater said "i have been much concerned that so many people today with conservative instincts feel come pelled to polings for -- apologize for them. >> yeah, this book "conscience of a conservative," i think to this day remains the best statement of what it means to be a conservative in this country. he is so clear. and i think earlier on, you had talked about -- you used the word "simple." i think for me, effs thinking prince -- i was thinking principled. not simpleton or simplicity. but it was clean. it was clear. and those principles are beautifully outlined in that book and it is just as good of a read today as it was back in the day. >> as an author and writer, i have to give some credit to the guy who actually wrote the book, which is a fellow named brent bow bush bozell.