i think so. >> pat robertson made the right point.he electoral college has voted, what, 306-232 in electoral votes. you need 270. the winner is biden. the loser is trump. jeff you were in the room during the biden's address and q&a with reporters. he made it clear he doesn't believe there is going to be a honeymoon or anything like that when he takes office. he's not mincing words at all though when it comes to the challenges that await him. the challenges are aenormous. >> they are enormous and this is part of what we're going to see from president elect biden, his leadership ability here. it will be tested without question. but he's not sugar coating it. he is not diminishing it. in fact he's doing what he don't hear many leaders do, particularly now, warning that the worst is yet to come. at least in the short-term. are warning that, you know, dark days of winter are going to be lock and painful and difficult. there will be more deaths, there will be more cases of coronavirus. so he's trying to as he said steel america. steel peopl

. >> jennifer, has donald trump lost pat robertson? the majority. or is this pat accepting his loss and saying i'll now associate myself with tom cotton or somebody else. >> excuse me. i think he has a better understanding right now than the president of the united states does of the future holds for him. with all due respect even to pat robertson. what everybody should be thinking -- listening to who everybody should be listening to is joe biden. and those really wonderful remarks he made today calling for unity. expressing compassion and hearing and understanding and trying to shallow out the divide that this president caused in so many communities. with all due respect to pat robertson. it's too little too late from him or anybody else who considers themselves the moral majority when it comes to recognizing the destruction of the trump and the need for the country to move beyond that. >> speaking of majority. i want to ask about the decision that came from governor newsom in california. he selected current secretary of state to take the position o

and even pat robertson, a staunch trump ally, is saying enough already. let me play that. >> you know, with all his talent and the ability to raise money and grow large crowds, the president still lives in an alternate reality. he really does. there was something about him that was good, that god placed him in that office, for that time, he's done a marvelous job for the economy, but at the same time he is very erratic and he's fired people, that's fought people, he's insulted people, it keeps going down the line. i would be willing to say, you've had your day and it's time to move on. >> so on the one hand you have pat robertson, john thune, people like that, essentially saying, no, we're done, move on. on the other hand, you have, anne, what jeff pointed out, that an awful lot of members of the republican party still realize, that donald trump has a huge following. where does that leave the republican party? >> well, chris, i think when you've lost pat robertson, you actually have also lost some leverage with powerful elements within the republican part

the 700 club and pat robertson still has a big sway over the huge flock of people who watch his show, so that was a big statement. there is something to this, katty kay, watching robertson and william barr sort of finding jesus, if you'll forgive me, and then standing up to the president of the united states after four years of what we have watched. i guess we'll take it at the end here, given what the president of the united states is trying to do still assembling people to carry out a lame coup, that he's still fixated on. but you have the attorney general and the others standing up to president trump in the 11th hour. >> yeah. we wondered how long it would take, didn't we, willie? maybe it took this. maybe it took president trump so focused on subverting the democratic process on undermining democracy in america for these people finally to come out and say, actually, this has gone too far. even though they're doing it in somewhat milder language. i think as you said at the beginning, willie, we have to get used to the certain level of hypocrisy over the next few years and months fr

john, i want to play for you what a long-time trump suppor r supporter, pat robertson said today nowainst the president. >> with all his talent and the ability to raise money and draw large crowds, the president still lives in an alternate reality. he really does. people say, well, he lies about this, that and the other. but no, he isn't lying. to him that's the truth. >> i think it's striking that pat robertson is now even saying trump is living in an alternate reality. do you think with his enormous following that he could get through to the president? >> i don't think he can get through to the president. but when you've lost pat robertson, you've got a problem certainly with some evangelicals who will listen to him. this is the problem with trump acting much more than a petulant child or a sore loser but someone who fundamentally disrespects our democracy. robertson's language was interesting. he lives in an alternate reality. people say he lies but it's not true. this is about something jeremy diamond mentioned, the president is a petulant child. what we're witnessing is much wor

and by the rubicon, i mean pat robertson.ch this. >> he is very erratic and he -- he's fired people, he's fought people, he's insulted people, and keeps going down the line. so, it's -- it's a mixed bag. and i think would be willing to say you've had your day and it's time to move on. >> so, finish this sentence. if you've lost pat robertson, you've lost, dot, dot, dot. >> you've lost the election, one more time. and you've lost one faction of right-wing conservative extreme ikt i ists. but there are others out there, unfortunately. there are those who want to clearly build a career, around slavishly licking the shoes of donald trump, rather than obeying their oaths of office and upholding the constitution and the will of the voters. if that's what they choose to do, that is always their choice. if they think they can get re-elected that way, then so be it. but there are a number of people, for whom there's a lot more on the line. and i think that gets back to your question about the military. the martial law kind of scary ta

thought i would catch up in the house ofr representativ, never thought i would w catch up with pat robertson the united states senate but because he and his friends took an interestri n me, and because this is america that became possible. pat is only the 34th kansan to serve a term in the united states senate and i like that number. he will recognize we are the 34th state admitted to the union and he's the 34th senator to serve a term from kansas in this body. pat roberts told me to put my running shoes on, gave me a chance and we've had those running shoes on for a long timn thereafter. pat is that fourth-generation kansan who knows us. i would say one of his greatest contributions to our state to the midwest and to the count has been his distinguished career in leadership and agriculture. the farm bills tt he mentioned that work with democrats and republicans coming together fitingke for fair markets for the producers and the support for the crop insurance there's no question they had a strong voice in congress as a result of pat roberts being here. he is distinguished by being the first

even pat robertson is telling trump it's time to move on. >> i think it's all over. i think the electoral college has spoken. with all his talent and the ability to raise money and grow large crowds, the president still lives in an alternate reality. he really does. people say, he lies about this, that and the other. no, he doesn't lie. to him that's the truth. >> reporter: trump's delusional efforts to stay in power now alarming some top trump advisers as well as senior military officials. nearly a dozen military officers telling cnn there is growing anxiety in the ranks about what trump might do in his last 29 days in office. topping the list of concerns, trump's over all discussions about martial law and military action abroad. president trump signaling he will not sign the massive $900 billion coronavirus relief bill. the president issuing a video that was filmed inside the white house without the press in attendance saying, quote, send me a suitable bill or the next administration will have to deliver a covid relief package and maybe that administration will be

realized the end might be near. [ laughter ] not only has trump lost the election, he even lost pat robertson, who if you don't know is the 400-year-old host of "the 700 club." [ laughter ] pat nearly died coming up with this football analogy explaining what's going on. >> when the game is all over and the -- the total has been posted, he says, i'd like you to change the score. and the people say, no, the game's over, you've lost. that's what we're dealing with here, folks. >> jimmy: i never thought i'd see this but the weird little muppet is right. [ laughter ] that is what we're dealing with, folks. our president-elect was out and about showing off his brand-new orthopedic boot. >> mr. president-elect, how does your foot feel? how's your foot? >> good! [ laughter ] >> jimmy: thanks, boniva. it's going to be a very boring four years. [ laughter ] team biden is moving ahead with plans for his inauguration which will reportedly be scaled down because of the pandemic. they're trying to figure out how many cars they can fit on the white house lawn right now. [ laughter ] we don't know if trump p

pat robertson says the american people have spoken and the result is definitive. >> with all his talent and the ability to raise money and draw large crowds, the president still lives in an alternate reality, he really does. has done a marvelous job for the economy but at the same time he is very erratic and he has fired people, fought people, insulted people, keeps going down the line. it is a mixed bag. i think it would be well to say you've had your day and it's time to move on. >> it's time to move on. move on is something the president seems unwilling to do. r robertson's plea comes amid anxiety in the white house and pentagon over what president trump might do on his way out. nearly a dozen military officers in senior roles say the unease ramped up in recent days after the president hosted an off the rails white house meeting in which his former national security adviser floated the idea of invoking marshal law. joining me, jeremy diamond and barbara starr. welcome to you both. barbara, begin with you and the new reporting. you're hearing officials uncertain how to navigate the pr

i noticed just yesterday or the day before, pat robertson, to my amazement, not someone i have ever agreed with him very much, actually, you know, acknowledged what most of us have known for a long time, that we have a profoundly deluded president who is now also a loser. this might form the basis of some reconstitution of a more normal republican party. i have to say, i am very despondent on this point. i mean, once you see someone, you know, you can have a friend for years and suddenly discover -- you discover some horrendous aspect in the character of your friend, it becomes very difficult to unsee what i can'tit. is that when many of my fellow conservatives had an opportunity to stand up against a person that at some level they understood was completely unfair and immoral, they did not -- unfit and immoral, they did not take the opportunity to do so. this is not like standing up to the nazis, this was just staying, -- saying, i am not going to go along with this. nseeinga hard time ou it. if there are 10 good men in the city, will you not destroy it? i think there are at least a few of

teleevangelist pat robertson well known for espousing several conspiracy theories of his own. but now he's saying this. >> i think it is all over. i think the electoral college has spoken. and i think it would well to say you have had your day and it is time to move on. >> reporter: also today the trump campaign manager bill stepien announced that he is stepping down to relaunch his consulting firm. just one more sign that while the president continues his feudal fight to stay in the office with the help of people on the fringe, some others in trump world are accepting reality and moving on. pamela. >> jo johns, thank you so much. >>> for many, this right here, this was the moment. dr. anthony fauci getting the coronavirus vaccine. but up next, the distribution issues we're now seeing which may delay when you can get it. plus, is that new highly contagious covid strain in the u.s.? we have some new details on what the cdc is doing to find out. and anxiety inside the pentagon. what military leaders are telling cnn they fear about president trump's final days. we'll be back. new

meanwhile, televangelist pat robertson has urged president trump to retire, saying he believes joe biden won the election. >> the president still lives in an alternate reality. he really does most of people sight, he lies about this, that come and the other. to him, it is the truth. he is very erratic. he has fired people, five people, insulted people, keeps going on the line. it is a mixed bag. think it is time to move on. amy: robertson represents nines of evangelicals around the country. some of the strongest of the base of president trump. president-elect joe biden is set to nominate connecticut public schools commissioner miguel cardona as the next u.s. secretary of education. that's according to the "washington post" which reports the decision is not yet final. cardona is puerto rican and grew up in public housing. his career in education began as a fourth-grade teacher. he became the state's youngest school principal at age 28. during the pandemic, cardona has advocated for the reopening of schools. although only about one-third of connecticut's public school students are able to

. >> that's televangelist and one of the president's most ardent supporters, pat robertson, calling onnt to face the reality that he lost the election. robertson also advised the president not to run in 2024, saying it would be, quote, a side show and a mistake. >>> now more in the investigation into rudy giuliani, personal lawyer to president trump. two sources tell nbc news that prosecutors for the southern district of new york are trying to gain access to giuliani's emails but first need approval from main justice in washington before seeking a search warrant. that's because the material may be protected by attorney/client privilege. it's unclear if that approval has been granted. the scope of the investigation is also unclear, but in october 2019, the "wall street journal" reported that prosecutors were reviewing giuliani's bank records as part of an investigation into his dealings in ukraine. giulia giuliani's attorney tells nbc news he has no reason to believe his client is under investigation. >>> still ahead, we'll go live to wilmington, delaware, as the president-elect prepare

pat robertson is the godfather of all of them. we don't know where their money is going.hese people who go to africa and sell these kids, they come up like christians. all that stuff is delusional. -- you got top deal with reality as well as being spiritual. the two work together. ist: thank you texas, this vonnie out of georgia, your next. caller: good morning. do with the stimulus check that i have, i am a baby boomer and 59 years old. just did my marketplace insurance. that will cover my insurance. i had to move out away from my afraidds because i was that i would catch the covid. i have underlying issues. in about three months, i was homeless. i do witht should this next stimulus check i get. i looked at my insurance policy and i think that will pay my premium. understand why a lot of people are not practical about this situation as far as what you will do with this money and you should be thankful for this money. a lot of people have died due to the covid. considerationk of from our government. i'm just so sad because as a farmer,my father was a i learned that what y