we're joined now by pat rynard, the man behind the line. always carefully following the latest developments on the democratic side. pat, thanks so much for being here. >>pat: absolutely. >>sabrina: okay, so we just kind of covered this, but bernie sanders came out the clear winner tuesday in new hampshire. did that surprise you? >>pat: it didn't surprise me so much that he did so well but that clinton did so poorly. um, i mean ,to get beat by 22 points in a state that saved her last time around. i don't care if bernie sanders is the, from the neighboring state. it wasn't as big a deal as many people thought. that, that's just bad and it's surprising and disappointing that clinton has fallen back into the same 2008 messaging scheme that hurt her so badly last time. and she's doing it again with a party who's, that's moved even further to the left. >>amanda: yeah. >>pat: so i just don't understand why they think it's gonna go any differently. (chuckling) >>amanda: so with bernie coming in so closely in second place in iowa, then winning in new