pat sajak long time host of wheel of fortune. square garden, and he was talking about the mayor's ban. charles: he's the most popular guy out there. stuart: more fuel for the energy boom in north dakota. a new government survey there shows there's twice the oil and three times the natural gas that was originalll thought in the dakotas and montana. okay, that's three states. charles, i think you've got to add to this. >> absolutely, by the way shall the people in the industry are saying, you guys are way behind. harold hamm who revolutionized this, continental resources, says there's 24 billion barrels just in the wilson basin along because the government is using old ways of doing this and measuring reservoirs. using deep horizontal, he says they're way, way off. 24 billion barrels. stuart: 24 billion barrels of oil. charles: right. stuart: just in that one deposit. charles: where the bakken is and again, the industry knows this and good to see the government catching up, but they're way off still. stuart: and natural gas maybe i

hoyt also developed word games for pat sajak's brand and now "word winder" where players aim to string words across the board. over beers on chicago's north side, hoyt and several friends polished a game they say has sold in the tens of thousands since it came out just last year. at about 20 bucks each. >> people have to work together. >> reporter: the classroom version? that bright idea belongs to an illinois school teacher who saw their demo at the chicago toy and game fair last fall. now, hoyt and his team are obsessed with finding a way to manufacture it at a cost schools can afford. it's a puzzle yet to be solved. >> it cost $800 to make. >> teachers have basically demanded we do this. they're not taking no for an answer. and the kids just love it. so now we have to do this. >> reporter: next week, in fact, hoyt and company plan to begin a kickstarter campaign to help fund production of the giant-sized word winder. they hope to raise enough cash to get the price down to around $225 forrel schools. >>> and coming up, the big business behind the most exciting two minutes in sports.

but considerably more interested than pat sajak who is number 69.l sampling of people who are more trustworthy than i according to the list. judge judy, rachael ray, tim tebow and sanjay gupta. gupta is way up at number 17, which kind of stings but i'm not taking it nearly as hard as ellen degeneres, who is number 18. >> he's a doctor. i get it. i get why he would be one ahead of me but people should do their research. this is advice he gave to the university of michigan graduates and i don't agree. >> lesson number one, do six shots every day. beer is the thing. drink a real beer. i'm really wasted. i have literally traveled all over the world to every continent wasted, completely out of control. i have conceived children in more than 100 countries. >> i like ellen. i would also like to point out that sanjay is nowhere to be seen on the list of the ten best dressed newsmen list on vanityfair.com. he didn't even make that list. i, however, am number ten, dead last, surpassed only by joe scarborough, charlie rose, don lemon, wolf blitzer, lester holt

. >> one thing we also mention and you mention in the book, you were almost took pat sajak's job on "would have been fun. would have been great. it was at a time in my tennis career when i was looking to do other things. i was in my 30s and mr. griffin was a friend of mine. he said come on down. i'd like you to try out for "wheel of fortune." i went down and had a great opportunity and fortunately or unfortunately i continued on with my tennis career but pat sajak stayed with the show and had his success. but it would have been a great time. >> we should note, we're out of time now but in the book you discuss your competitors and, jimmy connors, thank you for coming on and talking to us. >> a pleasure. >> the book is called "the outsider." >>> just ahead tim tebow. are his days in the nfl over or is he poised for comeback? we'll talk about that. first this is "today" on nbc. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] this is a reason to look twice. this is a stunning work of technology. the 2013 lexus es and the first-ever es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection. >>> i was surprised how emotional

but considerably more interested than pat sajak who is number 69.a small sampling of people who are more trustworthy than i according to the list. judge judy, rachael ray, tim tebow and sanjay gupta. gupta is way up at number 17, which kind of stings but i'm not taking it nearly as hard as ellen degeneres, who is number 18. >> he's a doctor. i get it. i get why he would be one ahead of me but people should do their research. this is advice he gave to the university of michigan graduates and i don't agree. >> lesson number one, do six shots every day. beer is the thing. drink a real beer. i'm really wasted. i have literally traveled all over the world to every continent wasted, completely out of control. i have conceived children in more than 100 countries. >> i like ellen. i would also like to point out that sanjay is nowhere to be seen on the list of the ten best dressed newsmen list on vanityfair.com. he didn't even make that list. i, however, am number ten, dead last, surpassed only by joe scarborough, charlie rose, don lemon, wolf blitzer, leste

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