, who by the way hillary clinton suggested, well, may not fully recall, but it pat smith. it was also charless woods, that she lied to them when their sons' bodies were laying next to them. more coverage from the media. is this now -- you just have to accept the media is going to be an extension of the hillary press offense? >> well, the media is very unfair. they're very biased. you look at cnn, and you look at "the new york times." i mean i call it the failing "new york times" because it won't be in business for another probably more than a few years unless somebody goes in and buys it and wants to lose a lot of money. but "the new york times" is so unfair. they write three, four articles about me a day. no matter how good i do on something, they'll never write good. they have people over there like maggie haberman and others that don't know how to write good. i guess if they did, they're certainly not doing it. but "the new york times" is just absolutely a disaster. >> let me ask one other thing. >> "the washington post" has been very tough although i must say, washingt

one of their hosts suggesting that pat smith ruined the evening. and a writer for "gq" magazine tweeted out, quote, i would like to beat her to death. >> oh. >> yeah. joining me now, pastor darrell scott, ceo of the national diversity. eric guster and steve hayes. that's the problem is that you can't really take the high ground when it comes to the khan family when you're talking about wanting to beat her to death, when it's somebody who has got a benghazi testimonial that may not help hillary clinton. your thoughts on it, pastor. >> well, pat smith was very emotional in her delivery simply because she blames hillary clinton for her son's death. and so she was emotional, and she called hillary clinton's name out once again because she felt she was culpable for that. now, khan on the other hand, to me, it seems like he was trying to subliminally somehow blame donald trump. i believe khan stood up as a response to her that the dnc politicized his son's death and he allowed himself to be used in that respect. to be honest, donald trump had nothing to

compared to the coverage by hillary clinton of pat smith, whose son was killed in the benghazi attacks. donald trump lied. straight ahead. but, first, big political news. donald trump getting hammered over comments he made about a father whose hero muslim son captain in the u.s. army died saving other troops in iraq. and, tonight, trump is not the only one getting hammered. so is secretary hillary clinton for comments she made right here on fox news channel. she claimed fbi director james comey said she was truthful in answers about her private email server. but we have the video. so you can decide. truthful or not? but, first, the highly anticipated show down donald trump vs. secretary hillary clinton on the debate staining, hold on, donald trump is calling foul. two of the debates directly competing with nfl football. america's most popular sport. and trump is trying to keep the debate ratings from being intercepted. >> i will tell you what i don't like. it's against two nfl games. i got a letter from the nfl saying this is ridiculous why are the debates against. because the nfl does

khan a hero but pat smith, they revolted just at seeing her? >> i can't speak about what people feel about her. she's on every other channel, every other day. people may be tired of hearing her message over and over. but the g.o.p. did expose her. they did use her as a pawn as far as putting her on the stage. >> if both sides did that, if you want to say it's politicizing a death of a soldier, both sides did that. steve? what are your thoughts on it? . >> i think they're both wrong. i think mr. khan's speech was the highlight of both political conventions and it was a terrific speech and i think donald trump invited the kind of media frenzy but his attacks on the family and insis stance on keeping the story alive well beyond what it would have been had he not engaged. having said that, of course there is a media double standard. it's not like you had media outlets rushing to interview pat smith a couple years ago, or not look liking at charles wood a couple years ago. >> correct. >> i think, you can go back. the main stream media, the broad est

i don't care what pat smith felt after the death of her son. she is falsely accusing hillary.he is not falsely accusing hillary. hillary told her they are going to get the guy who did the video. >> rush limbaugh and media choosing to cover some stories and not others. no question about it all gold star families deserve our respect and enormous gratitude is the media giving democratic gold star families more attention than republican gold star families since the convention khan family done six national interviews and story featured on several additional broadcast pat smith appeared at the republican convention mother of sean smith appeared in benghazi has only done two. both families have important stories to tell. both families have suffered enormous loss and as the media play favorites in deciding what stories to cover. former speaker newt gingrich is back. mr. speaker? your thoughts. >> anybody watching this campaign knows that at least 80% of the elite media is in the tank for hillary. lack at the story now. deliberate lying. even the "the washington post" had to say she is

>> well, she never called pat smith a lie ar.t she said is listen, i am though t totally in sympathy with someone losing a child. others support clinton and other families support pat smith's version of events. that's what we know and can report on. we do not know that hillary clinton one said it or called pat smith a liar. >> you can have it both ways. >> yeah, if i call you a liar opposed to brian was in grief and there was confusion, that's one thing. to say that you lied, pat smith blamed clinton for this and the death. >> she was not alone in saying that. >> yeah, i am saying -- >> you can t blame the video. >> all i'm saying to be fair is that there's an in consistent report here from families of fallen people. i don't know for sure. >> yeah, we know the whole administration and the client was the individual crow. >> yeah, that's a different issue and we can argue that amen and amen. yes, they pushed the video with regard to libya -- no, i don't think that's consistent at all. . i think that if you said to the families this

if she comes out and says, oh, why, pat smith's lying. she's doing it in a nuanced, sophisticated, politically experienced way. >> we have yet to see how this will play out. do you see the hypocrisy? did donald trump cross the line? send us your tweets or e-mails. >>> when it comes to debates, that's next. after the summer we are quickly going to have three debates. debate dates are all set. three plus one. donald trump's beginning to negotiate. like every other candidate, he's not doing it behind closed doors. i have a problem with these dates, they conflict with the nfl. the nfl is going to get hurt and so aren't the ratings. >> the debates would help donald trump more than hillary clinton. >> sure. so donald trump wants as many viewers as possible. take a look, monday, september 26th. that is the atlanta/saints game. this he could have up to 20 million viewers watching on espn. he would like those eye balls. tuesday, october 4th is the vice president's debate. sunday, october th i believe it is the packers/giants game. trump wants to w

the disproportionate coverage, especially when you compare it to pat smith, it's daunting. >> yeah, itunting. look, we're on the fifth day of this or sixth day, talking about trump's comments. "the new york times" puts on their front page, above the fold, how other politicians are reacting to the donald trump statement. meanwhile, what's happening today is the u.s. is bombing isis and libya because hillary clinton's failed judgment has brought us to the place where isis is growing into another country. i mean why aren't reporters focusing on what's truly happening today, things that matter, rather than the six-day coverage of the khan story? >> as we just pointed out in the last segment, a.j., and hillary lying on fox news sunday easily provable and her characterization of james comey. >> this is why this all comes together. we're going to see a fake controversy against mr. trump almost daily. why? because the media wants to keep the american public focused and distracted on the fact that hillary clinton hasn't had a press conference in over 200 days. they want to keep us distracted aw

pat smith who spoke out at the republican national committee, sean smith's mother, she was rid kuld if not ignored by most of the media as if her grief doesn't matter. >> i think we have to be clear, once a person puts themselves up in a political -- for a political purpose, whether it is pat smith because she obviously was at the republican convention, whether it is mr. khan at the democratic convention, things become very difficult. and the fact is, to ignore them probably would be the worst response. by the way, that's exactly what the national liberal media did with pat smith >> all gold star families deserve our ad ration and respect. they can connect culpability to hillary clinton's connections to the death of tir children. there's no connection to the death of mr. khan and donald trump's comments. he wasn't even in office. >> islamic terrorists killed his son and that was not stated i thought clearly at all. >> you know what also wasn't stated? hillary clinton referred to what you called the radical islamic terrorists as determined enemies. that's the other team you're playing i

pat smith to smoke -- spoke out a benghazi victim as well was ridiculed if not ignored by the rest of the media. lou: we have to be clear here that once the person puts themselves in a political purpose whether it is pat smith because she obviously was at the republican convention or whether it's mr. copp at the democratic convention, things become very difficult and the fact is to ignore them probably would be the worst response. by the way that's exactly what the national liberal media did. >> our families deserve our adoration and respect. that being said in the case of pat smith and charlie woods they can actually connect culpability to hillary clinton's actions to the the death of their children. there is absolutely no connection to the death of mr. kahn and donald trump's decisions. kahn wasn't even elected office. lou: obviously islamic terrorists killed his son. >> to know what else wasn't stated? hillary clinton refer to what you just called the radical islamist terrorist quote is determined enemies. that pokes your other team and across. it's very good -- disturbing. lou: pa

then you look at the khan versus the pat smith story, they gave smith and her story about her son seanast two weeks on the big three networks. then the big three networks gave the khan story 55 minutes as of last night. so it appears to be a media bias. is it? >> at this point don't you expect hillary to invite mr. khan to actually stand in for her at the democratic national -- you know, the debate, the first debate, the presidential debate. the whole thing is ridiculous. but thank god for the media research center, number one. but number two, this isn't going -- this has been going on for decades. donald trump has to ignore the media and go right to the people. this will continue to happen. they'll continue to demonize him. they'll distract and demonize. the four ds that the democrats are masterful at conducting in this election. he's going to have to put on the blinders. and move forward and talk directly to the american people. he's going to have to ignore i. if he gets caught up in the maelstrom of the media bias, i don't think it gets him much. he should point out the corruption i

she honored pat smith's son and recognized pat smith's pain. donald trump has done nothing. in fact, he keeps going on and on and on. it proves he failed the commander in chief test, and he's not really the right mind frame to be president of the united states, and it is shocking how bad he's been at responding. liz: mercedes, look, i ask you because this has blown up. he could have spent the entire weekend friday. we said this before the whole situation, talk about the weak gdp. 1.2%. instead, he's tweeting and tweeting against the father of this fallen soldier who saved the lives of so many. >> that's his biggest obstacle. inability to stay on message. >> right. >> you were talking about the economy for instance. chris is right, giving an apology is the right approach. it's interesting because his campaign did issue a statement basically talk about captain khan's heroic service and offering condoleens to the family, but it didn't work. that should have been the first thing that came out of his mouth. it created the opportunity, and it was again, such a disappointment to se

she answered about whether or not pat smith was lying, and somebody had -- hillary turned this about. look at the media coverage. if this opportunity tell you how biased the press is, nothing will. you had at the republic national convention convention, pat smith criticizing hillary clinton for her role in benghazi. that garnered one minute and 10 seconds of coverage from the networks. then at the democratic national convention you khan attacking donald trump for this statement about muslims. that has hard garyed over 55 minutes of coverage in two days. for those keeping score at home, that's 50 times more coverage, a negative on donald trump than hillary clinton. how in the world can this be a press saying that is showing any modicum of fairness? >> it's been pretty proven over and over again that the press is not exactly in donald trump's camp, and for the most part, extends to lean very far to the left -- tends to lean very far to the left, but goes to far, it colors what they're doing daily. >> absolutely is. you had a bona fide interview with aona fide journalist in chris wall l

pat smith has every right to say that. hillary clinton stayed silent.trump deflected away from pat smith's speech by going on o'reilly and talking about himself or governor kasich whatever was going on that day, drawing attention away from pat smith. when mr. khan made the remarks, the choice for donald trump was jump in and defend yourself or make it be a one-day story, and he didn't. that's the problem, you've got to take the high road and go onto other topics like 1% growth or hillary clinton on fox news sunday. he gets back in the hole and the tunnel with the firestorms and makes them last longer. charles: but he does get help, a.b., right? he does get help from the media who all of a sudden mrs. smith made the rounds the last couple of days, and the interviewers were beating her up over trying to make her condemn donald trump rather than honoring the sacrifices that her family made. he does get help in the instances by the mainstream media. >> i'm not -- i'm pointing out that instead of helping amplify her message at convention, he called into bill

. >> trump supporters say they looked at pat smith and how she was handled when she spoke about her son being killed in benghazi and they see a correlation and contrast. others say cindy shaheen from the code pink activist lost her son, how george w. bush handled that would have been a better example. >> look, i don't think there is any question that there is a double standard in the way that media has treated pat smith on one hand and the khans on the other hand. donald trump does this routinely jumps to conclusions aren't warranted by the facts in evidence. he alleges that khan was silent because she is muslim. she wasn't silent because she was muslim. she is silent because she was devastated over losing her son. good muslims to speak out. why don't they say more? these are by all accounts good muslims. they sent their sons to die in iraq. he has spoken out, the father has spoken out against islamic radicalism. i could understand why he would be rankled by the speech. to engage in a fight against them is not only tactical stupid it's wrong. >> that interview did get a lot of news elem

apparently she made that same statement to pat smith and other gold star family members. basically has said, i never blamed the video for the attack in benghazi. i never made that statement to the family members. however, 45 minute later, she was in front of a live audience standing in front of the caskets, and she made this statement. she said -- there she did blame the attack on the video. she said as i recall, these were her exact words. she said the rage directed towards the american consulate was a result of that awful video. so basically you can ally that fact. why would she say i didn't blame it on the video to the family members but then in front of millions of people she did blame it. i'll let people draw their conclusion. lou: that's why we wanted to have you here. and i wanted to say thank you on my be half for you having the guts too stand up and speak the truth it's a commodity and somewhat rare these days. we hope it will become more prevalent. charles woods, thank you for being with us. thank you all for being with us. good night from new york. [♪] kennedy:

>> i feel sorry for pat smith and charles woods. pat personally, i know how much turmoil she's been through. i support it. they haven't got the justice they expect from the department of justice and now taking it in their own hands and i think they should. again, they need closure and they haven't got it yet. >> i think all of us want them to have closure, i can't imagine anything as awful as what they've gone through losing people they love. they were guests on fox news channel and fox business, lawyers, who guess the lawsuit might not go forward, they might not have grounds to bring it, what do you think? >> they're right, i'm not a lawyer, i don't know. i do know when you bring it up in civil, the burden of proof is lessened, so the opportunity is there. they're just trying what they're trying to do is trying to show they've been hurt, and trying to show this is a personal issue and trying to show hillary clinton is at fault. if it doesn't go through, to the american people, they've done all they can to bring her to justice, even

, pat smith's story has been corroborated. hillary clinton is allowed to effectively call these parents a liar and she gets a free pass? >> no, i don't think that's calling her a liar. i will say to the admiral's point, where some are trying to have this family separate themselves from -- and create a difference between them losing a child and being muslim, being a muslim is not something you can take on and off, like blackness, for example. i can't separate those two. whether he's muslim or me being an african-american, i embrace that. i could also lose a child and i can't separate those two things and we're asking those families to separate those two. them being a muslim in america, having lost this child in battle and still having the patriotism of all muslims being called into question. that i think is what we're all wrestling with and something the khan family is simply not going to let go. >> i appreciate you taking the time. out front next, we're awaiting donald trump supporters, this as there are allegations about goin

. >> trump supporters say they looked at pat smith and how she was handled when she spoke about her sonng killed in benghazi and they see a correlation and contrast. others say cindy shaheen from the code pink activist lost her son, how george w. bush handled that would have been a better example. >> look, i don't think there is any question that there is a double standard in the way that media has treated pat smith on one hand and the khans on the other hand. donald trump does this routinely jumps to conclusions aren't warranted by the facts in evidence. he alleges that khan was silent because she is muslim. she wasn't silent because she was muslim. she is silent because she was devastated over losing her son. good muslims to speak out. why don't they say more? these are by all accounts good muslims. they sent their sons to die in iraq. he has spoken out, the father has spoken out against islamic radicalism. i could understand why he would be rankled by the speech. to engage in a fight against them is not only tactical stupid it's wrong. >> that interview did get a lot of news elements

pat smith had most powerful speech. have a hard time watching her interviews without getting emotional. all the pain. she lost her son. they didn't need to die. ambassador stevens didn't need to die. sandra: she has been out on campaign trail and spoke at rnc i blame hillary clinton personally for the death of my son, that is personally. melissa: when you look at points of lawsuit, they're suing on two different bases. defamation, calling them liars directly or indirectly on the campaign trail. but also they make the charge that having used her secret private email server to communicate with ambassador stevens that she basically revealed what was going on and where he was and put his life in danger, trying to make the connection to terrorists having hacked that machine. knowing where he was, it seems like that point could be tough to prove based on what we've seen. sandra: the attorney who filed the lawsuit made his case in a statement. in it, he says, this is part of the statement, it is clear that hillary clinton alle

caller: you brought up pat smith. pat smith had 72nd airtime and the khan family had 60 minutes.ifference between fox and msnbc, fox had people criticizing trump. msnbc had chris matthews calling her names and saying he did not want to hear her story. hillary clinton lied about her and she said she was going to find out what happened. there was another family, she lost a son also because of clinton-obama without doing anything to restore navy seals. it has been on tv lately. they disobeyed orders to try to rescue them people. they could have been rescued. why isn't anybody criticizing hillary clinton for what she said about pat smith and benghazi, what happened over there? why is it just one side of the story in all of these papers and everything, and then you have this one organization, they run some kind of paper, the guy said he would like to punch pat smith in the mouth. up, why are you endorsing donald trump? why are you endorsing hillary clinton? there are two sides to the story. people only hear one side, why is that? host: frank, poughkeepsie, new york, independent line.

bill: governor mike pence asking why there hasn't been more coverage of pat smith whose son fell in benghazismith gave an emotional speech at the republican national convention. former navy seal tyrone woods also gave his life in benghazi and his father is charles woods. we have not spoken since the convention. thank you for your time. >> good morning, bill. bill: do you think there has been a double standard in the coverage these two coverage? >> i don't know too much about the tv coverage. i think the last time i watched tv was monday or tuesday night. i have been camping with any daughter and took her to a rodeo. bill: you are making a lot of people envious for getting away from the news of the day. the suggestion is that what happened at the democratic convention received an outsize portion of coverage than what pat smith and her message was in benghazi. just in a general sense. do you believe the victims of benghazi, your son in fact have been overlooked? >> i think what you need to look at is the fact that kahn was a brave american who gave his life, he was patriotic, but he also happe

clinton should apologize to pat smith for her remarks yesterday on fox news sunday.t would be appropriate. i know mr. trump has clarified his remarks but i believe in apologies. when i feel as if i have had something that's been misinterpreted or either i said that didn't come across as i intended that an apology, many times, helps set the record straight. i'm a big believer. accepting that accountability and making those apologies. then focusing on the people in this country are war weary, wolf. they are so tired of all the conflict and they are fareful of terrorism. i join them in being fearful of terrorism. they want the focus to be on that and getting this country on the right track. maybe it's time for both of the leading candidates to make some apologies, clear the air and then let's move forward and put the focus on some of these issues. terrorism, keeping our military safe, being certain our military has what they need to fight the war. >> you know donald trump doesn't apologize. we haven't heard him apologize about what he said about john mccain. he wasn't r

you had pat smith at the rnc. she lost her son, sean smith, in benghazi. she called on hillary clinton to be locked up, referred to her as a liar. there was no response from secretary clinton. going all the way back to cindy sheehan. she protested outside president bush's crawford ranch after the loss of her son in iraq. kasie died the same year your son, 2004, president bush never attacked cindy sheehan directly. what is different here about the temperament of donald trump that you see when you compare how hillary clinton handled pat smith and how george bush handled cindy sheehan? >> you're right. it is different. and i think we have to look at the candidate. he doesn't seem to have any filter in terms of what he says to people and does not understand the sacrifice that our families have made to support this country. >> when he, donald trump, says he was viciously attacked and you saw the speech from mr. khan, where he asked the question, have you read the constitution, here is a copy of mine. in your mind, how does someone process that as a vicious atta

they're not alleging a dishonest personal -- you can think whatever you want about pat smith or mr. mrs. khan, but they were given a platform. they were given a platform. we invited the khan family on here. so far, no luck. it's great to see you both. >>> up next, mark thiessen is here on the breaking news reports out of iran that the obama administration shipped $400 million in cash to iran at the very same time that country was releasing four americans who had been held hostage. >>> plus 20 years after the murder of jonbenet ramsey, her brother -- her brother is finally breaking his silence. we'll have a full report. you can go ahead and stick with that complicated credit card that limits where you earn bonus cash back. or... you can get the quicksilver card from capital one. quicksilver earns you unlimited 1.5% cash back on ev-e-ry purchase, ev-e-ry-where. i shouldn't have to ask. what's in your wallet? because you can't beat zero heartburn! i take prilosec otc each morning for my frequent heartburn ahhh the sweet taste of victory! prilosec otc. one pill each morning. 24 hours. z

comments about khan, his comments got 50 times, 50 times more coverage than when hillary clinton called pat smith, the mother whose son died in benghazi, she questioned that woman who was a grieving mother, her memory. that got no coverage. trump's comments it khan's wife got 50 times more coverage. there is media bias, but i'm telling you, eric, this might blow up in the media's face. they're being so blatant. the outlets are losing readership by the day. people get their news line now because they don't trust outlets like "the new york times." >> i'm curious about the bias argument. disgraced gop congressman mark foley was sitting right behind donald trump at one of his rallies. we barely heard about that. >> yeah, we can't compare a congressman to someone -- someone to the father of a mass murderer. >> no one's taking responsibility for that -- >> no, his son was a mass murderer, and he's had anti-american statements. from a security perspective, he should have never been allowed. >> can i give another one? i don't have the picture. i wish i had it. i took it on my cell phone. yesterday i was

pat smith shown here at the republican national convention, and charles woods, have filed wrongful death lawsuit. they say the private e-mail server clinton used when she was secretary of state was partially responsible for the attacks that killed four americans. a clinton spokesman says nine investigations have found no evidence clinton knowingly broke the law. >>> a new dump trump movement is underway. group of conservatives wants the republican national committee to hold a special meeting to replace donald trump as the presidential nominee. they admitted the long shot. meanwhile, 50 former national security officials who have served in republican administrations say trump would be the most wreckless president in american history. >> the us continues to top the medal count at the rio olympics, among yesterday's big wings, lilly king, won the breast stroke, beat out her russian rival. she criticized julia being allowed to swim for previous suspension for doping. here is the medal count, the us still leads child, a australia, with 19 medals overall, five of them gold. china has 13 overal

. >> i think pat smith would dispute judy's characterization.at hillary clinton lied to her and what caused benghazi. when he went out on that to tell the world and then they attacked it. that's unfair. >> yeah good point. hillary clinton is still struggling to give answer as of the e-mail controversy. we're going to get into that next. back in a minute. >> it's the e-mail scandal and has not gone away. >> dr. comey said that my answers were truthful. that's the bottom line here. what i told the fbi was truthful and is consistent with what i have said publicly. i may have short circuited and for that, i will try to clarify. i think chris wallace and i were probably talking past each other. >> back to the panel and judy miller and then scott brown. she said that it was short circuited. >> yeah, she has to get over this and has to get a better answer and something like i'm sorry and just the way that she did. here is the truth and necrepubln party when you have john kasich saying that he is not endorse donald trump. he did not endorse hillary clin

i find it ironic that you have pat smith who's the mother of one of the soldiers who died in benghazi who spoke at your convention. >> between all the news networks she's gotten 70 seconds of air time. the khan father-in-lmily has gos of news time. >> one of the things, when pat smith spoke at the republican convention, your dad called into bill oh ri'reilo'reilly. it wasn't even covered on fox because of that. >> i think the point i'm trying to make is, it almost does seem like there's a double standard between the two. hillary's policies put the people there. my father was against the iraq war. you could say many of those soldiers would still be alive today if my father was commander in chief back then. >> but your father's running mate also voted for the iraq war. >> that's not my father. he always talks about don't go into syria, libya, iraq. you're going to destablize the middle east. >> can i ask you something going back to your father's support of veterans. we now have families of 23 fallen soldiers, gold star families who have written a letter specifically to your father. it s

up had pat smith, the mother of one of benghazi, one of the soldiers in the benghazi, she got 70 secondsf air time. the khan family has gotten hours and hours of air time. what's ironic, hillary is the one that left hem on the roof in benghazi. it's hillary's policy in iraq -- >> one of the things, pat smith actually spoke at the republican national convention, and the channel switched to bill o'reilly. it wasn't even covered on fox. certainly that had been a mistake but it was -- >> i think the point that i'm trying to make more, it almost seems like there's a double standard between the two. hillary's policies put those people in. you could arguably say, many of their soldiers would still about live today if my father was commander in chief back then. >> your father's running mate also voted for the iraq army. >> he spoke about that. that's not on my father. he always talked don't go into libya, don't go into iraq. it's ironic that somebody who voted for all of these things is ultimately getting credit in this situation. >> can i ask you something, going back to your father's support o

that was pat smith, mother of sean smith who was killed in the benghazi terror attack.acklash over his response to a gold star family, not many news outlets are talking about hillary clinton's response to mrs. smith. listen. >> i don't hold any i'll feeling for someone who in that moment may not fully recall everybody that was or wasn't said. >> i think there has been a confusion in the minds of some and exploiting that confusion for the advantage of others. elizabeth: pete hegseth is iraq and afghanistan rhett van as well as a fox news contributor. thank you so much for joining us. we just heard from secretary clinton on "fox news sunday" but this isn't the first time that she's made reference to pat smith. what was your reaction to this? are you surprised we're not seeing it splattered across more headlines? >> of course i'm not. media, left-wing mainstream media has a clear bias for hillary clinton and against donald trump. so even though she continues to deny what has been proven that she told her daughter, her own daughter, hillary clinton told her own daughter che

charles woods and pat smith both lost sons in 2012.court papers they claim hillary clinton's actions contributed attack. >> this is verbatim soon after she spoke it. here it is. i gave hillary a hug and shook her hands and she said, "we are going to have the filmmaker arrested who is responsible for the death of my son." that has nothing do with my memory. this is a contemporaneous writing. bill: here is a man who survived by repelling the terrorists. chris tonto paronto. what's if the case? >> i think it's a good thing. they are standing up. system failed them, the system that was supposed to keep people accountable has not. the a.g. on the runway there, i think there was some things going on. by them taking upon themselves, they are showing they are still strong and pushing back. i agree with it. i think they should. right now hillary is above the law. we are continuing to see that. the only way we'll bring her back down is by doing it ourselves. bill: there is a couple things i want to play for you and i want you to react. hillary c

. >> i think pat smith would dispute judy's characterization.ory that hillary clinton lied to her and what caused benghazi. when he went out on that to tell the world and then they attacked it. that's unfair. >> yeah good point. hillary clinton is still struggling to give answer as of the e-mail controversy. we're going to get into that next. back in a minute. look at all these purchases you made with your airline credit card. hold on...you only got double miles on stuff you bought from that airline? let me show you something better. the capital one venture card. with venture, you earn unlimited double miles on every purchase... not just...(dismissively) airline purchases. every purchase. everywhere. every day. no really! double miles on all of them! what's in your wallet? >> it's the e-mail scandal and has not gone away. >> dr. comey said that my answers were truthful. that's the bottom line here. what i told the fbi was truthful and is consistent with what i have said publicly. i may have short circuited and for that, i will try to clarify. i

pat smith and charles woods lost their sons when the u.s. diplomatic am pound was attacked while clinton was the secretary of state. clinton is responsible for the deaths and blamed negligent and reckless use of a private e-mail server for compromising the american security. the fbi says clinton was careless for using a private server but no ground for criminal prosecution. >> former cia operator has stepped out of the shadows to the spot light to run for president coming fm independent candidates responding to people who say he is out to play poller. >> a in bro exclerk was shot and killed bay man who corner of east 198th street and valentine avenue in bedford park remains a crime scene. just after 1:00 a.m. on tuesday. >> two uniformed officers assigned to patrol in the 52nd precinct were flagged done buy a civilian, regarding a dispute inside of the deli grocery store. according toness withs and the police, 30-year-old effron guzman, a local, who regularly hangs around the street, have been causing a disservice. the clerk of that bodega,

one of the most dramatic moments in the republican convention was when pat smith, the mother of sean smith, one of the people who died in benghazi stood up before the convention and blamed you for her son's death. >> i blame hillary clinton. >> i blame hillary clinton personally for the death of my son. >> she and the father of tyron woods both say on the day their bodies were returned to the united states you came up to them and you said it was all because of a video, not terrorism. i know some of the other families disagree with you and i know you deny it. why would they make that up? >> chris, my heart goes out to both of them. losing a child under any circumstance especially in this case, two state department employees, both of them , i understand the grief and the incredible sense of loss that can motivate that. as other members of families who lost loved ones have said i don't hold any ill feeling for someone who in that moment may not fully recall everything that was or wasn't said. >> one reason that people question your account, this gets to the important question of trust.

one of the most dramatic moments in the republican convention was when pat smith, the mother of sean smith, one of the people who died in benghazi stood up before the convention and blamed you for her son's death. >> i blame hillary clinton. >> i blame hillary clinton personally for the death of my son. >> she and the father of tyron woods both say on the day their bodies were returned to the united states you came up to them and you said it was all because of a video, not terrorism. i know some of the other families disagree with you and i know you deny it. why would they make that up? >> chris, my heart goes out to both of them. losing a child under any circumstance especially in this case, two state department employees, both of them , i understand the grief and the incredible sense of loss that can motivate that. as other members of families who lost loved ones have said i don't hold any ill feeling for someone who in that moment may not fully recall everything that was or wasn't said. >> one reason that people question your account, this gets to the important question of trust.

here's pat smith of veterans he lets on. >> i blame hillary clinton personally for the death of my son, personally. kennedy: clinton's campaign is response and lawsuit saying they can imagine the family's pain nine different investigations found no evidence of any wrongdoing by clinton. here to discuss fox's national security analyst just -- analysts k.t. mcfarland. you can only imagine the grief that these families have. they want answers. they watch secretary clinton on capitol hill more than once testify about benghazi. they read some of the reports from fbi director james comey about her server and what might have been in there including u.s. ambassador chris stevens whereabouts. >> i am a mother and now mother-in-law's naval officers and i just can't imagine what these families are going through and the loss and the anger and bitterness the bitterness and the doubts and the questions and all that. i must say i am hillary clinton's biggest critic on libya, on isis in the way she handled benghazi before, during and after but i'm going to break with most conservatives and say i don't