i'm pat sullivan the director of the family care association of san francisco. i think if you look at the group of people that spoke most are women and people of color. have you to start asking yourself who do you want to listen to in the city. business leaders are probably not women or people of color. though they may have a vested interest of how to things go in the city, they probably don't live here or send their kids to school hore -- here and probably don't vote here. this say woman's issue and childcare measure has the biggest bang for the buck. while we spend a lot of time talking about supporting, this is going to be a bigger impact faster and will impact more lives than the housing measure that's currently being discussed. thank you. >> thank you, next speaker. >> hi, i'm michelle lundy. a retired childcare provider. i had a preschool in glen park for 33 years. i'm for both measures. i don't want to be campaigning against housing but it's an impossible situation here with the two legislations. we need both. i brought you valentines yesterday from our c