political reporter pat warren has more on the former speaker's visit. pat? >> well, that's right. as you know, the newt gingrich campaign comes on the heels of the mitt romney campaign last week. >> the former campaign speaker's swing through maryland brings him to the state house, where he takes a bow at the state senate, before taking a shot at the government's gas tax. >> there's talk about an increase in the gas tax for maryland. which i think shows political insensitivity as you can imagine. given the effort made to raise the price by as much as 25 cents a gallon, strikes me as being very, very anti, everyday working american. >> then leaving his own car parked, gingrich had his own car taken. >> he has got a great mind, sharp mind. history buff. we had a lot of history to talk about here. >> then on to ruth ann's deli for lunch. >> all candidates are welcome. we had john mccain in here a couple of years ago. and we have newt gingrich and whoever would like to come in, we take them all. >> reporter: they said the republican primary is the best he's seen. >> well, i think it's

i'm pat warren. coming up. maryland lawmakers have some big fish to fry. >>> i'm mike schuh, live. the weather is warm and business is blooming. i'll tell you where when eyewitness news returns. >>> any more showers coming this way? stick around for the updated first warning weather forecast. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, >>> we have more breaking news for you now. several people hit in reisterstown. >> reporter: yes, this is along reisterstown road in owings mills. originally reported as multiple pedestrians struck. when we arrived, they were packaging one person. we saw one person put in the ambulance. it's not clear if someone else was placed in prior to our arrival. but we can't seem to find a vehicle that may have struck that person. it's not clear whether it has left the scene. but there are several baltimore county police cars on the scene. they have blocked one lane of southbound reisterstown road. at pleasant ridge. as they continue their investigation. we'll keep you updated as we continue to gather information and update you as the situation warrants. back to you. >> thank you, cap

i'm pat warren, in annapolis.re the senate budget and taxation committee takes first crack at a new budget. >>> in a stunning move, the president announced he was moving the g-8 summit to camp david here in maryland. how they're preparing to welcome the most powerful leaders in the world. that's next. >>> a fantastic thursday. but -- dhairchls are coming in time for the weekend. don't miss the updated forecast. >> check in for these stories and all the day's breaking news. >> wjz eyewitness news at 6:00 starts now. >>> stunning twist. the investigation into a city officer, in connection with the

reporting from annapolis, i'm pat warren. ck to you on tv hill. >> pat, thank you. >>> lawmakers are also considering raising your personal income tax rate this year. >>> if you're waiting for someone to get home from work, let's check on the roads with kristy breslin at traffic control. >>> hi, kai. hi, everyone. plenty of traffic out there. 70 westbound, jammed up there, pretty heavily, from 29 to marriottsville road. if you're traveling on the beltway, no improvement in sight. expect 20 minutes from frederick to security boulevard. north side inner loop, that delay stretches from harford road to 95. and the north side outer loop still seeing some congestion there as well, from york road to the harrisburg expressway. we have a vehicle fire that we're watching. windsor mill road at windsor place. other accidents include reisterstown road at sherwood avenue. russell street at bay around. and also frank ford at anthony avenue. let's take a live look. you can see, there is your drive, 70 westbound at 29. it's going to take you q

political reporter pat warren is breaking down the preliminary proposal for us. >> that's right. the mayor is looking for cuts that will allow the city to give property tax homeowners a 2-cent tax break. >> reporter: the budget includes the first two-cent installment of a plan to reduce homeowner property taxes by 20% over the next eight years, which will eventually be offset by slots revenue. >> we knew at the time that we developed the plan that the slots probably wouldn't be open. so we knew we could do that through some of the innovative ways we were saving. >> reporter: city employees for the first time in recent years, won't have to take mandatory furlough days. they will also have to pay higher costs for benefits. the mayor will permanently close three fire companies. the budget also eliminates 231 positions, most of them unfilled. >> we're looking to have an efficient government. >> reporter: according to the mayor, closing three fire companies is in keeping with that efficiency. >> it gives some permanency, reliability. and it allows the department to plan, every day. yo

reporting from annapolis, i'm pat warren. back to you on tv hill. >>> maryland's last execution was in 2005. there are five inmates on death row right now in the state. >>> state police in pennsylvania shoot and kill a maryland driver after a roadside attack. 45-year-old darrell berry of columbia and another motorist were arguing along i-76, north of breezewood, when the trooper arrived at the scene last night. that's when police say berry approached the trooper with a pair of aggressive dogs and then hit him with a flashlight several times. the trooper fired, killing berry. the unidentified trooper who was flown to the hospital is expected to recover. >>> breaking news out of tulsa, oklahoma. where a shooter opened fire outside a county courthouse. details are coming in. three people, including a sheriff's deputy were wounded. a spokesperson said they were firing into the air. deputies fired at officers who fired back. one man was taken to the hospital in critical condition. one is in serious condition. and a female bye stan

reporting live from the state house, i'm pat warren. now, back to you. >> thank you so much. and we will have much more on tonight's bill signing and reaction, coming up all new at 6:00. >>> more fallout tonight, for state senator ulysses currie, according to our baltimore media partner, the baltimore sun, currie has been removed from two important committees. it is all part of his punishment, decided by his colleagues, after an ethics pag decided he should disclose income. >>> the notorious alcoholic drink, four loko, has been linked to two deaths in maryland. some say the government is not going far enough to warn about its legal potency. mike hellgren investigates the criticism. mike? >> reporter: kai, the manufacturer took caffeine out of four loko. but some, including maryland's attorney general, say it's still too strong with alcohol. and he would like to see the portion size downsize said. >> reporter: it's nicknamed blackout in a can. and the furor over four loko has reached a fevered pitch. saying a settlement with the maker over its packaging and marketing doesn't g

pat warren has more on where newt gingrich is expected to campaign tomorrow, pat. >> reporter: that's right, right time, right place for once maryland's primary stands out from the crowd and we are in the process of early voting. in baltimore county and around the state maryland voters cast their primary election ballots today. >> we still have major issues health wise, education, taxes. and spending just it's too much spending. >> reporter: early voting started saturday fresh off a visit last week by former massachusetts governor mitt romney who's campaign is headed by bob ehrlich. rick santorum's campaign is also penciled in for tuesday. and ron paul holds a meeting at university park on tuesday. it's a lot more attention than republicans are hoping to receive, but they're paying close attention. >> whether it's romney or santorum or ron paul or newt gingrich. we have four people and that's a lot to choose from. and sometimes it's hard but you have to listen to it all. >> reporter: political analysts richard bats of romney supporters say there are some things to be gained by making

pat warren is in annapolis where newt gingrich is expected tomorrow. >>> right time, right place andrepublican presidential candidates are taking advantage of that. in baltimore county and around the state maryland voters cast their election ballots today. >> we still have major issues health wise, education, taxes. and spending just it's too much spending. >> reporter: early voting started saturday, fresh off a visit last week for former massachusetts governor mitt romney who's maryland campaign is headed by former governor bob ehrlich. newt gingrich is scheduled to visit annapolis next week. former senate's rick santorum's campaign is also penciled in. and ron paul holds a town meeting on wednesday. it's a lot more attention than maryland republicans have come to expect but these are unusual times, but voters are paying close attention. >> whether it's romney or santorum or ron paul or newt gingrich, we have four people. and that's a lot to choose from. and sometimes it's hard. but you have to listen to it all. >> reporter: political analyst richard bats of romney supporters says t

pat warren has the latest on the debate. >> reporter: that's right.his could be another heart breaker for supporters of medical marijuana, that's because this time it's the state and not the patients afraid of breaking the law. instead of looking forward to the future, 21-year-old philip wagner is fighting for it. last area diagnosed with stage four neuro neuroblastoma, he found himself in court for using marijuana to help him eat. >> it was a traffic stop. i was on my way home from a friend's house and pulled over and there was marijuana in the car. i wasn't under the influence, i was trying to get home. >> reporter: williams returns to the general assembly to try to leaguize medical marijuana. >> my family is here. my relatives are here, my mom is here, she is in the hospital right this minute. this is an issue that bothers me because this could be help mig mother. >> a task force proposed two proposals. the feds may step in and have o'malley backing off and the health department backing off with him. >> the bottom line is that the governor and i ar

i'm pat warren reporting, back to you. >> thank you. this crush is also raising questions about police policies in that county. >>> in baltimore county, police are looking for the person behind a violent attack at a gas station. it happened last night at this sunoco in patent law. police say one man was nabbed during an altercation. he is now recovering. police say they are searching for the suspect. >>> one anne arundel county student stands up against a bully and now her classmate is facing harassment charges. at the capital of annapolis newspaper reports that police charged a student is a juvenile last week and then released him to his family. the bullied student whose name is sarah recently came forward and complained about being teased at school and online. school leaders also suspended the accused student and he could be sent to an alternative high school as well. >>> maryland's primary is just two weeks away but early voters are already hitting the polls. starting this weekend voting the worst tech talk 28:00 p.m. on saturdays, f

political reporter pat warren breaks down the ins for us. pat? >> that's right. mayor rawg is looking for something to give a 2% tax. >> the first 2% installment to reduce property taxes. it will eventually be offset by slots revenue. >> we knew that the slots would not be open. so we knew we could do that. through some of the innovative ways. >> the city employees will not be getting a cost of living raise. but for the first time in year the, they won't have to take mandatory furlough days. the mayor will stop the rotating fire company closures and permanently close three fire companies. the budget also eliminates 231 positions, most of them unfilled. >> we're looking to have an efficient government. >> reporter: according to the mayor, closing three fire companies is in keeping with that efficiency. >> it gives them permanency. and reliability. predictability. and it allows the department to plan every day. you know, whatever day of the week it is, for those closures, so they can respond more efficiently. to calls. >> reporter: the fire union calls it risky. >>

reportingreporting from towson, i'm pat warren. back to you on tv hill. >> thanks, pat. wjz 13 is always on. check in for campaign 2012. maryland's primary is tuesday. you can count on us for updated results and information about the candidates. >>> in tonight's wjz healthwatch, experts on eating disorders are watching a new phenomenon. mary joins us with the surprising details. mary? >> well, denise. facebook may be fueling bad body image. shepherd pratt commissioned the eye-opening survey. >> reporter: body and weight obsession may have a new venue, after working out at the gym, it seems many people are breaking a sweat over how they look on fairs book. -- facebook. >> on facebook, what they're doing is they're actively comparing their photos to the photos of their friends. >> reporter: dr. steven crawford, the associate director at the center for eating disorders at shepherd pratt, says of the people surveyed, ages 16 to 40, 75% are unhappy with their bodies. 51% reported that seeing photos of themselves on facebook, makes them more body conscious. and 32% feel sad, c

reporting from annapolis, i'm pat warren. back to you on tv hill. >>> maryland's last execution was in 2005. right now, there are five inmates on death row in this state. >>> hope you you had a chance to stay outside. flowers are blooming. and wjz found plenty of people soaking up the sun today at druid hill park. take a look at that. here's a live look. you can't ask for better weather than this in march. but will it stick around? >> bob; you're beautiful, too, bernadette. >> those were blooming three to four weeks ahead of time. >>> let's take a look at temps around the region. very, very warm this time of night. 64 here in washington. ocean city with a breeze off the water there. we're at 50 and cumberland at 63. these temperatures right now are running 22 degrees warmer than at the same time yesterday. pax river, 23 degrees warmer. and oakland, just 9 degrees warmer. so you know it's been a mild winter. well, here are the official numbers from bernadette on just how warm it's been. most of us have never experienced a wint

pat warren has more. >> this could shape up to another heartbreaker for supporters of medical marijuana, but this time it's the state and not the patients who are afraid of breaking the law. >> reporter: instead of simply looking forward to the future, 21-year-old philip wagner is fighting for it. last year, diagnosed with stage 4 neuroblastoma, he found himself in court for using marijuana to help him eat. >> it is actually a traffic stop. i was on my way home from a friend's house and i was pulled over and there was marijuana in the car. i wasn't under the influence. i was just trying to get home. >> reporter: it's for philip and others, including himself, that baltimore native montel williams returns to the general assembly this year to try to legalize medical marijuana. >> my family's here. my relatives are here. my mom is here right now. she's in the hospital this minute. this is an issue that bothers me because were this passed, this could help my mother right this minute. >> reporter: a task force produced two propose pals, one which was approved, but now it appears the feds may

reporting live i'm pat warren, now back to you. >>> all right, thank you pat. deputy chief davis will appear before the council monday night he will not be under oath at the time. >>> a tremendous gift, a terrific honor. an historic catholic church named his community center after camille and bill cosby. the median and his wife gave $2 million to the st. francis academy. that is the largest gift in that school's 184 year history. >>> well this summer an international soccer rivalry is coming here to baltimore, liverpool and the hotmore clubs will face off. the game is july 28th, tickets will go on sale tuesday. it'll be the third high profile soccer game on the ravens home turf and the ravens fans hope it will bring fans from across the country. >>> a bus full of school children caught in a tornado. >> look it's a funnel cloud. >>> how their driver managed to get everybody out before the bus was totally destroyed. >>> plus, quit now, a graphic anti smoking campaign gets a huge response. the sudden surge in people trying to kick the habit. >>> a major security b

i'm pat warren. back to you on tv hill. >> pat, thank you. stay with wjz for complete coverage of campaign 2012. we'll bring you the latest on the candidates and the results during maryland's april 3rd primary. >>> the mega millions jackpot is the biggest ever. and it is not stopping there. the winner will now receive -- eye feel like we need a drum roll. $540 million. thank you, kai. lottery officials decided to raise the jackpot today because of the high ticket sales. the cash option is $398.8 million. the odds to win the mega millions are $176 million to 1. you have until -- 176 million to one. you have until 10:00 tomorrow to buy a ticket before the drawing friday night. >> we are very anxious. >>> still ahead. forced to flee. see what happens when a family has just minutes to escape a wildfire in colorado. >>> diagnosing a disorder. the new report that finds more children have autism. >> i'm gigi barnett at kennedy krieger institute. that story is next. >>> the sun is shining. there's no rain in sight. but will it be another wet weekend?

reporting from annapolis, i'm pat warren. back to you on tv hill. >> the state is also considering a bill to add a 6% sales tax to the price of gasoline. >>> as summer quickly approaches, maryland's most popular beaches is adding several free events. ocean city will offer new deals for the public every night of the week. including fireworks shows every tuesday night. beach goers, or beach concerts throughout the week as well. and a laser light show every friday. the dew tour will also return to the beach in july. very cool. >> another reason to head on down the ocean. >> down the ocean. >>> still to come tonight on wjz eyewitness news. >> breakthrough stem cell technology for dogs. i'm mary bubala. coming up, does it really work? meet an annapolis dog owner who is convinced it does. >>> i'm alex demetrick. coming up, a supreme court decision could help open the prison doors for a convicted child rapist in maryland. that story as eyewitness news continues. >>> deadly confrontation. a standoff in france ends with gunfire. how a

reporting from annapolis, i'm pat warren. back to you on tv hill. >> once the budget passes the senate, it goes to the house. and the dmpszs have to be worked out before the session april 19th. >>> the fbi's violent crimes task force is trying to track down the man behind a series of armed attacks. take a look at the suspect who is being blamed for at least two armed robberies in the city. and several more in the counties. in one of the crimes, the suspect shot at a man's wallet. >>> and a deadly car crash in montgomery county. and the victim may have been caught up in an illegal drag race. take a look at this scene. police say two cars were racing when one cut in front of a nissan altima, being driven by 31-year-old melvis garcia. she lost control and flipped over. garcia died in a nearby hospital. police are looking for the drivers of the two vehicles involved. >>> new information on the investigation into the man who admitted stealing hundreds of historical documents, including some here in maryland. mary is here live now

pat warren explains the house has approved its own version of a state spending plan. >> the house ofates passes a revenue package that includes an income tax hike, fee increases, and a tobacco tax hike. >> there is no good news. there is no good news. and this budget for the citizens of maryland. there's only pain and protracted debt. >> the general assembly has fallen into a habit of taxing and spending. >> you know what we're doing? we're kicking our citizens when they're down. >> reporter: the minority of democrats in the house took a different view, considering that the greatest burden would fall on the affluent. >>> the house rejected a plan to tax online purchases and it has a different proposal for transferring teacher pensions to local jurisdictions. keep in mind, all of this is subject to change when the two sides meet. >>> the two versions would have to be reconciled by april 2nd, the constitutional deadline for budget approval. >>> let's check on the roads with kristy breslin. >> reporter: let's update you on the breaking news. chopper13 is over the scene. we have police a

reporting live, i'm pat warren. back to you on tv hill. >> early voting is under way in maryland, from 10:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. from now through thursday, the primary is a week away. >>> stay with wjz for complete coverage of campaign 2012. we'll continue to bring you the latest on air and online at wjz.com. >>> we have breaking news to tell you about right now. out of anne arundel county. sky eye chopper 13 over the scene of a stabbing. captain mike perry has more. mike? >> we're in, actually, northeastern anne arundel county. this occurred at berlin and hoffman, vic. firefighters and police called to the scene of berlin and hoffman, for an alleged stabbing. police were urging fire officials to get here rather quickly. apparently this victim was very critically injured. the medic unit just left the scene a few moments ago, followed by a police car. we believe it was heading towards shock trauma. now, we have police activity right here at berlin and hoffman. then another scene -- or at latest more police activity, ov

. >> i'm pat warren. >>> april 2nd the constitutional deadline for budget approval. >>> a summer like end to the workweek. the scene here as workers fix the cobblestone and sherwood gardens is a perfect day. the flowers are springing up early. it's been seasonably warm for weeks now. is this going to continue? or are changes coming our way? >> i didn't think this weather would last as many weeks as it has. but it has. there are changes for the weekend. still upper 70s to low 80s around the region. we did get in the low 80s and officially didn't get to the record. we got to 81 and the record is 82. the temperatures are running from two to 9 degrees above what we saw yesterday. and yesterday, we were 20 degrees above northerly. we have an area of low pressure approaching us from the west torrent and tomorrow. and on sunday. and it will be cooler and a good chance of scattered showers and thundershowers. and just good old rain here on sunday. we're tell below normal for the north. >>> talk about a cash grab. an armored vehicle spills big bucks on a maryland highway. it happened on 270 in

political reporter pat warren explains what they want. pat? >> reporter: that's right. state workers, carrying green signs and wearing green shirts are wearing signs here to protect their interest, as the general assembly weighs the differences between increased taxes and deeper cuts. [ applause ] >> reporter: it may be the most controversial administration agenda in years, with proposals some feel are so taxing they're organizing protests. while governor o'malley says maryland is recovering from the recession, residents held a funeral procession for the funeral dream, for those still caught in the foreclosure crisis. in annapolis last week, a crowd of realtors capped the government's plan. and lawmakers are considering an across-the-board state income tax hike. and while it's in not in the proposed budget, the state's proposed tax hike on gasoline is sillile -- still on the table, drawing more protests. >> there are possibilities of more cuts. cuts to higher education, public education, medicaid. if we can't find revenues, then these cuts are going to go in place. >> r

reporting from annapolis, i'm pat warren.k to you on tv hill. >>> some lawmakers question whether this is the right time to raise additional fees. since general assembly is already considering an income tax and gas tax increase. >>> if you're waiting for someone to get home from work, let's check on the roads with kristy breslin. hi, kristy. >> hi, everyone. still busy out there. on the jones falls expressway. in the northbound direction. we have an accident at cold spring lane. things are a bit tied up. over on the top side inner loop, we have delays that stretch there from park heights avenue to harford road. you can expect about 25 minutes to get through. on the west side inner loop, also slow there, from southwestern boulevard to security boulevard. and on the outer loop, on the west side, we also have brake lights that we're watching from 795 to baltimore national pike. 70 westbound, heavy in that direction, from 29 to marriottsville road. couple of new accidents out there. east joppa at ridgely road. dulaney valley at e

political reporter pat warren breaks down the preliminary proposal. >> reporter: the mayor is looking for budget cuts that will also allow a tax break for homeowners. >> reporter: the budget includes the first installment of a plan that would reduce taxes. >> our goal is to get baltimore growing again by over 10,000 families. and this budget is the first of several to come that will help us in achieving that goal. >> reporter: a proposal is sure to spark heated debate, as the city seeks to soak up a $48 million budget. >> it gives permnancy, reliability, and redictability. -- predictability. it allows the department to plan every day, whatever day of week it is, for those closures so they can respond more efficiently to calls. >> reporter: budget options include changes in employee benefits. consolidating 911 and 311 call centers and closing some rec centers. there are eight rec centers that the cities can't close. the mayor is also proposing push back to the plan to close fire companies. and this is a long process. so it am require final approval. >> the new budget takes effect july

reporting live from annapolis, i'm pat warren. wjz eyewitness news. >> we are gathering reaction to this. we'll have more at 11:00. >>> new fallout tonight for maryland senator ulysses currie. after he is rebuked. according to our media partner, senate president mike miller says curry is no longer serving on the rules or executive commission committee. a jury found currie not guilty. but he was censured by fellow state senators because he did not disclose income he made for his work. >>> a mysterious change in leadership for a maryland university. tonight, wjz continues to dig into why the president of umuc was abruptly removed without explanation. wjz stays on the story. derek valcourt is live, looking for answers. derek? >> reporter: well, even though no one will say why the umbc president has been placed on leave, wjz has learned that she is still collecting a paycheck. >> welcome to the university of maryland, university college. >> reporter: susan aldridge is considered a leader. since 2006, she has been president of umuc, he

political reporter pat warren is there and explains what they want. pat? >> hi, kai. hello, everybody. state workers are rallying at lawyers mall tonight, to protect their interest as the general assembly weighs new taxes against deeper cuts. >> reporter: it may be the most controversial administration agenda in years, with a proposal some feel are so taxing, they're organizing protests. while governor o'malley says maryland is recovering from the recession, residents in baltimore last month, held a funeral procession for the american dream. with those still caught in the foreclosure crisis. >>> in annapolis, a crowd protested the interest deductions. and lawmakers are considering an across-the-board state income tax hike. and while not in the budget, the government proposes sales tax is still on the table, drawing fire from consumers around the state. >> at the same time, there's a strong possibility of more cults. and we've -- cuts. and we've got an alternative of cuts to higher education, public education, medicaid. if we can't find revenues, then these cuts are go

political reporter pat warren is at the state house, awaiting the governor's signature on that bill.that's right. we are minutes away from maryland history. as you can see, the first area is packed. you can

i'm pat warren. back to you on tv hill. >> if the bill passes, all high- ranking government officials would have their disclosures on the internet by 2015. >>> right now, repair crews are on the scene of a major water main break. the 12-inch main broke in lutherville, causing significant damage on the road. it's not clear how many people have lost water at this time. but the road is closed until repairs are finished. >>> the ravens make their biggest move of the off season. so far, making a key decision about a cornerstone of the franchise. and stan saunders joins us now with details. >> although baltimore ravens, two-time running back ray rice, says he prefers a deal. he is content with his new designation as the team's franchise player. this means several things. first off, rice, would earn in '012. secondly, the move allows the ravens' front office to buy much-needed time. in order to negotiate a lengthle deal with their runner. ran for a career best 1364 yards and led the purple birds with 76 cat

i'm pat warren.n out for the presidential primary. >>> check in for more on these stories and all the day's breaking news. eyewitness news at 5:00 starts now. >>> collapsed in class. a medical emergency on a high school running track. >> the investigation into a student's sudden death. >> hi, everybody. i'm mary bubala. >> i'm kai jackson. here's what people are talking about. >> rushed from school to the hospital. students are in shock after their 17-year-old classmate falls over during gym class. and then they find out she later dies. wjz is live at the school in prince george's county. mike hellgren has more on exactly what happened and the trivia tonight to the victim. mike? >> reporter: and mary, she had so much promise, she was a straight a student and getting ready to go to college in the baltimore area in the fall. we know of no preexisting health conditions that led to her collapse on the track here behind me. >> reporter: heartbroken classmates released pink balloons on the tracks at sarots

wjz and political report pat war reason warren are live. >> reporter: good afternoon, the mayor is looking for a budget with enough cuts to allow her to give homeowners a break. the it includes the first stallment of a plan to reduce homeowner property taxes by 20 cents over the next eight years. >> our goal is to get baltimore growing again by 10,000 families over the next 10 years and this budget is the first of several to come that will help us in achieving that goal. >> a proposal to close three fire companies is sure to spark debate as the city seeks to close a budget deficit. >> it gives performancey and reliability, predictability and allows the department to plan every day, you know, what every day of the week it is for those closures so they can respond more efficiently to calls. >> budget options include changes in employee benefits, consolidating 911 and 311 call centers and closing rec centers. >> the mayor is receiving push back but this is a long process that will require hearings and a final approval by city council. back to you, don. >> thank you very much pat. more today a

pat them on the back. this thing about them cleaning up on the scene, that's something that's never done. >> paramedics were on the scene. >> warren murder victim? >> correct, that's evidence, stephanie, you don't clean that up at the scene that makes absolutely no law enforcement sense and i don't think any law enforcement academy or training facility in any state trains that, that you clean up the scene. >> you're forget one thing you're forgetting one thing, no one ever thought this would turn into a national story. >> well, that's true. >> and that's the saddest part of it, john, you know, that this apparently's no big deal, you know. >> in florida. >> elma in virginia, you're on "the stephanie miller show," hey, elma. >> hi, this is regarding trayvon. i wanted to know, did they ever release information about the distance trayvon was from the shooter? >> well, no, i mean, but elma this is why -- they didn't do a proper investigation, this is what you're supposed to do, ballistics, splatter wounds, trajectories. >> the prosecutor's office can't they tell? >> he was a joedo for three days, they knew his address but they left him