and the general-- you know, pat weaver and-- they're-- "who is this crazy kid? 30 years ago. [ laughter ] what happened?" and-and so, liebman said, "mel, please." and i said, "he's -- he's embarrassed. the spirit of st. louis, down the borg. landed. lyndie." so they threw me out. they took all. they threw me out. [ laughter ] two years later, i'm walking in the top floor of the rca building, and general sarnoff was walking with another guy, with vests, and-and then-- chains and everything. and they're walking and talking. and he nods to me, i nod to him. we walk-- the end of the corridor, he turns-- i stop. i turn around. he turns around. i-- and i see him do-- "lyndie london! [ laughter ] >> he was in the -- he did the whole-- [ chuckling ] he was explaining me. >> he's a grand old man. >> he never forgot, you know. >> how would you forget that? >> yeah. >> lyndie. >> nice man like that, and you on the desk. >> yeah, h-- well, what about the person in the street, when a straw hat came by? [ laughter ] >> know what i mean? walking by. >> may i ask you what this