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governor pataki, good to see you.hat is obviously on the front page of all the new york papers this morning. do you think we did a good job? >> the police did a great job. but we were very, very lucky. here's a guy who actually had a truck full of bombs, explosives, drives to times square, i guess nights them, the truck is smoking. thank god we had alert citizens who went to the police. thank good the nypd and fire department are the best in the word and they reacted the way they did. >> you think we should have done better? >> i understand you can't stop everything in it's tracks but we have to do far number. i think a number of the policies of this administration just weaken our efforts to protect ourselves from terror. >> i don't understand what you're saying. >> let me tell you one thing, we were lucky -- we were lucky in times square. >> you i think they should have stopped the van in lincoln tunnel in. >> no. we were lucky in times square, unlucky with the christmas day plane. we were unlucky in ft. hood. khalid

here's former new york governor, george pataki on msnbc.listen. >> this is another case where this administration, we're responding after something is attempted. we saw it with the christmas day airplane bomber. we saw it in times square. we were lucky in both cases. and then we saw it in fort hood where we were not so lucky and 13 of our great young heroes put their lives on the line to defend us, were murdered. i think this administration just has got to change its approach. >> that's what happens to an office-holder when he runs out of staff and has to think up this stuff on his own. we have joining us now, a man who needs no staff to help him, doctor, governor, a medical doctor and a cnbc contributor. dr. dean, it seems to me that the republicans are so desperate. we saw an example of michael brown saying the president was slowing down his efforts in the gulf of mexico so he could attack the coal industry. that is a bank shot even i can't follow. >> well, you know, first of all, the question is why is michael brown giving his track reco

it's rud includes nonsense, and sub like george pataki shouldn't be talking like that. >> i've alwaysot of respect for him, but that performance -- >> that's the influence of the tea party and the republican party. people feel like they have to say such outside lan dish things. and it doesn't serve the country well. >> don't you think that beck is pulling even people that are sort of -- pretty far right, but not crazy like owe riley, and sean hannity. i think beck is pulling them all further over and then pulling the republican party with them. it's like grash ham's law, bad money turns good money out of circulation. they're driving good ideas out of circulation by going so far right, that party. >> this is why michael steel made an enormous mistake early in his term as chairman of the republican party when he backed down to rush limbaugh and began to cow to you him. you've got to stand up what you believe in. you may not always believe what the rest of the american people believe, but you've got to stand your ground. this stuff is not only going to hurt hurt the country, it's going t