he found george pataki and run him against cuomo on the death penalty.s give something on the death penalty, say he was in the favor of death penalty in the case of koch killers. it was a pure live academic point. new york had not executed anyone in 31 years and after the pro-death penalty unknown george pataki beat the great mario cuomo and became governor, new york state still never executed anyone. but it wasn't an academic point to mario cuomo, it was a moral principle. changing his opinion on the death penalty in any way was the thing mario cuomo would not do, could not do to win an election. as george pataki overtook mario cuomo in the poll, the pressure to say something new about the death penalty became intense on the governor. he was fighting for his political life. veteran new york political reporter gabe pressman at a cuomo campaign stop asked the governor if he would rather actually lose than change his mind on the death penalty. >> my position has always been the same. the death penalty is wrong. the death penalty degrade. the death penalty

governor pataki good to have you. is a falling apart? >> is anybody surprised?bod. ew the horrible horri provisions but now we find us something new that ist is worse. this gerri: one of those things o that we found out is the tax and health insurers pai 101 billion that will be passed on to us. >> exactly.$101 b it will raise our health care cost. tha gerri: $72 per family over tenures. i bet it would reduce our cost? >> i never thought that. obama looked into the camera and said it will reduce cost and no one is happy nobody has to change. tens of millions are being forced to change. is a horrible lot. it should be completely repealed should redefine full time worker. >> they are going to cut people's work, right now you figure 40 hours a workweek, under obamacare it is 30, if you have anyone working for you 30 hours a week, you have to give them comprehensiveealth care that government approves, people are cutti the workweek back to 28. gerri: is that bad news. >> and small businesses, if you are under 50, you are exempt. but if you have 50, then all of a sudden i

supporters of president say they don't want to be a part of it awaying in new york governor george pataki. is it falling apart? >> is anybody surprised? this is a horrible law when it was passed. we knew a lot of horrible provisions, but every day we find out something new that is worse. gerri: one thing we found out this week, that this tax on health insurers, may $10 $101 billion that will get passed on to us. >> of course,. gerri: you know, i thought that obamacare was going to reduce our cost. >> i never thought that, they said that, i don't blame you, president obama looked right in the camera and said, if it is going to reduce cost, he also said, you don't have to change your insurance, tens of millions of people have to change it, in is a horrible law, this should be repealed and replaced with go pro visions. gerri: we have a lot of ceos complaining, duck and brand saying maybe we should redefine full time worker. >> they are going to cut people's work, right now you figure 40 hours a workweek, under obamacare it is 30, if you have anyone working for you 30 hours a week, you have t

industry, environmental community, bes, we have been working on this, my colleague was former governor pataki new york, saying, how do you actual doe this. what policy changes do you need? we're not talking about a whole lot of additional federal resources, maybe a race to the top, but how do you make sure it say l quality. if a state wants to do this. david: i tell you one thing, you are not doing it with windmills, they are not the answer. it is something that is really working exponentially, the president by the way has to decide -- >> how about we look at fact whatever source, whether windmill or natural gas oil or nuclear. let's look at not generion slips but how we then use that source, in a more -- >> right, right, let me -- >> per unit. david: senator, the sierra club, a lot of other organization sent a letter to president challenges him on the question of fracking, saying you have to choose between senator warner, a democrat who has been with you all the way and us pause we're against fracking, we're against expanding in natural gas, who do you think that president will choose, you o

. >> i remember pataki in new york moved to the center. like people who move to the center in general elections. it's the whackos who move so far right that they're incredible when they come to the general. of course they don't have general elections in south carolina. that is a problem. not the ones that are close. thank you. steve, thank you much. steve. thank you, peter beinart. >>> coming up, the fight over the massive automatic job-killing spending cuts set to take place this week. the fifth fiscal showdown between congress and president obama just since 2011. now it's true gridlock, and it could be taking the country down economically, and that's what i fear. we have two former members of congress, a democrat and a republican, coming here. i want to know what they'd do if they were president in one case, house speaker in another. we have to figure out a way to work together in this country because split government looks like it's here to say for a while. >>> another sign of how far this country has come on marriage equality. good new

he started by working for new york governor the tacky and in the years since -- governor pataki. he has worked at the national level as well. i would welcome a to them and thank them for their time and with that, i will go to marlin marshall, recently of barack obama's reelection campaign, for opening comments that thank you for coming and thank you for inviting me today. >> i'm originally from st. louis, missouri by way of kansas. i apologize in advance. i will not take eight minutes because i cannot talk about myself for eight minutes. i will be brief. i got involved in politics at the university of kansas and that inspired me into this profession because i believe you can make change. it was really 2002 when i got involved in my first race in kansas and there i learned to make a difference by organizing communities across the country and that is why i started this business. this past cycle was awesome. from my standpoint but i think one of the things i would like to discuss today with you all as we continue this is what worked and what did not work. there is money in politics

president clinton, governor cuomo, pataki, spitzer, schumer, gillibrand, city and state, federal and irrational officials and dignitaries, friends, family, and fellow new yorkers, everyone is here today. the thing there is no doubt that it is looking down on all of us assembled here be amended think it is fitting that he picked this place just a few blocks from a certain east river span. before last year's state of the city speech if you remember we ran a video and included a shot of ed standing at the entrance ramp yelling to all the cars approached, look into muybridge, will look into muybridge. needless to say it brought down the house. but most people don't know is after the cameras stopped rolling end stayed out there in the freezing cold for another 20 minutes yelling welcome to muybridge. he loved it, and we loved him. now mayor, i think, as ever embody the spirit of new york city like he did commander don't think anyone ever will. toughens loud, brash and irreverent, full of humor. he was our cities quintessential mayor. more than anyone else, he knew the new york was more th

. >> george pataki and i have been talking about writing a piece together about just this, a need ford a draft in which there would be a choice for young americans about where they would serve, whether it would be to help infrastructure in the military, but there must be a hinge of our history where he have gone in a different direction, is the abolition of the draft. and we've been in different countries since. any of us who have been to basic training knows what a -- in retrospect, what a great experience that is in terms of being with all kinds of other americans. it would revolutionize how we approach our problems and unite our country in terms of service and common purpose. >> charlie, i think what carl says is absolutely right. i love your idea, but let's make it a choice. when you're 18 years of age, you either go into the peace corps, vista, or the military. serve your country. everyone does it before they go to college, we'd have more mature college kids and everyone in this country would have a sense of what it is to be an american, to serve the country. >> we've also got a