starting with you, governor pata pataki. card carrying member of the establishment. >> i don't know about establishment -- >> i hear you. you were a guy three years ago, i think you saw the tea party movement, you said, okay, these people have something, but it does seem to me that there is this push/pull here between governing and the tea party movement. look at the lamar -- what did you think of the op-ed? >> i liked the statement very much about conservatives have to show we can govern. that's something that too often we have failed to do. let me just back up a little. i think the tea party was an honest manifestation of a disgust with the government that had grown too large and out of control. the classic example was ramming through obama care. a terrible law that no one read. in 2010, you saw the grassroots act adviviadvicism across this y in every district from people who said, government's out of control. they took back the house. now there is what i would call a healthy tension. where those who have started off as ag

. >> former new york governor george pataki took a shot at chicago's police department as he defendedof the new york city police department. yesterday, a federal judge ruled that policy as unconstitutional. today, pataki appeared on an msnbc show and said the policy protected minorities unlike the way chicago police protect minorities here. >> why don't they look at chicago where the civil rights of young african americans are not only being taken away, but they are being murdered in record numbers in the south side of chicago. the policing of their leaves something to be desired. >> chicago police superintendent garry mccarthy responded to pataki's remarks, saying the crime rate is down here, and that his officers respect the rights of suspects. mccarthy emphasized there are too many guns on the streets of chicago and that new york has had stricter penalties possession of illegal firearms. we want to hear from you... do you think chicago should follow new york and adopt a "stop and frisk" policy? text yes or no to 97-999 or vote online at wgntv.com/poll we'll have results after tom s

george pataki a former governor of the great state of new york. these are called terry stops. in a terry stop, a police officer needs to be operating on more than a hunch. the way new york city was carrying out stop and frisk the judge said resulted in an indirect form of racial profiling. >> yeah, i totally disagree with the judge, michael. you're probably not surprised by that. i think what we have seen is a dramatic reduction in violent crime in the city. there will be at least 2,000 fewer murderers this year than there were about ten years ago in one year. the vast majority of those victims are minorities. and their lives are being saved because we have a police department and a mayor who are being proactive in going after illegal guns, illegal activity on the street in a way that i believe and i hope the mayor will appeal and is ultimately determined to be constitutional. >> sherrilynn, respond to that. and also tell me how will this be received in the minority community, where the governor points out folks are most disproportionately affected by crime. >> well, let's beg

governor pataki was running things but then he left in 2006 and that opened up some room for the mayor to get involved and he became the chairman of the foundation and also helps bring the port authority and the developer together to start making compromises. i talked to a lot of people who thought without bloomberg the battles would still be going on, that he made -- helped some other people make key compromises and key decisions but i talked to just as many people who continue to be furious with the kind of agenda that they saw the mayor's office having. chris ward who took over the port authority later on in 2008. right around 2010 is when things started. >> host: that is nine years after the attack. why a nine year attrition in your book as to actually implement the plan? >> guest: i mean i think that is the question. part of it was the debate. sometimes there were family groups have protested. there was a debate over the museum that was supposed to be a ground zero called the international freedom center that the lower manhattan development corp. plant and a small group of familie

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cochaired by former governors tom vilsack and george pataki. his essays have been published in foreign affairs, foreign policy, nature, scientific american, among others. his op-eds have appeared in new york times, washington post be, "wall street journal," financial times and his book is reviewed in this week's "economist." he served as technical consultant to the drama "24." we could probably spend an hour asking questions about that, actually. he holds a bs in mathematical physics, an ma in physics and and a ph.d. in war studies. so let's not hold him against him that he currently lives in new york city. please join me in offering a very warm welcome to our distinguished speaker, michael levi. [applause] >> thank you for the very kind introduction. it's fantastic to see, fantastic to see such a big crowd here. apparently, there are some folks in houston who are interested in energy. [laughter] i was telling someone earlier, i had difficulty choosing exactly what to wear today. i picked up some interesting items of clothing while i was writin

said before, you had larry silverstein, the developer who won the lease to the office space, you had pataki who was running the port authority, and they really believed in the importance of the commercial space that was destroyed. they wanted to make sure that lower manhattan remained an international financial hub. and they believed that in order for it to remain that reputation, they had to rebuild all of this commercial space. >> the controversy over the rebuilding on the site of the world trade center. elizabeth greenspan on the battle for ground zero, sunday night at 9 on "after words," part of booktv this weekend on c-span2. >> now, author charles murray discusses his book "coming apart: the state of white america 1968-2010." he spoke a few weeks ago at the annual western conservative summit. hosted by the colorado christian university centennial institute. from denver, this is a little less than a half hour. ♪ ♪ >> thanks very much. i can't tell you how depressing it is to be introduced, to be told preceding the introduction that the preceding speaker not only got a standing ovation,

said before, you had larry silverstein, the developer who won the lease to the office space, you had patakiho was running the port authority, and they really believed in the importance of the commercial space that was destroyed. they wanted to make sure that lower manhattan remained an international financial hub, and they believed that in order for it to remain that reputation, they had to rebuild all of this commercial space. >> the controversy over the rebuilding on the site of the world trade center. elizabeth greenspan on "the battle for ground zero" sunday night at 9 on "after words." part of booktv this weekend on c-span2. >> house financial services committee chairman jeb hensarling outlined the path act, legislation that would change housing finance by eliminating fannie mae and freddie mac. from the george w. bush presidential center in dallas, this is 40 minutes. [applause] >> thank you, mr. secretary, for the kind introduction. i don't know if you can see me, this is a rather large podium. [laughter] it reminds me of what i frequently tell my washington colleagues, everything's

said before, you had larry silverstein, the developer who won the lease to the office space, you had pataki who was running the port authority, and they really believed in the importance of the commercial space that was destroyed. they wanted to make sure that lower manhattan remained an international financial hub, and they believed that in order for it to remain that reputation, they had to rebuild all of this commercial space. >> the controversy over the rebuilding on the site of the world trade center. elizabeth greenspan on "the battle for ground zero" sunday night at 9 on afterwords, part of booktv this weekend on c-span2. >> some news overseas, according to the associated press officials say egyptian court has ordered the release of ex-president hosni mubarak who has been imprisoned on charges of corruption. mr. mubarak, who is 85, has been held since april 2011 and is also facing a retrial on charges of come prisonty in the killing of protesters during the 2011 uprising. the white house yesterday announced that president barack obama will convene his national security council and ca